Israel-Hamas Conflict: Updates & Discussions

Iran thoroughly understands that they cannot pass the threshold of wimps. But, whatever the case, the US must not allow itself to be distracted in the ME until the Chinese threat on Taiwan is subdued. The world also can't afford a major war in the ME for at least the next 10 years. So we should be thankful for Iran if the war doesn't escalate.
The US Pacific fleet takes care of Taiwan more so when Japan's navy gets involved. That conflict will be a naval air war conflict no troops.

A US Iran conflict if Iran hits US bases will be a bombing campaign with bombers and fighters stationed in UAE, Saudi and Quatar. It won't end well for Iran and they know it. It won't end well for Iran against Israel which is why they want to be careful in provoking Israel into an escalating retaliation.

Major wars in middle east has happened many times without US involvement it is the reason why we don't have bases in Israel and instead give them weapons. A lot of US weapon systems get their cherry popped under Israel.

I have a bad feeling we're going to be out of commission to get involved even if we wanted to.
 
The US Pacific fleet takes care of Taiwan more so when Japan's navy gets involved. That conflict will be a naval air war conflict no troops.

A US Iran conflict if Iran hits US bases will be a bombing campaign with bombers and fighters stationed in UAE, Saudi and Quatar. It won't end well for Iran and they know it. It won't end well for Iran against Israel which is why they want to be careful in provoking Israel into an escalating retaliation.

Major wars in middle east has happened many times without US involvement it is the reason why we don't have bases in Israel and instead give them weapons. A lot of US weapon systems get their cherry popped under Israel.

I have a bad feeling we're going to be out of commission to get involved even if we wanted to.

The issue is the US' weakest link is the US Army/Marines, 'cause of lack of recruits. Only 13% of the population is eligible for the draft and only 2% is eligible for volunteering. So any major war will eat up America's best men, leaving all the fatsos, the crippled, and the retarded behind.

The US Army's participation is definitely necessary in both theaters. The local ground troops are not trained to fight with USN and USAF support like the rest of NATO.

Another issue is the US is not prepared to fight 2 different enemies at the same time.

Instead of winning two wars, it's now committed to being able to win against one major adversary such as China, and to present a serious deterrent to attacks from other enemies, Cohen said.

The Pentagon's 2022 US National Defense Strategy, the most recent, commits the US to being able to "prevail in conflict" yet still "deter opportunistic aggression elsewhere."


Allies like JMSDF can only support the USN. Neither the Australians nor the Japanese can face China directly.

So the reality is none of the service wings have the resources for wars in two different oceans. To fight Iran, the US needs a least 5-6 carriers and about 2000 fighter jets. All 'cause the US Army cannot fight alone like the Russians can.

To make things worse, in case of victory, unlike Taiwan, the population in the ME will still remain hostile to US occupation, so more troops are necessary for that. So getting pulled into the ME is the worst outcome for the US, even without bringing in global oil disruption.
 
"In response, the US asked Iran not to hit American targets," Jamshidi said.

Looks like the US wants to sit out. Good.
 
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The issue is the US' weakest link is the US Army/Marines, 'cause of lack of recruits. Only 13% of the population is eligible for the draft and only 2% is eligible for volunteering. So any major war will eat up America's best men, leaving all the fatsos, the crippled, and the retarded behind.

The US Army's participation is definitely necessary in both theaters. The local ground troops are not trained to fight with USN and USAF support like the rest of NATO.

Another issue is the US is not prepared to fight 2 different enemies at the same time.

Instead of winning two wars, it's now committed to being able to win against one major adversary such as China, and to present a serious deterrent to attacks from other enemies, Cohen said.

The Pentagon's 2022 US National Defense Strategy, the most recent, commits the US to being able to "prevail in conflict" yet still "deter opportunistic aggression elsewhere."


Allies like JMSDF can only support the USN. Neither the Australians nor the Japanese can face China directly.

So the reality is none of the service wings have the resources for wars in two different oceans. To fight Iran, the US needs a least 5-6 carriers and about 2000 fighter jets. All 'cause the US Army cannot fight alone like the Russians can.

To make things worse, in case of victory, unlike Taiwan, the population in the ME will still remain hostile to US occupation, so more troops are necessary for that. So getting pulled into the ME is the worst outcome for the US, even without bringing in global oil disruption.
You need to unclogged that noggin of yours about US troops being needed for a US defense of Taiwan because it does not you need to stop telling yourself that it does. A Taiwan conflict USN will have 2 possibly 3 CVN's and their escorts and will also have 2 LHD's carrying 20 F-35Bs Japanese warships will incorporate themselves with US fleet the same with Ozzie ships. USAF at worst will be able to have 2-3 squadrons (18-24 per squadron) of F-22's AND F-35's on Okinawa and surrounding Islands. Philippines would love and will host US forces like tankers and AWACS so the what is needed for a conflict with China has been taken into consideration of what will be used and can be used... meaning no troops!

