News Indians Are Worse Off Under Modi
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Lol. Tell that to Ms Teesta Setalvad wife of Javed Anand .
Thanks for reminding us .About as important as what I ate three mornings ago for breakfast.Nope... My way of life is Hinduism. Hindutwa may be a way of life for RSS...
I never vouched for socialism. India is a mixed economy, somewhere in between capitalism and socialism. It is always better to avoid the extremes.
I don't need socialism for myself. I just want Modi to fullfill his promise of "sab ka saath sab ka Vikas"
Instead of mining and exporting all the minerals, and iron ore. I want India to export steel or more value added goods.
India considering cut in iron ore export tax: sources
Keep the minerals and resources for future generations.
Anatomy of a loot
I just want corporates to earn money through innovation and brand building. But all corporates are doing is ripping off India, by not paying interest for their loans(NPA). I want corporates to be more patriotic and rip off other countries and invest in India for Indians.
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I don't hate RSS, they are just weird and ridiculous. More like that Manavantaratruti
Coke has a rival: RSS's cow urine cola - Indian Express
numbers on absolute terms without comparison mean nothing. here - let me put them in perspective of NDA, UPA and BJP (now)
Fiscal deficit:
2004:4.57%
2013: 5.1%
2017: 3.5%
India's current account deficit due to Congress:
2004: (+) $7.36 billion (surplus).
2013: (-) $80 billion.
2017: (-) $14.3 billion
India's April-Nov fiscal deficit hits 112 per cent of full-year target
Rupee:
1998-2004: Variation: Rs. 39 to 49 per $.
2004-13: Variation: Rs. 39 to 68 per $.
2013-2017: Variation: Rs. 68 to 64 per $.
HDI:
2004: India was ranked 123rd globally on the human development index (HDI) in 2004, with a score of 0.453.
2013: India has slipped 13 places to 136th globally on the HDI in 2013 with a score of 0.554.
2017: 1 India is ranked 131 out of 188 countries in a list that is topped by Norway.
source:
Chidambaram and Modi: Close encounters with facts
Conclusion: UPA scores above NDA on one of the 10 parameters (GDP growth), is level on one other parameter (fiscal deficit) while NDA does better than UPA on the remaining eight parameters.
The next time Finance Minister P. Chidambaram wishes to stage an encounter with facts, he would do well to be aware of those facts.
Sources: Economic Survey of India, UNDP, IMF, Planning Commission of India.
Perchance , you may have volunteered for it and told them the difference . We are most grateful for it . Thanks for enlightening us with your world view.
You need Socialism, that is why you support words socialist in constitution .Socialists are freeloaders/parasites who want a share of a man who worked hard for it.
If Modi was doing a bad job of 'sab ka saath sabka vikas' wouldnt he be routed in elections .
The fact he won 19 states with total majority speaks volumes of how people voted for him after they got the benefits.
You did not build a Industrial base for past 60 years, went Bankrupt with populist socialism schemes and you suddenly dream of exporting high grade steel and value added goods?
This is like West Bengal wanting to export Ferraris made in West Bengal.
In globalized world there is no such concept of keeping minerals and resources intact for yourself, if you wont sell it others will.
The minerals keep changing hands,
You want to keep those resources, stay poor and dont compete in market economy.
This is a concept Most Communists dont get it.
They want the cake and eat it too.
excellent point
except in our case, they dont want anyone to make the cake and then blame that they dint get to eat the cake.
If your Modi has the guts, face 2019 elections without the ram mandir issue, and keep the nation riot free till 2019. eg Kasganj riots
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Ram Mandir is sub judice, BJP says it will abide by the court verdict.
NO ONE can keep India riot free. its a nation of 1.3 billion. riots erupted in france, UK, USA etc. so please, lets set realistic goals.
here is the "economic development" agenda that BJP ran the elections in 2013.
forget ram mandir, forget riots. if you had to check only economic development, who will you vote? here are the numbers
Fiscal deficit:
2004:4.57%
2013: 5.1%
2017: 3.5%
India's current account deficit due to Congress:
2004: (+) $7.36 billion (surplus).
2013: (-) $80 billion.
2017: (-) $14.3 billion
India's April-Nov fiscal deficit hits 112 per cent of full-year target
Rupee:
1998-2004: Variation: Rs. 39 to 49 per $.
