Indo-France Aero Engine Co-Development Program
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As far as I know, M88 family can reach 10.5tons in the 90's (M88-4). With some improvements in materials maybe some more thrust now.
But M88-4 was only a paper project. And it is now a "old" core family.
With the Turenne 1 and Turenne 2 R&D efforts, a higher temperature can be reach.
I think a new core is on the agenda. Maybe a higher thrust range for SCAF and a lower one for India ?
CAPEX to be spent on imports is limited to 32% right now. Which is slated to be reduced further.
In any case they(everyone) would lose the cash cow.
Better to get involved and take advantage of the potential market.
Finally, some positive action from GOI, Hope the project will be signed and financed as per plan.
Apparently, GoI prefers France not only for the deal offered ( which incidentally RR also matched) or the fact that they're our strategic partner or that we'd be buying / already bought Rafales from them but because of our history with France.
In these uncertain times, France with it's track record of Independent strategic & foreign policy apart from Russia gained instead of UK which isn't seen to have much independence in this domain.
The history of post Pokhran sanctions still weigh heavily on the minds of our strategic planners where UK ceased all co operation in defense & other strategic sectors following the lead of the US.
France like UK & other nations are moving in the direction of electric propulsion as well as Variable Engine Cycle which in due course would render fixed speed Gas Turbine engines obsolete. Smart decision from SAFRAN / France. In our case it's bhagte bhoot ki langot sahi.
It's a jet that's not in competition with France.
AMCA may be ahead of the Rafale, but it would be viable for export long after Rafale production lines have closed. And FCAS will be a step up over the AMCA, so it's not in the same generation.
And this is not counting the primary factor, helping India become independent that will allow it to become another pole for an authentic multipolar world, so this way France also gets a supporter of equal standing to the US and China that could prevent unnecessary military complications across the world.
A secondary reason is France was much more viable than the UK, and less inclined to use it for blackmail, naturally because we will also be producing Rafales of our own by then. The follow-on option would be a very enticing bait.
The main reason is because it's 2022!!!
The main reason is because it's 2022!!!
Something is better than nothing.thank you.
(except last sentence i don’t understand)
India, UK set to finalise defence tech exchange arrangement
In response to a written question in the House of Commons, UK Minister for Defence Procurement Jeremy Quin confirmed that a Letter of Arrangement between the defence research agencies on both sides is in the process of being agreed.
Why likely €1 bn French deal is a reminder of India’s failure to build indigenous jet engine
Despite successes in the space and missile programme, India’s hopes of powering fighters with a homemade engine haven’t succeeded.
theprint.in
Manish K Jha: Talks are on with French entity Safran for the aeroengine. Do we get the full matrix of technology which will enable India to further design, develop and manufacture aeroengine?
Defence Secretary: So, there is no agreement which has been concluded with anyone so far that I am aware of. Such discussions are going on but nothing has been concluded.
Defence Secretary: So, there is no agreement which has been concluded with anyone so far that I am aware of. Such discussions are going on but nothing has been concluded.
“The Royal Navy and British industry now stand ready to co-produce an indigenous Electric Propulsion capability in support of the Indian Navy. The UK is also working with India on strategic collaboration for Modern Fighter Aircraft and Jet Engine ...
Jeremy Quin: Looking to co-create defence tech with India: UK Minister Jeremy Quin - The Economic Times
“The Royal Navy and British industry now stand ready to co-produce an indigenous Electric Propulsion capability in support of the Indian Navy. The UK is also working with India on strategic collaboration for Modern Fighter Aircraft and Jet Engine Advanced Core Technology, and co-production of...
French aircraft engine maker SAFRAN to set up India unit
Why do all reports keep mentioning "Safran-HAL Aircraft Engines" as a new entity? It exists from 2005 producing helicopter engines.
India
Safran has been present in India for more than 65 years and today has 750 employees in eight companies and a training center, all working in production, design or services in the aeronautics and defense industries.
If its anything to do with new engine development, DRDO official along with our UK HC visited Roll Royce Bristol facilities .
India is looking not only for 100 per transfer of technology for making aircraft engines to power its indigenous twin engine fighter but also designing and development of next generation high powered military and civilian engines for future fighter and transport platforms. Already Tata group has tied up with Airbus to manufacture C295 tactical transport aircraft in Vadodara in Gujarat. This line is going to be expanded into other civilian and military aircraft manufacturing in a joint venture with France.
www.hindustantimes.com
Keep in mind that the reporter is unreliable.
India-France to join hands in fighter and submarine design and manufacturing
The 36th India-France dialogue will record a forward movement today with French President Emmanuel Macron committed to support Modi’s India for developing advanced military industrial complex.
Keep in mind that the reporter is unreliable.