As for middle east conflict the US has never participated in a middle east war where Israel was involved. If Iran attacks Israel, Israel doesn't need our troops as you saw the weeks that followed October 7th war US sent 2 CVN battle groups and non carrier task force to the region when it was thought hezbollah/Iran was going to get involved when Israel was ready for its ground war. Even the Euro navies got involved but NO US TROOPS! USAF had assets in Cyprus and surrounding region.

Even if Iran attacks US bases the response is not going to be invasion but an air pounding unlike Iran has ever seen. Every strategic importance that Iran holds dear will be gone including their nuke program and everything related.

Something happens in Ukraine where it escalates the Euros, except the Krauts, can handle it with the handful of USAF squadrons that are already there. Don't let articles deceive you it's meant for psyops against our enemy and congress to keep feeding the MIC. Gotta have a boogieman all the time ready to destroy the US and her allies or part of their budget wont be justified.
 

Wow, this guy's always completely clueless. Yeah, the US needs its navy against both Russia and China, never mind just Iran.

In fact, the USN is required more urgently against the Russians than the Chinese. If the US goes to war with Russia in Ukraine, the Russians will swarm the entire Atlantic to stop US logistics. Pretty much 70% of the USN will have to be sent to the Atlantic. You can kiss goodbye to civilian shipping between North America and Europe at that point.

You need to unclogged that noggin of yours about US troops being needed for a US defense of Taiwan because it does not you need to stop telling yourself that it does. A Taiwan conflict USN will have 2 possibly 3 CVN's and their escorts and will also have 2 LHD's carrying 20 F-35Bs Japanese warships will incorporate themselves with US fleet the same with Ozzie ships. USAF at worst will be able to have 2-3 squadrons (18-24 per squadron) of F-22's AND F-35's on Okinawa and surrounding Islands. Philippines would love and will host US forces like tankers and AWACS so the what is needed for a conflict with China has been taken into consideration of what will be used and can be used... meaning no troops!

Depends. If Taiwan doesn't allow a lodgment of Chinese forces, then it's fine. But the minute a lodgment is seized, if the US Army doesn't step in, Taiwan is done. And in turn, the US will lose control of over half the Pacific.

Furthermore, an AirSea Battle is enough if the US has air and sea superiority, but that's not expected in a fight over Taiwan. Let's just say your entire navy and air force are not sufficient for this task. Taiwan's proximity to China's landmass puts the US at a severe disadvantage.

The lodgment is important because China has a population advantage. Once they are on the island, only a population large enough to fight and lose men can take them on. And if the US Army doesn't break the lodgment, then you can kiss goodbye to all your allies, not just Taiwan. Forget the Philippines, SoKo and Japan, even Guam will come under threat, all the way to Hawaii. And to break the lodgment, the US will need a million troops minimum. And the casualty rate on both sides will make Ukraine look like a cakewalk.

Personally, I don't think a Taiwan war is possible without a NoKo invasion of SoKo. So that will bring both the draft and the US Army to both wars.

As for middle east conflict the US has never participated in a middle east war where Israel was involved. If Iran attacks Israel, Israel doesn't need our troops as you saw the weeks that followed October 7th war US sent 2 CVN battle groups and non carrier task force to the region when it was thought hezbollah/Iran was going to get involved when Israel was ready for its ground war. Even the Euro navies got involved but NO US TROOPS! USAF had assets in Cyprus and surrounding region.

Even if Iran attacks US bases the response is not going to be invasion but an air pounding unlike Iran has ever seen. Every strategic importance that Iran holds dear will be gone including their nuke program and everything related.

Something happens in Ukraine where it escalates the Euros, except the Krauts, can handle it with the handful of USAF squadrons that are already there. Don't let articles deceive you it's meant for psyops against our enemy and congress to keep feeding the MIC. Gotta have a boogieman all the time ready to destroy the US and her allies or part of their budget wont be justified.

Israel's past wars did not involve Iran. And Iran is a whole different cup of tea compared to countries like Egypt due to the level of fanaticism the people have. A war with Iran won't happen just between a few countries, it will include the entire ME. Even the GCC will have to enter the war, with domestic populations that are against Israel and may rebel. So the US Army is not just necessary to invade Iran, but also defend the rest of the ME, 'cause the locals are incapable of that.

In any case most of what Iran has is underground, only an army can get to them. And bombing an army is not enough either.

