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But let us accept that IK's reply was brutal... No sugar coating.......

It was lame and self inflicting.

1- They were not requested to participate but were told to. Not for humanity sake but to host terrorists.
2- 75 K Pakistani dead. Why so? Because Pakistan hosted terrorists among them. Isn't it as per Pak own admission almost 40K terrorists were killed by Pak forces? So you kill your terrorists and bill others?

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It was lame and self inflicting.

1- They were not requested to participate but were told to. Not for humanity sake but to host terrorists.
2- 75 K Pakistani dead. Why so? Because Pakistan hosted terrorists among them. Isn't it as per Pak own admission almost 40K terrorists were killed by Pak forces? So you kill your terrorists and bill others?

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I'm not getting your alerts, for some reason.

Yes. Pakistan under Musharraf was threatened by Richard Armitage -

Bush threatened to bomb Pakistan, says Musharraf


But the PA & deep state have always known to extract "strategic rent " as former NSA S.S.Menon succinctly put it. What better way to live the luxurious life than first nurture & utilise your demographic dividend for nefarious purposes, eliminate them and get paid for it. It's win win for the PA. Pakistan dwich maujaa hi maujaa. Jithe dekho uthe faujaa hi faujaa.
 
But let us accept that IK's reply was brutal... No sugar coating.......

Agreed, specially the second tweet was a biatch slap
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I'm glad and proud that for the first time in 71 years a Pakistani leader has been able to stand up against the mighty US. Whereas Zardari and Sharif sold the country to the muricans in exchange for extended support for power, this guy remains unfearful and determined.

I fear for his life though. Americans nor the Saudis want a strong Pakistan but rather a submissive begging slave in Islamabad they can control.
 
It was lame and self inflicting.

1- They were not requested to participate but were told to. Not for humanity sake but to host terrorists.
2- 75 K Pakistani dead. Why so? Because Pakistan hosted terrorists among them. Isn't it as per Pak own admission almost 40K terrorists were killed by Pak forces? So you kill your terrorists and bill others?

@_Anonymous_

It's a fallout of their Good/Bad terrorist classification. They didn't realize that being US's executioner against the Soviets and the resultant added advantage of having an unconventional edge against India could eventually be their biggest nemesis. The terror infrastructure they knowingly built up, spun out of control and worked against them later. There is no escape from that, as long as they believe Terror is a powerful tool they can use against their adversaries.
 
It's a fallout of their Good/Bad terrorist classification. They didn't realize that being US's executioner against the Soviets and the resultant added advantage of having an unconventional edge against India could eventually be their biggest nemesis. The terror infrastructure they knowingly built up, spun out of control and worked against them later. There is no escape from that, as long as they believe Terror is a powerful tool they can use against their adversaries.

Its tribal turned terrorists conundrum.
 
I fear for his life though. Americans nor the Saudis want a strong Pakistan but rather a submissive begging slave in Islamabad they can control.
Isn't this an exagerration? In the history of political assassinations in Pakistan, barring that of Liaqat Ali Khan ( this too was never substantiated, but was more a case of reasonable doubt) which foreign power ever intervened in political assassinations executed in Pakistan?

What would KSA or the US gain by assassinating IK? Most foreign policy decisions and control of its strategic weapons rest with the PA. IK is merely the nominally elected PM of Pakistan. More toothless tiger, really as the recent protests carried out by the Barelvi dominated Islamic parties demonstrated. It was defused courtesy the PA & as long as he continues to do their bidding, he'd continue unharmed. If he gets to be a nuisance, he'd be dealt with a la NS & if he gets to be dangerous then BB's fate it is.
 
It's a fallout of their Good/Bad terrorist classification. They didn't realize that being US's executioner against the Soviets and the resultant added advantage of having an unconventional edge against India could eventually be their biggest nemesis. The terror infrastructure they knowingly built up, spun out of control and worked against them later. There is no escape from that, as long as they believe Terror is a powerful tool they can use against their adversaries.
On the contrary, after the initial mayhem, PA has been remarkably successful for the time being in taming the TTP & other tanzeems opposed to it, albeit at great costs. Please refer to the number of terrorist incudents post the storming of the Lal Masjid ( it's officially the date when the TTP began operations against the PA & the Pakistani state) year on year & compare it with what it's been this calendar year and you'd see what I mean.

