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I told you to refrain from insulting but yet you had to come up with phrases like silly correlations and terming basic fundas as rhetoric.
Listen Man you are bull$hitting from past 2 pages about economy without presenting a single fact or number and I have refrained out of respect to call you B.S. pure BS and if you still think it's somehow insulting you then better improve what you post and not cry when called out in most respected term. You presented ZERO funda of economics, ZERO or you can read your posts again.

Only an intellectually bankrupt individual can boast of 300 billion dollar of reserve for 1 billion people nation having 50% below poverty with no access to nutrition, healthcare or basic needs like water and sanitation.
Was I boasting? Are you serious???? You said something I was presenting numbers against your claims. Where was I boasting?

Let me say that, had there been no corruption, we would have been sitting on 5 trillions of Dollars as reserve. Counter that.
Why stop at 5 trillion?!!! :eek: There is no tax on trolling.

Indians like you lives in lala land where India is all heaven and an example for the world. We are piss poor, we are just more in numbers. Deal with it.
I don't know who gave you license but you don't know a thing about how I live and where I live so without knowing a thing stop judging. I didn't say we are leader of world infact many times I had said we can't be leader or example for world for decades to come thanks to our population, we can't even take stand without putting few thousands of us in problem.

That is corruption of mind. Cant see the reality. Can you give me a dollar figure for such corruption as well?
Assigning dollar to corruption is your job, forgot 5 trillions?

There are very few posters here and even less who put some quality from where we can learn or atleast challenge what we belive. I try to engage and learn from all here and when things like this happen I regret wasting my time. My intention was not to insult you but now I know for sure your intention was not engage in productive discussion but was random rethoric.
 
Listen Man you are bull$hitting from past 2 pages about economy without presenting a single fact or number and I have refrained out of respect to call you B.S. pure BS and if you still think it's somehow insulting you then better improve what you post and not cry when called out in most respected term. You presented ZERO funda of economics, ZERO or you can read your posts again.


Was I boasting? Are you serious???? You said something I was presenting numbers against your claims. Where was I boasting?


Why stop at 5 trillion?!!! :eek: There is no tax on trolling.


I don't know who gave you license but you don't know a thing about how I live and where I live so without knowing a thing stop judging. I didn't say we are leader of world infact many times I had said we can't be leader or example for world for decades to come thanks to our population, we can't even take stand without putting few thousands of us in problem.


Assigning dollar to corruption is your job, forgot 5 trillions?

There are very few posters here and even less who put some quality from where we can learn or atleast challenge what we belive. I try to engage and learn from all here and when things like this happen I regret wasting my time. My intention was not to insult you but now I know for sure your intention was not engage in productive discussion but was random rethoric.

As expected, again, the crust of my post went lost on you.

Your posts are oozing with mediocrity and its sheer waste of time to teach you basics of how corruption rot the system entirely and impact a nation growth.

Heck, do someone even need to be told so? Perhaps imbeciles believes its a blessing, no matter we are doomed as a nation.

Closet right wing propaganda is hard to hide for long. Infected people can go to an extent of passing even corruption as acceptable thing if that suits them. No matter how much effort scholars have given to write corrosive effect of corruption on states.
 
As expected, again, the crust of my post went lost on you.

Your posts are oozing with mediocrity and its sheer waste of time to teach you basics of how corruption rot the system entirely and impact a nation growth.

Heck, do someone even need to be told so? Perhaps imbeciles believes its a blessing, no matter we are doomed as a nation.

Closet right wing propaganda is hard to hide for long. Infected people can go to an extent of passing even corruption as acceptable thing if that suits them. No matter how much effort scholars have given to write corrosive effect of corruption on states.

Law is not absolute. So, even if there is corruption according to law, it may not be harmful for society. So, you have to first describe corruption in proper manner and then go on to explain how it affects various aspects of life.
 
Law is not absolute. So, even if there is corruption according to law, it may not be harmful for society. So, you have to first describe corruption in proper manner and then go on to explain how it affects various aspects of life.

No I wont. I will let you refer the modern society acceptable definition of corruption and consider me talking on similar lines.

Its a forum and not a kindergarten.

However since you have bought it up, now I am interested to know what kind of corruption as per current law is not harmful for society.
 
As expected, again, the crust of my post went lost on you.

Your posts are oozing with mediocrity and its sheer waste of time to teach you basics of how corruption rot the system entirely and impact a nation growth.

Heck, do someone even need to be told so? Perhaps imbeciles believes its a blessing, no matter we are doomed as a nation.

Closet right wing propaganda is hard to hide for long. Infected people can go to an extent of passing even corruption as acceptable thing if that suits them. No matter how much effort scholars have given to write corrosive effect of corruption on states.


Don't take it otherwise, but the ratio of insults thrown to actual content in your post is unusually high for a moderator. Just an observation.
 
Don't take it otherwise, but the ratio of insults thrown to actual content in your post is unusually high for a moderator. Just an observation.

Yes, you are right and they are deliberate. I hope you have seen my earlier post requesting to cut down insults thrown at me.

Being Human.
 
Yes, you are right and they are deliberate. I hope you have seen my earlier post requesting to cut down insults thrown at me.

Being Human.