Anyway, yeah, at the very least I don't think Biden will interfere, and both sides don't seem to want to fight each other. The Republicans are a wild card. I hope the Israelis get done with it before Jan. But I don't think Trump is interested in fighting wars either. I won't even be surprised if he sits out of the Taiwan war.
 
Iran's gonna attack in a few days. They will use drones and CMs. But the attack will be caliberated to prevent escalation.
 
Wow, this guy's always completely clueless. Yeah, the US needs its navy against both Russia and China, never mind just Iran.

How many western government think tanks and strategic think tanks have paid to hear you speak? He was VP of Stratfor so he's not clueless he's just way above your league of thinking that he sounds clueless to you.
In fact, the USN is required more urgently against the Russians than the Chinese. If the US goes to war with Russia in Ukraine, the Russians will swarm the entire Atlantic to stop US logistics. Pretty much 70% of the USN will have to be sent to the Atlantic. You can kiss goodbye to civilian shipping between North America and Europe at that point.

Oy vey. Do you pat yourself on the back every time you post?

It's as if your head is buried deep in the sand. Russia has a shtty outdated navy that can't fight a combined arms style war under high-tech conditions. You might wanna take a look at their northern fleet

Not impressive at all. You're also forgetting many things, likely on purpose to bolster your claims, any conventional kinetic war with Russia it will involved NATO including Sweden and Finland. Kinetic war will mean shoot to kill and not this cat and mouse game that currently takes place the outdated Russian navy will not make it past the extreme northern part of Norway as F35's, Gripens and F-18s close that part of the air and sea as British and Norwegian warships with other NATO warships unclouding subs lay in weight past Iceland with air cover.
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Lol. Yeah good luck Russian navy. A no nation navy like Ukraine has already taken out 1/3 of Russia's black sea fleet in which they now hide in port and you're going to make this ridiculous claim? Puhleeze!


Depends. If Taiwan doesn't allow a lodgment of Chinese forces, then it's fine. But the minute a lodgment is seized, if the US Army doesn't step in, Taiwan is done. And in turn, the US will lose control of over half the Pacific.

Lol. The chicoms won't be able to land platoon size landing forces let alone brigade size.

Get this through your head a conflict in Taiwan is going to have weeks maybe months of warning just like when Russia was massing troops before the war. Chicoms would have to mass a sht load of aircraft, supplies, stage their missile forces and troops, etc etc.... all this takes time and can't be hidden from US ISR. This will give Taiwan, US and allies enough time to stage their naval and air forces. Taiwan has the line of sight advantage and no chicom warship is going to expose themselves to Taiwan shore based antiship missiles.

Before chicoms can land troops it's going to be a very long air and sea battle where chicoms need to make sure their landing ships are safe from antiship missiles and other missiles that can hit their landing craft. That is going to be a long and painful campaign to make sure they can land.
Furthermore, an AirSea Battle is enough if the US has air and sea superiority, but that's not expected in a fight over Taiwan. Let's just say your entire navy and air force are not sufficient for this task. Taiwan's proximity to China's landmass puts the US at a severe disadvantage.

What does that even mean? "Lets just say" is that suppose to be some secret you know but can't say because it's classified or just saying that to sound smart and in the know when you're clueless? :ROFLMAO:

A U.S. aircraft carrier would be capable of executing its mission in a conflict with China, a senior Navy official says, responding to the argument that Beijing's "carrier killer" missiles would make the vessel less relevant to a battle in the western Pacific.

"Our highly trained sailors can operate these complex, contested domains and be lethal and survivable, and execute the mission regardless of what the threat is," Rear Adm. Carlos Sardiello, commander of the USS Carl Vinson strike group, told a few reporters aboard the carrier on Wednesday.

"I am absolutely confident that the carrier strike group can execute the mission that it was designed to do effectively and safely," even against Chinese missiles, Sardiello said, adding that the strike group "demonstrates the military might of the nation."

I think I'm gonna listen to the opinion of the CO of the Carl Vinson than some Indian behind a keyboard who thinks highly of himself as some expert on US military capabilities. When you want the truth of the confidence of a US weapon system against near peer adversary always ask the pilots and CO's of a ship. They are the ones in the know of what they are capable.


The lodgment is important because China has a population advantage. Once they are on the island, only a population large enough to fight and lose men can take them on. And if the US Army doesn't break the lodgment, then you can kiss goodbye to all your allies, not just Taiwan. Forget the Philippines, SoKo and Japan, even Guam will come under threat, all the way to Hawaii. And to break the lodgment, the US will need a million troops minimum. And the casualty rate on both sides will make Ukraine look like a cakewalk.

Personally, I don't think a Taiwan war is possible without a NoKo invasion of SoKo. So that will bring both the draft and the US Army to both wars.

