Infantry Combat Vehicles of Indian Army

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kharabela said:
His opinion


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The US led armour push in Iraq from Kuwait is a perfect case study.

Fighter jets flying SEAD/DEAD missions first. Followed by Cobra helicopter gunships scouting. Then gunship & SF landing in rear.

Then artillery fire from the rear. And armour advance comprising of Tanks and Bradley's firing lots of TOW ATGMs.

Combined arms. Something which we are trying to emulate today, the superpower has actually done it.

Documentaries are there, really good description. I don't currently have the time to start on any books regarding the same but it's on my to do list.
 
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Ankit Kumar said:
The US led armour push in Iraq from Kuwait is a perfect case study.

Fighter jets flying SEAD/DEAD missions first. Followed by Cobra helicopter gunships scouting. Then gunship & SF landing in rear.

Then artillery fire from the rear. And armour advance comprising of Tanks and Bradley's firing lots of TOW ATGMs.

Combined arms. Something which we are trying to emulate today, the superpower has actually done it.

Documentaries are there, really good description. I don't currently have the time to start on any books regarding the same but it's on my to do list.
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Check this documentary on pereh tank . Very interesting

 
kharabela said:
His opinion

https://twitter.com/x/status/1665189579127758852

https://twitter.com/x/status/1665190743206514688

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ATGMs need to take into account the future of APS systems.

That helicopter bit is wrong, if it doesn't meet basic requirements, it can't be inducted. A weapon system can quickly turn into a coffin if it's useless.
Ankit Kumar said:
The US led armour push in Iraq from Kuwait is a perfect case study.

Fighter jets flying SEAD/DEAD missions first. Followed by Cobra helicopter gunships scouting. Then gunship & SF landing in rear.

Then artillery fire from the rear. And armour advance comprising of Tanks and Bradley's firing lots of TOW ATGMs.

Combined arms. Something which we are trying to emulate today, the superpower has actually done it.

Documentaries are there, really good description. I don't currently have the time to start on any books regarding the same but it's on my to do list.
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What worked in 1991 may not necessarily work today though.
 
randomradio said:
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125mm dia restriction.

The present Konkurs is 135mm right. So if that fits, why a specific requirement of downsizing?

Anyways my only real concern is the range. MP ATGM, or Amogh 3 or VEM technology 3rd Gen ATGM , all won't be able to complete the requirements. Javelin & Spike are having bigger diameters , so would be difficult for them too.
 
Ankit Kumar said:
125mm dia restriction.

The present Konkurs is 135mm right. So if that fits, why a specific requirement of downsizing?

Anyways my only real concern is the range. MP ATGM, or Amogh 3 or VEM technology 3rd Gen ATGM , all won't be able to complete the requirements. Javelin & Spike are having bigger diameters , so would be difficult for them too.
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125mm means it kicks out all existing ATGMs forcing OEMs to develop new ones. It helps DRDO, MPATGM is 120mm.

Range is less of a concern. The Ukraine war's shown more range is useless, tanks are simply driving away in the time it takes. And direct attack has been more successful than top attack. Plus it appears new armour tech and more and better ERA placement have defeated existing ATGMs, so the Javelin has been failing consistently.

Here's a tank crew escaping two shots.

The only reason this tank got hit the second time was because of its sh!tty reverse speed common to Soviet era tanks.

The Russians are also using the weather against the Javelin, where dusk and dawn temps are similar to the tank's treated temp. Thermal crossover is lowering accuracy.

With the exception of some sporadic successes, particularly against weaker armour like IFVs and older tanks alongside quite a bit of incompetence, the Javelin isn't that crucial anymore. So a new missile is necessary.
 
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marich01 said:
Stryker on trial?

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Yeah, we are planning on getting a few (hundred) if it meets requirements. I'm guessing about 680 for 2 brigades, or just 1 brigade with 340. Numbers could climb even more with local production.

It doesn't take away from the main program though. The Stryker will actually help the IA make the indigenous program better via experience by using a proven system. We could end up with 20 brigades of wheeled armoured units. That's almost 7000 vehicles.
 
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