It's another matter that in doing so they've ravaged FATA thus sowing seeds for a deadly confrontation at a future date, that these operations has the PA stretched thin coupled with deployments on their western & eastern borders apart from other pressing internal security duties , that their economy is in the doldrums, that their relationship with the US is turning tense, that their iron brother isn't exactly at their co operative best in their hour of need.

The PA has scored tactical victories in their fight against the TTP & courtesy the Afghan Taliban executing it's policy of strategic depth in Afghanistan. For the time being.
 
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I'm not getting your alerts, for some reason.

Yes. Pakistan under Musharraf was threatened by Richard Armitage -

Bush threatened to bomb Pakistan, says Musharraf


But the PA & deep state have always known to extract "strategic rent " as former NSA S.S.Menon succinctly put it. What better way to live the luxurious life than first nurture & utilise your demographic dividend for nefarious purposes, eliminate them and get paid for it. It's win win for the PA. Pakistan dwich maujaa hi maujaa. Jithe dekho uthe faujaa hi faujaa.

are you getting all my alerts promptly?
 
IMF team concludes Pakistan visit without finalizing a possible bailout

IMF team concludes Pakistan visit without finalizing a possible bailout
November 20, 2018

AFP

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A team from the International Monetary Fund concluded its visit to Pakistan Tuesday, the government said, adding that “substantive progress” had been made but talks will continue on a possible bailout.

The IMF mission held “extensive talks” with Pakistani officials during the visit, which began on November 7, the finance ministry said in a statement.

“Substantive progress has been made by the government of Pakistan and the IMF Mission towards developing a common understanding on the policy and structural reforms framework for the prospective IMF programme,” the statement continued.






“The positive engagement with the IMF will continue over the coming weeks to finalize the programme with the Fund.”

Pakistan — which has gone to the IMF repeatedly since the late 1980s — is facing a widening balance of payments crisis.

But earlier this month finance minister Asad Umar said that unspecified assurances from China — combined with a pledge made by Saudi Arabia in October — meant that Pakistan’s immediate fiscal woes were “over”.

Riyadh pledged $6 billion in funding and struck a 12-month deal for a balance of payments lifeline during a visit by Prime Minister Imran Khan.

No further announcement has been made about any Chinese assistance.

Despite the pledges, Pakistan has said it will still seek broader IMF support for the government’s long-term economic planning.

In his statement, Umar said the reforms discussed included “fiscal and monetary measures, corrective interventions for balance of payments sustainability, pro-poor spending, governance and development of a business-friendly environment”.
 
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Saudi Arabia needs to control his feelings, we have to somehow explain this to them and they have to understand this is not good for them.
 
How often can you suspend the same fund that was suspended earlier this year. USaid to Pakistan has come to nil for a while. Keep playing the media by suspending is over and over again. :LOL:

Can't take it no more: US suspends $1.6 bn aid to Pakistan

"Done Nothing To Help Us": Trump On Stopping $1.3 Billion Aid To Pakistan


In Signal Of US Frustration With Pak, Trump Cancels $1.66 Billion Aid


US suspends $1.66 billion security aid to Pakistan


Perhaps it's the Trump's administration's version of that Valentine favourite -"Can you feel the love tonight? " - to Pakistan.

The Indian media dutifully & gleefully reported the tough love which yours truly reproduced out here .
 
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Agreed, specially the second tweet was a biatch slap
:D
I'm glad and proud that for the first time in 71 years a Pakistani leader has been able to stand up against the mighty US. Whereas Zardari and Sharif sold the country to the muricans in exchange for extended support for power, this guy remains unfearful and determined.

I fear for his life though. Americans nor the Saudis want a strong Pakistan but rather a submissive begging slave in Islamabad they can control.


No comparison. The response from Nawaz Sharif would have been toothless, cowardly and bowing to his masters.
I think IK is fresh and new to the challenge. Being in opposition and being in the boxed seat are completely different. He needs time to mature. His hearts in the right place - just needs to grasp the realities of the task and realise Rome wasnt built in a day.