SoKo has their own land army which can easily surpass a million. SoKo military is a very advanced military and won't need much help. US already has 30k troops in SoKo and almost 40k in Japan just for a Korean conflict.

Unlike you thanks to the Russian war I don't have confident in China's and definitely no confident in NoKo's military capability. All 3 militaries lack so much including the all important combined arms capability. The corruption in all 3 military is staggering and as we saw with Russia the commanders are all yes-men/friends of the supreme leader and did not earn their position of power through merit.

Before the Russian invasion everyone including me thought they would easily take half of Ukraine because of the hype of the Russian military by Russia and their fanboys and the US. The same is for the chicom military the hype for the chicom military is ridiculous coming from china, US and many of you Indians. Before Ukraine war Russia has never tasted a real war against true mechanize army with capable IADS and it shows their lack of experience the same is for China and their first real war/conflict will be against Taiwan a real modern military that can hit back and which will have the USN and USAF backing them up. It doesn't look good for Chyna.
Israel's past wars did not involve Iran. And Iran is a whole different cup of tea compared to countries like Egypt due to the level of fanaticism the people have. A war with Iran won't happen just between a few countries, it will include the entire ME. Even the GCC will have to enter the war, with domestic populations that are against Israel and may rebel. So the US Army is not just necessary to invade Iran, but also defend the rest of the ME, 'cause the locals are incapable of that.

Israel's war involved Soviet trained and equipped neighbors which had Soviet fighter pilots flying a handful of Migs in Egyptian markings and Israel still stands. Iran has no conventional land forces that are a threat they can't send their tanks and army outside their border without a logistic nightmare just like Russia. Every time Iran sends weapons through Iraq the moment it enters Syria it gets bombed. The only thing Iran has are ballistic missiles and drones. They can't send forces to Syria or Lebanon because they know they won't make it that far. Iran has hezbollah as their groundforces but they will get easily dispatched when Israel takes off the gloves. Hezbollah is shtting bricks right now because they see Israel removing Israeli mines near Golan Lebanon border giving Israel another front for hezbollah to fight which they are not built for.

No GCC nation is getting involved. Sunni nations hate Iran more than zee jews even Sadam hated Iran more than Israel. Sunni muslims see shiat muslims as a threat to their faith the jews are just occupiers of their land but no threat to their faith.
In any case most of what Iran has is underground, only an army can get to them. And bombing an army is not enough either.

Ayatollahs power is weak and so are their military the only thing to hit are their ballistic missile hideouts and nuke program which are underground and can be hit many times by US bombers carrying 30k lbs MOP bomb. Ayatollahs and Quds are in a catch 20. If they hide from US bombing their power is pretty much gone and folks will revolt if they don't hide many of them will be killed weakening their already weak power they hold.
 
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How many western government think tanks and strategic think tanks have paid to hear you speak? He was VP of Stratfor so he's not clueless he's just way above your league of thinking that he sounds clueless to you.


Oy vey. Do you pat yourself on the back every time you post?

It's as if your head is buried deep in the sand. Russia has a shtty outdated navy that can't fight a combined arms style war under high-tech conditions. You might wanna take a look at their northern fleet

Not impressive at all. You're also forgetting many things, likely on purpose to bolster your claims, any conventional kinetic war with Russia it will involved NATO including Sweden and Finland. Kinetic war will mean shoot to kill and not this cat and mouse game that currently takes place the outdated Russian navy will not make it past the extreme northern part of Norway as F35's, Gripens and F-18s close that part of the air and sea as British and Norwegian warships with other NATO warships unclouding subs lay in weight past Iceland with air cover.
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Lol. Yeah good luck Russian navy. A no nation navy like Ukraine has already taken out 1/3 of Russia's black sea fleet in which they now hide in port and you're going to make this ridiculous claim? Puhleeze!




Lol. The chicoms won't be able to land platoon size landing forces let alone brigade size.

Get this through your head a conflict in Taiwan is going to have weeks maybe months of warning just like when Russia was massing troops before the war. Chicoms would have to mass a sht load of aircraft, supplies, stage their missile forces and troops, etc etc.... all this takes time and can't be hidden from US ISR. This will give Taiwan, US and allies enough time to stage their naval and air forces. Taiwan has the line of sight advantage and no chicom warship is going to expose themselves to Taiwan shore based antiship missiles.

Before chicoms can land troops it's going to be a very long air and sea battle where chicoms need to make sure their landing ships are safe from antiship missiles and other missiles that can hit their landing craft. That is going to be a long and painful campaign to make sure they can land.