2004-13: Variation: Rs. 39 to 68 per $.
2013-2017: Variation: Rs. 68 to 64 per $.
HDI:
2004: India was ranked 123rd globally on the human development index (HDI) in 2004, with a score of 0.453.
2013: India has slipped 13 places to 136th globally on the HDI in 2013 with a score of 0.554.
2017: 1 India is ranked 131 out of 188 countries in a list that is topped by Norway.
source:
Chidambaram and Modi: Close encounters with facts
Conclusion: UPA scores above NDA on one of the 10 parameters (GDP growth), is level on one other parameter (fiscal deficit) while NDA does better than UPA on the remaining eight parameters.
The next time Finance Minister P. Chidambaram wishes to stage an encounter with facts, he would do well to be aware of those facts.
Sources: Economic Survey of India, UNDP, IMF, Planning Commission of India.
@nair @Aashish @Levina @WhyCry @Ironhide
I hope the above facts should make it very clear as to whose governance was better? thought my researched numbers can help some people see the light.
Mandir wahin banega, your comrades and jihadis won't be able to stop it. Ram Mandir is a sensitive issue for millions of Indians and it is good to see someone standing for it. It is not Modi's problem that all other political parties have backstabbed Hindus in the process of the extremist appeasement.
The real SC judgement is @bonobashi @nair @BlackOpsIndia @Ashwin
@Levina @WhyCry @Ironhide
The 1995 judgment defined Hindutva or Hinduism as a "way of life" and nothing to do with "narrow fundamentalist Hindu religious bigotry".
SC declines to go into Hindutva verdict
You have to decide which is "narrow fundamentalist Hindu religious bigotry". Hindutwa or Hinduism ? It is a question or ideological divide?
Hindutwa and Hinduism are nor synonyms... there is a fundamental ideological difference... there is attempt to blur this line.
Hindutwa is way of life for RSS-VHP mentality while I chose to take my own path my path is Hinduism. My guidance is my own reason, I don't need guidance of RSS.
This is the good test to determine if you follow Hindutwa or Hinduism
Hindutwa: If this rally is a Tiranga rally with Bhagwa flags. This is deen dayal upadhyay.
Hinduism: If this rally is a bhagwa rally with Tiranga. This is holy Constitution, Ambedhkar.
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For RSS there are 3 enemies, according to Guru Gowalkar
1. Muslims - secularism
2. Chritians - secularism
3. Communists - socialism
emerging >>> 4. Ambedkarite - socialism
Hindutwa mentality is scared of Muslims, Christians and communists. Hindutwa mindset is competing with these 3 ideologies for me.
Why should I cross over from Hinduism to Hindutwa, Ram Mandir ? Love Jihad ? ISIS ? Tipu sultan ? Aurangazeb ? Loudspeaker on Minarets ? Kasarganj riots ? Chandan Gupta ? Phobia of assertion of downtrodden communities ? Appeasement politics ?
Basically Hindutwa mentality is testing us. Beef is a test ... Tiranga+Bhagwa rally is a test. Hindutwa vs Hinduism is a matter of perception, based on ideological background.
@BlackOpsIndia unless you identify this ideology and people infected with this Hindutwa mindset. You will never be able to deal with it and save your Kasganj ... else it will become like Gujarat-Godhra... you will have fight this ideology... Yogi Adityanath is after religiously polarized for votes in Yadav belt...
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I'm not a comrade or a Jihadi. I'm a Hindu and don't believe in Hindutwa.
I don't want Ram Mandir, and I don't want to stop it.
Ram Mandir is immaterial to me, for me unity of my nation and constitution is more important. This is what I will tell my Muslim friends, sacrifice Babri Masjid desire.
You see, No one is perfect
I'm not a comrade or a Jihadi. I'm a Hindu and don't believe in Hindutwa.
I don't want Ram Mandir, and I don't want to stop it.
So you know the government is not doing something, just dont know what it is, but feel strongly about it, but dont want to admit it. Got it.
I am not taking sides nor will take as i have to moderate this thread so cant participate..
But still want to point one thing -
As a country, we need to look beyond ideologies that are thrown to us like dust in air syndrome. wherever you go, dusty environment exists.. If you are inside a protected atmosphere aka Air Conditioner you wont get to face dusty environment. If you use micro nets also, some day they will get either clogged or finer dust particles will still seep through.. Similarly for AC also this problem will arise..