Pardon me, but being human is hardly an excuse. You being a moderator and coming across as someone who is easily unsettled leaves a bad impression. Either disengage or bury them with logic and facts. Throwing insults is unbecoming of your designation.
This place is already on life support, you guys need to up your game.
 
Pardon me, but being human is hardly an excuse. You being a moderator and coming across as someone who is easily unsettled leaves a bad impression. Either disengage or bury them with logic and facts. Throwing insults is unbecoming of your designation.
This place is already on life support, you guys need to up your game.
With respect moderating and also engaging is a difficult at the best of times. One is always debating with clipped wings and sometimes it’s not easy.
Regarding life support - this forum is very young and growing - it takes time for a forum to grow and have an audience - average is about 3 years IMO
So far this forums quality and content is great - what would you rather have? 100 posts of trolling and 1 liners - or half a dozen quality? I know what I’d prefer.
 
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Pardon me, but being human is hardly an excuse. You being a moderator and coming across as someone who is easily unsettled leaves a bad impression. Either disengage or bury them with logic and facts. Throwing insults is unbecoming of your designation.
This place is already on life support, you guys need to up your game.

Upping the game? You mean take all bull$hit and waste energy in giving fact and figure to prove corruption is corrosive to all below -
1- Judiciary
2- Economy
3- Investor sentiments
4- Governance
5- Ethical and moral coefficient of society
6- Institutions
7- Education
8- Politics
9- Conscience of citizen
10- Global image

Now what point you find tough and want me to provide dollar figures? How about inventing a wheel again?

No, not gonna happen. Not specially for people who just since hate Pak army want to absolve their politicos like Nawaz and Zardari of all crime they did against their nation.

@Arbit I do not post as a moderator, neither moderate posts given in response to me in a discussion unless pure abusive. Feel free to report my posts for some other mod/admin to look into.

By the way the poster I quoted is part of our team with lot of moderating privileges himself and is equally responsible to uphold the sanctity of forum. Its just that you see my designation only. Funny.:ROFLMAO:
 
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Pakistan has just bought some time. They think they can now "negotiate with IMF".:cautious::cautious:
$ 3 billion loan & $ 3 billion for oil payment from their religious master.:censored::censored:
And IK supporter think they are out of trouble.:whistle::whistle:
 
Pakistan has just bought some time. They think they can now "negotiate with IMF".:cautious::cautious:
$ 3 billion loan & $ 3 billion for oil payment from their religious master.:censored::censored:
And IK supporter think they are out of trouble.:whistle::whistle:
No free lunches, money comes from Saudi Arabia so do the troubles. It will piss of Iran for sure.
 
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With respect moderating and also engaging is a difficult at the best of times. One is always debating with clipped wings and sometimes it’s not easy.
Regarding life support - this forum is very young and growing - it takes time for a forum to grow and have an audience - average is about 3 years IMO
So far this forums quality and content is great - what would you rather have? 100 posts of trolling and 1 liners - or half a dozen quality? I know what I’d prefer.

I concur. Moderating is a difficult job and some qualities necessarily goes with the job description. I am no one here to judge anyone or anybody's conduct, far from it. However a mods responsibilities are far more than debating here with reciprocal insults.
As an example, one might agree with randomradio or not, but I have never seen him hurl silly insults at anybody. That is our job!

By life support I exactly meant what you are saying. I didn't mean death bed but NICU. The time period till this forum gains critical mass is still critical.
 
Upping the game? You mean take all bull$hit and waste energy in giving fact and figure to prove corruption is corrosive to all below -
1- Judiciary
2- Economy
3- Investor sentiments
4- Governance
5- Ethical and moral coefficient of society
6- Institutions
7- Education
8- Politics
9- Conscience of citizen
10- Global image

Now what point you find tough and want me to provide dollar figures? How about inventing a wheel again?

No, not gonna happen. Not specially for people who just since hate Pak army want to absolve their politicos like Nawaz and Zardari of all crime they did against their nation.

@Arbit I do not post as a moderator, neither moderate posts given in response to me in a discussion unless pure abusive. Feel free to report my posts for some other mod/admin to look into.

By the way the poster I quoted is part of our team with lot of moderating privileges himself and is equally responsible to uphold the sanctity of forum. Its just that you see my designation only. Funny.:ROFLMAO:

There is nothing to report, my point was different. Anyway chuck it, the thread has already been derailed.
 
There is nothing to report, my point was different. Anyway chuck it, the thread has already been derailed.

You derailed it by having nothing of substance to add to the debate.
You come on here with on average 1 post a week and even then struggle to stay on topic then insinuate the threads been derailed and the forum is on life support?
Are you on the wrong forum? Shouldn't you be busy as a beaver on PDF? Is that your regular haunt?
Attempt to say something about the topic - its something members respect on here.
Adios
 
There is nothing to report, my point was different. Anyway chuck it, the thread has already been derailed.

Derailed, yes, but why not you help bringing back on track.

Provide your opinion if rampant corruption can negatively impact a country's economy or not. Do you put political leadership of Pakistan along with its army for the state Pakistan is in now or you will just blame army only?

I have been told that I am bull$hitting by holding both political and armed wing responsible for the mess.

Give us your take on the subject.