What does that even mean? "Lets just say" is that suppose to be some secret you know but can't say because it's classified or just saying that to sound smart and in the know when you're clueless? :ROFLMAO:

A U.S. aircraft carrier would be capable of executing its mission in a conflict with China, a senior Navy official says, responding to the argument that Beijing's "carrier killer" missiles would make the vessel less relevant to a battle in the western Pacific.

"Our highly trained sailors can operate these complex, contested domains and be lethal and survivable, and execute the mission regardless of what the threat is," Rear Adm. Carlos Sardiello, commander of the USS Carl Vinson strike group, told a few reporters aboard the carrier on Wednesday.

"I am absolutely confident that the carrier strike group can execute the mission that it was designed to do effectively and safely," even against Chinese missiles, Sardiello said, adding that the strike group "demonstrates the military might of the nation."

I think I'm gonna listen to the opinion of the CO of the Carl Vinson than some Indian behind a keyboard who thinks highly of himself as some expert on US military capabilities. When you want the truth of the confidence of a US weapon system against near peer adversary always ask the pilots and CO's of a ship. They are the ones in the know of what they are capable.




SoKo has their own land army which can easily surpass a million. SoKo military is a very advanced military and won't need much help. US already has 30k troops in SoKo and almost 40k in Japan just for a Korean conflict.

Unlike you thanks to the Russian war I don't have confident in China's and definitely no confident in NoKo's military capability. All 3 militaries lack so much including the all important combined arms capability. The corruption in all 3 military is staggering and as we saw with Russia the commanders are all yes-men/friends of the supreme leader and did not earn their position of power through merit.

Before the Russian invasion everyone including me thought they would easily take half of Ukraine because of the hype of the Russian military by Russia and their fanboys and the US. The same is for the chicom military the hype for the chicom military is ridiculous coming from china, US and many of you Indians. Before Ukraine war Russia has never tasted a real war against true mechanize army with capable IADS and it shows their lack of experience the same is for China and their first real war/conflict will be against Taiwan a real modern military that can hit back and which will have the USN and USAF backing them up. It doesn't look good for Chyna.


Israel's war involved Soviet trained and equipped neighbors which had Soviet fighter pilots flying a handful of Migs in Egyptian markings and Israel still stands. Iran has no conventional land forces that are a threat they can't send their tanks and army outside their border without a logistic nightmare just like Russia. Every time Iran sends weapons through Iraq the moment it enters Syria it gets bombed. The only thing Iran has are ballistic missiles and drones. They can't send forces to Syria or Lebanon because they know they won't make it that far. Iran has hezbollah as their groundforces but they will get easily dispatched when Israel takes off the gloves. Hezbollah is shtting bricks right now because they see Israel removing Israeli mines near Golan Lebanon border giving Israel another front for hezbollah to fight which they are not built for.

No GCC nation is getting involved. Sunni nations hate Iran more than zee jews even Sadam hated Iran more than Israel. Sunni muslims see shiat muslims as a threat to their faith the jews are just occupiers of their land but no threat to their faith.


Ayatollahs power is weak and so are their military the only thing to hit are their ballistic missile hideouts and nuke program which are underground and can be hit many times by US bombers carrying 30k lbs MOP bomb. Ayatollahs and Quds are in a catch 20. If they hide from US bombing their power is pretty much gone and folks will revolt if they don't hide many of them will be killed weakening their already weak power they hold.

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How many western government think tanks and strategic think tanks have paid to hear you speak? He was VP of Stratfor so he's not clueless he's just way above your league of thinking that he sounds clueless to you.

I've seen quite a few of his videos on both Russia and China, he's completely clueless. He's one of those people who reads Western news, doesn't know what the sh!t is actually happening inside these countries, then gives a Western-centric opinion.

Basically he says what the Western audience wants to hear, nothing else. So it's no surprise you are his target audience.

Oy vey. Do you pat yourself on the back every time you post?

It's as if your head is buried deep in the sand. Russia has a shtty outdated navy that can't fight a combined arms style war under high-tech conditions. You might wanna take a look at their northern fleet

Not impressive at all. You're also forgetting many things, likely on purpose to bolster your claims, any conventional kinetic war with Russia it will involved NATO including Sweden and Finland. Kinetic war will mean shoot to kill and not this cat and mouse game that currently takes place the outdated Russian navy will not make it past the extreme northern part of Norway as F35's, Gripens and F-18s close that part of the air and sea as British and Norwegian warships with other NATO warships unclouding subs lay in weight past Iceland with air cover.
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Lol. Yeah good luck Russian navy. A no nation navy like Ukraine has already taken out 1/3 of Russia's black sea fleet in which they now hide in port and you're going to make this ridiculous claim? Puhleeze!