But if water is adequate over the dusty lands, if you have trees planted, there are ways and means to stop the dust emerging and running haywire with winds..
Ideologies are these dusts, wind is what all individuals are atm... with your thinkings, ideologies fly all over.. some folks have nets and AC and buffer themselves but soon it will clog your system and it has to be cleaned .(ACs/Nets) so again you will be temporarily exposed to these ideologies..
What is missing is water and tree plants. A firm understanding of relevance and efficacy of ideologies for present citizens for today and tomorrow..
The country needs not just a fundamental social upliftment but also some form of capitalism.. without wealth creation, there cannot be wealth distribution means to uplift the needy out of it. That balance is of course needed at all times. Unfortunately, our ideological foray into various political parties propaganda is basically showing some extreme sets not the whole universal sets.
I also take this opportunity to say fundamental support is only to push certain folks out of their needy status to stable status.. once you move over such extra benefits should be curtailed and moved to some other population. it's not a vote bank appeasement which most political parties and ideologies preach as of today. The definition of these needs to be transparent and execution to be flawless.
The tree and water in our case is missing.. And that is not good for our country overall. Irrespective of any ideology or leaders, the focus on tree and water is almost absent. The claims may be there but reality is just like the dry soil which finally turns into dust..
PS- i wont be able to participate .. as i may be asked to moderate this thread.. so pls dont mind.. this is an interesting topic.. sad to see many fellow countrymen divided so much that we seem to perhaps missing the big picture.. i like the different views in this thread.. but its also sad how dangerous situation may become in near future.. we need to know the line.. red line we must not cross..for our country's well being
@nair - tagging you just in case i forget and go haywire..
But still want to point one thing -
As a country, we need to look beyond ideologies that are thrown to us like dust in air syndrome. wherever you go, dusty environment exists.. If you are inside a protected atmosphere aka Air Conditioner you wont get to face dusty environment. If you use micro nets also, some day they will get either clogged or finer dust particles will still seep through.. Similarly for AC also this problem will arise..
But if water is adequate over the dusty lands, if you have trees planted, there are ways and means to stop the dust emerging and running haywire with winds..
Ideologies are these dusts, wind is what all individuals are atm... with your thinkings, ideologies fly all over.. some folks have nets and AC and buffer themselves but soon it will clog your system and it has to be cleaned .(ACs/Nets) so again you will be temporarily exposed to these ideologies..
What is missing is water and tree plants. A firm understanding of relevance and efficacy of ideologies for present citizens for today and tomorrow..
The country needs not just a fundamental social upliftment but also some form of capitalism.. without wealth creation, there cannot be wealth distribution means to uplift the needy out of it. That balance is of course needed at all times. Unfortunately, our ideological foray into various political parties propaganda is basically showing some extreme sets not the whole universal sets.
I also take this opportunity to say fundamental support is only to push certain folks out of their needy status to stable status.. once you move over such extra benefits should be curtailed and moved to some other population. it's not a vote bank appeasement which most political parties and ideologies preach as of today. The definition of these needs to be transparent and execution to be flawless.
The tree and water in our case is missing.. And that is not good for our country overall. Irrespective of any ideology or leaders, the focus on tree and water is almost absent. The claims may be there but reality is just like the dry soil which finally turns into dust..
PS- i wont be able to participate .. as i may be asked to moderate this thread.. so pls dont mind.. this is an interesting topic.. sad to see many fellow countrymen divided so much that we seem to perhaps missing the big picture.. i like the different views in this thread.. but its also sad how dangerous situation may become in near future.. we need to know the line.. red line we must not cross..for our country's well being
@nair - tagging you just in case i forget and go haywire..
Even Majority Hindutwa is not perfect... There are many idiots who can't even understand Darwin's evolution and Newton's physics.
This is why the intellectuals got spooked, and started "award wapasi".
@Bharath Bro
Hindutwa - (beef lynching + class divide + regional divide + language divide + creed divide + caste divide + beef lynching + religious fanaticism etc) + progressive attitude = Hinduism
Just dig your conscience and sincerely remove all the negatives from Hindutwa and , then Hindutwa = Hinduism
I understand RSS now, their intention is noble... they just need to be a bit more mordern and progressive...
so that the progressives and intellectuals don't get spooked by them...
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