Their surface fleet is insufficient, practically trash even, but the Russians have SSNs, fully modernized, in strength. The USN will need to deploy in vast numbers to counter their SSN fleet.

A single SSN can dominate a vast swathe of ocean if it goes unchecked. And the Atlantic trade route will be extremely ripe with targets. 24 SSNs in active duty, that's too much for just the current Atlantic Fleet to handle. And they are inducting 1 every year now.

Lol. The chicoms won't be able to land platoon size landing forces let alone brigade size.

Get this through your head a conflict in Taiwan is going to have weeks maybe months of warning just like when Russia was massing troops before the war. Chicoms would have to mass a sht load of aircraft, supplies, stage their missile forces and troops, etc etc.... all this takes time and can't be hidden from US ISR. This will give Taiwan, US and allies enough time to stage their naval and air forces. Taiwan has the line of sight advantage and no chicom warship is going to expose themselves to Taiwan shore based antiship missiles.

Before chicoms can land troops it's going to be a very long air and sea battle where chicoms need to make sure their landing ships are safe from antiship missiles and other missiles that can hit their landing craft. That is going to be a long and painful campaign to make sure they can land.

What makes you think the Chinese will launch an invasion without first creating the ability to take control of the skies first?

The entire point of a 2027 invasion is they are expected to have a numerical superiority over the entire USAF along with technological parity, not just theater forces, especially those that can be deployed across Taiwan. Maybe you didn't notice but there's not a lot of land east of Taiwan in comparison to the west. So there's not enough air bases for the US.

In fact, the US Army is current equipping itself and training to fight in conditions of no air support.

What does that even mean? "Lets just say" is that suppose to be some secret you know but can't say because it's classified or just saying that to sound smart and in the know when you're clueless? :ROFLMAO:

A U.S. aircraft carrier would be capable of executing its mission in a conflict with China, a senior Navy official says, responding to the argument that Beijing's "carrier killer" missiles would make the vessel less relevant to a battle in the western Pacific.

"Our highly trained sailors can operate these complex, contested domains and be lethal and survivable, and execute the mission regardless of what the threat is," Rear Adm. Carlos Sardiello, commander of the USS Carl Vinson strike group, told a few reporters aboard the carrier on Wednesday.

"I am absolutely confident that the carrier strike group can execute the mission that it was designed to do effectively and safely," even against Chinese missiles, Sardiello said, adding that the strike group "demonstrates the military might of the nation."

I think I'm gonna listen to the opinion of the CO of the Carl Vinson than some Indian behind a keyboard who thinks highly of himself as some expert on US military capabilities. When you want the truth of the confidence of a US weapon system against near peer adversary always ask the pilots and CO's of a ship. They are the ones in the know of what they are capable.

Great, but all that's under the assumption your carriers are not fighting Russia and Iran. The entire point is the US can only fight one war at a time. But if the US gets sucked into a fight over Iran and Ukraine, then there's not gonna be much navy fighting for Taiwan, now, is there? If Carl Vinson is in the Arabian Sea bombing Iran, then it's obviously is not around to defend Taiwan or prevent an invasion of NoKo, now, is it?

You attack me for not being an expert, but my posts are merely based on logic and common sense. You don't need to be an expert to understand them. The fact that you don't speaks volumes of your ability to comprehend basic things like this.

SoKo has their own land army which can easily surpass a million. SoKo military is a very advanced military and won't need much help. US already has 30k troops in SoKo and almost 40k in Japan just for a Korean conflict.

Unlike you thanks to the Russian war I don't have confident in China's and definitely no confident in NoKo's military capability. All 3 militaries lack so much including the all important combined arms capability. The corruption in all 3 military is staggering and as we saw with Russia the commanders are all yes-men/friends of the supreme leader and did not earn their position of power through merit.

Yeah, dude, keep underestimating them, an opinion no doubt from all your years of expertise. Good thing the US forces aren't.

Having or not having a combined arms army doesn't mean victory or defeat. It's just a way to balance out forces on the field. The actual determinant of victory or defeat is how much losses you can replace. If NoKo can replace a million losses and SoKo/US cannot, then they win. During WW2, the Germans had every conceivable advantage over the Soviets, but they lost simply because the Soviets could replace their losses, nothing else.

Israel's war involved Soviet trained and equipped neighbors which had Soviet fighter pilots flying a handful of Migs in Egyptian markings and Israel still stands. Iran has no conventional land forces that are a threat they can't send their tanks and army outside their border without a logistic nightmare just like Russia. Every time Iran sends weapons through Iraq the moment it enters Syria it gets bombed. The only thing Iran has are ballistic missiles and drones. They can't send forces to Syria or Lebanon because they know they won't make it that far. Iran has hezbollah as their groundforces but they will get easily dispatched when Israel takes off the gloves. Hezbollah is shtting bricks right now because they see Israel removing Israeli mines near Golan Lebanon border giving Israel another front for hezbollah to fight which they are not built for.

The same as NoKo. Iran has strength in numbers, and can replace losses. Israel is not in a position to get into attrition warfare due to lack of replacements. Their population is way too small.

No GCC nation is getting involved. Sunni nations hate Iran more than zee jews even Sadam hated Iran more than Israel. Sunni muslims see shiat muslims as a threat to their faith the jews are just occupiers of their land but no threat to their faith.

The GCC will get on Israel's side, to fight Iran. But that will go badly with their own people. So the US troops are necessary to both fight Iran, in large numbers, and to keep the peace in the GCC.

If Iran's pushed into a war with the US, involving all of the ME is to their advantage 'cause it will bring them a massive PR boost, and a whole host of foreign supporters with combat experience. In any case, Iran's not gonna leave the GCC in peace if they are in the process of being destroyed. They will attack pretty much all countries west and south of them.

It's simple, really. Any country that chooses to fight alongside Israel and the US, ie, the GCC, will become an enemy of many Muslims all over the world.

And you can bet there will be Russian, N. Korean and Chinese mercenary presence to contend with. Worst case, these countries will arm Iran the same way Ukraine has been.

Ayatollahs power is weak and so are their military the only thing to hit are their ballistic missile hideouts and nuke program which are underground and can be hit many times by US bombers carrying 30k lbs MOP bomb. Ayatollahs and Quds are in a catch 20. If they hide from US bombing their power is pretty much gone and folks will revolt if they don't hide many of them will be killed weakening their already weak power they hold.

You can't defeat an army from the air, that's been clear since the 90s. An air force's purpose is to destroy the future, not the present. The army destroys the present, and an air force can only help in the process.

You are underestimating the hold the Iranians have over their people. Especially when Western mass media will start demonizing Iranians for being Iranians. It's the same reason why Putin has so much domestic support.
 
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Hamas military tactics:

1. Attack civilians.
2. Hide behind civilians.
3. Hide behind Western humanity.
4. Laugh behind their backs.
5. Plan next step 1.
 
You need to unclogged that noggin of yours about US troops being needed for a US defense of Taiwan because it does not you need to stop telling yourself that it does. A Taiwan conflict USN will have 2 possibly 3 CVN's and their escorts and will also have 2 LHD's carrying 20 F-35Bs Japanese warships will incorporate themselves with US fleet the same with Ozzie ships. USAF at worst will be able to have 2-3 squadrons (18-24 per squadron) of F-22's AND F-35's on Okinawa and surrounding Islands. Philippines would love and will host US forces like tankers and AWACS so the what is needed for a conflict with China has been taken into consideration of what will be used and can be used... meaning no troops!

As for middle east conflict the US has never participated in a middle east war where Israel was involved. If Iran attacks Israel, Israel doesn't need our troops as you saw the weeks that followed October 7th war US sent 2 CVN battle groups and non carrier task force to the region when it was thought hezbollah/Iran was going to get involved when Israel was ready for its ground war. Even the Euro navies got involved but NO US TROOPS! USAF had assets in Cyprus and surrounding region.

Even if Iran attacks US bases the response is not going to be invasion but an air pounding unlike Iran has ever seen. Every strategic importance that Iran holds dear will be gone including their nuke program and everything related.

Something happens in Ukraine where it escalates the Euros, except the Krauts, can handle it with the handful of USAF squadrons that are already there. Don't let articles deceive you it's meant for psyops against our enemy and congress to keep feeding the MIC. Gotta have a boogieman all the time ready to destroy the US and her allies or part of their budget wont be justified.
The truth about Taiwan conflict is that China is planning for an amphibious assault since its goal is capturing Taiwan. And boots on ground will be needed. Taiwan has great civil defence program and a great many people it can call upon but lets face it. This is China we are talking about and Taiwan has only this much room to retreat when things that hard. Sooner than the later, American boots will be needed on the ground in Taiwan.

And thats where @randomradio 's point about US vulnerability in military becomes very pertinent.

US will not be able to defend Taiwan from China without putting substential boots on Taiwanese ground.
Hamas military tactics:

1. Attack civilians.
2. Hide behind civilians.
3. Hide behind Western humanity.
4. Laugh behind their backs.
5. Plan next step 1.
Remind yourself of the same next time you come across Khalistani and Kashmiri *censored*s. They all are cut from the same cloth of terrorism.
 
The truth about Taiwan conflict is that China is planning for an amphibious assault since its goal is capturing Taiwan. And boots on ground will be needed. Taiwan has great civil defence program and a great many people it can call upon but lets face it. This is China we are talking about and Taiwan has only this much room to retreat when things that hard. Sooner than the later, American boots will be needed on the ground in Taiwan.

And thats where @randomradio 's point about US vulnerability in military becomes very pertinent.

US will not be able to defend Taiwan from China without putting substential boots on Taiwanese ground.

Before any shot is fired there will be weeks maybe couple months of preparation/deployment of chinese military to china's eastern staging areas unless china makes this just a missile, naval, and air war which then US and Taiwan will have weeks. Chicoms are only going to have 5-7 airbases to use in any Taiwan attack and they are in range of Taiwan's cruise missiles. Just imagine the tons of aircraft at these airbases with the fuel and ammo storage all just waiting to get hit. As for chicom navy they too are in peril especially their naval bases which again are all in range of Taiwan's cruise missiles.

Taiwan's western coast is a very high altitude coast giving Taiwan anti ship radar a much longer range look compared to if they were at sea level so chicom warships will not be able to be in line of sight or they are going to be targets. You see an invasion of Taiwan is a mammoth undertaking and so is just attacking Taiwan with just missiles and aircraft they won't be able to hide it from US ISR and Taiwan ISR.

To me the chicom military is no different than Russian military pre Ukraine invasion. Before Russia invaded only a fool thought Russia wasn't going to accomplish its mission of taking eastern Ukraine including the capital. Ukraine had months of warning by the US and US knew the exact date of the Russian attack. Also Russians have been taking part in low intensity combat in Syria and in Donbas before invasion and now look at them.... yet we're supposed to believe the chicoms are going to be able to pull off a massive invasion against a modern military with teeth in a combine arms way under high-tech conditions without combat experience..? Come on man!

You can bet before any missiles are fired at Taiwan the US will have 2-3 carriers already in the area including 3-4 USAF squadrons at Okinawa which is 380 miles to Taipei.

I sometimes wonder how stupid Zelenski was to not heed US warning about Russia's invasion. Ukraine could have dug up trenches mined Crimean border which is a choke point and all the other invasion routes deploying arty and rockets but instead he decided to play the it's not happening game. Or imagine Ukraine having just half of Taiwan's military capability it is very likely Russia would have never invaded. A roaming Patriot battery has pretty much closed off the south eastern front air space of Ukraine from the top 3 air force in the world. The same will happen to chicom air force especially when you have US Burkes with SM-6's with F-35's, F-18E's, F-15E's and F-22's for aircover.
 
The truth about Taiwan conflict is that China is planning for an amphibious assault since its goal is capturing Taiwan. And boots on ground will be needed. Taiwan has great civil defence program and a great many people it can call upon but lets face it. This is China we are talking about and Taiwan has only this much room to retreat when things that hard. Sooner than the later, American boots will be needed on the ground in Taiwan.

And thats where @randomradio 's point about US vulnerability in military becomes very pertinent.

US will not be able to defend Taiwan from China without putting substential boots on Taiwanese ground.

Evacuating the citizens will be a herculean effort too. Most of them will be stuck on the island.

Remind yourself of the same next time you come across Khalistani and Kashmiri *censored*s. They all are cut from the same cloth of terrorism.

@BMD doesn't realize that with all dem racist Brits voting their savior Sunak out will bring in Labour to power and in turn an endless stream of illegal immigrants carrying with them the dreams of Sharia. They will all start coming in cities aptly named "mouths."
 
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so whats the difference between west & hamas ?
If we we the same as Hamas, everyone in Gaza would have been killed off already. And many other places too. Afghanistan would have been very easy with Hamas tactics. Just kill everybody and eventually you'll find the Taliban.
@BMD doesn't realize that with all dem racist Brits voting their savior Sunak out will bring in Labour to power and in turn an endless stream of illegal immigrants carrying with them the dreams of Sharia. They will all start coming in cities aptly named "mouths."
Tories will likely struggle this time anyway because they've been in 14 years but everyone knows what Labour's immigration policies are, pretty much open door.

As regards Gaza, why the f*ck sould be take refugees from there, when even Egypt and Jordan right next door won't? They can dig supply tunnels but they're not very good at supplying asylum.
 
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As I was expecting the US ISR can detect mobile missile movement and electronic chatter that comes with any military moves including moving VIP's to secure locations. Point trying to make is the US will know when china has decided to attack Taiwan with Ballistic and cruise missiles alone. If Houthis are also moving missiles into position to synchronize a launch with Iran US ISR is likely also detecting it and when it comes to Houthis the US should be blowing up their missile launchers.
 
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