Jammu & Kashmir live updates: GOI remove all provisions of Article 370

Might be 26/11 redux

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Believe me if they do 26/11 redux on us. Then we will do 1971 redux for sure...
 
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Tochka missiles are a stopgap until sufficient numbers of prahaar and nirbhay enter service.These would be acquired from russian army reserves and are quite cheap.

The fact is pakistan army operates 2 babur missile brigades as its standoff capability.It will take us until 2022 to get the defense grid online with mrsam and s400 ,right now only mumbai and jamnagar under the barak 8 cover of kolkatas are protected. Rest dependant on spyder,akash cover is limited to few airbases.Our conventional standoff capability(non aircraft) is limited to 4 brahmos regiments,one of which is in NE. While brahmos is a better missile than the babur its also more expensive,and currently our land based brahmos numbers are only slightly higher than baburs.Add to this the brahmos on ships and klubs on kilo subs.The 200 air launched brahmos have begun production only.The prithvis are part of strategic forces command and nuclear capable and their movement could cause international panic,so they are avoided.

Point is tochkas are not being bought for cross loc escalation.They are being bought for a qatl ki raat kind of scenario.If after a terror attack we have to repeat balakot and an air skirmish happens,pakistan would rely upon baburs for standoff capability against our airbases.Right now number of baburs are only slightly less than land based brahmos(350-400 approx),and nirbhay and prahar still not inducted.Having 250 tochkas decisively turns the standoff capability in such a scenario in our favour in numbers and act as stopgap until nirbhay and prahaar take over.These would free up closer range targets ,while deep strikes would remain with brahmos.Tochka also has double the warhead weight of brahmos as well as cluster capability.So my understanding is the tochkas are for a qatl ki raat style shootout scenario,not everyday loc escalation.
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Isn't it strange that Tochka purchase is announced by Babaji and not by anyone else? It's not purchasing artillery shells it's a ballistic missile, it's big item yet Baba is the orignal source of this!

Ofcourse this is all assuming the news is true..which is doubtful.But then again doval is in russia.and baba is his man.Lets see.I personally would have prefered kalibr missiles..but those are not cheap.
 
I don't really comment on such topics but the news on tochkas is simply ludicrous

In the first place Tochkas were the inspiration behind the Prithvi missiles but notwithstanding that fact

Why buy a system when you have a comparatively better system interms of guidance , choice of payloads , increased range , a well established logistic , test and maintenance trail , a well established command and control for the same , a well established SOP for deployment , pre firing test & check procedures , weapon release protocols for the same ?

And that too for few numbers , is it really worth the effort interms of required investment be it training of human resource , requisition of resources in support of the same , costs incurred , investments in the maintenance and logistic chain , time spend operationalizing it etc ?

No offense but It reminds me of the Pakistans and the excitement over 250 million dollar F16s

Also AFAIK considerable no of older Prithivi missiles have be relifed , upgraded and geared towards conventional roles
 
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FATF blacklists Pakistan by Asia-Pacific group - congrats IK you have been our best agent. You retirement home is confirmed
I love this NAYA Pakistan
 
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4 out of 5 P5 members had to issue public statement against UN informal consultation and it's portrayal by China and Pakistan.

How does it feel to get snubbed by everyone Dear China? Will you ever act as a credible nation? 1.35 billion people living under your name, have just a tiny bit class.

And Pakistan how does it feel to get snubbed by Sri Lanka and even Maldives? Any country, even Turkey gave a formal statement supporting your stand?
 
SSGN to be precise and why wouldn't they? They want to do small scale assault all over IB.
If we get any intelligence on possible ops , we should set an ambush and capture them alive of possible
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4 out of 5 P5 members had to issue public statement against UN informal consultation and it's portrayal by China and Pakistan.

How does it feel to get snubbed by everyone Dear China? Will you ever act as a credible nation? 1.35 billion people living under your name, have just a tiny bit class.

And Pakistan how does it feel to get snubbed by Sri Lanka and even Maldives? Any country, even Turkey gave a formal statement supporting your stand?
Oh no no ummah brother Turkey's youth associations are planning protests in Istanbul and Ankara , end of endia , Sultan Erdogan will save the ummah
While they continue to oppress Kurds
 
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Tochka missiles are a stopgap until sufficient numbers of prahaar and nirbhay enter service.These would be acquired from russian army reserves and are quite cheap.

The fact is pakistan army operates 2 babur missile brigades as its standoff capability.It will take us until 2022 to get the defense grid online with mrsam and s400 ,right now only mumbai and jamnagar under the barak 8 cover of kolkatas are protected. Rest dependant on spyder,akash cover is limited to few airbases.Our conventional standoff capability(non aircraft) is limited to 4 brahmos regiments,one of which is in NE. While brahmos is a better missile than the babur its also more expensive,and currently our land based brahmos numbers are only slightly higher than baburs.Add to this the brahmos on ships and klubs on kilo subs.The 200 air launched brahmos have begun production only.The prithvis are part of strategic forces command and nuclear capable and their movement could cause international panic,so they are avoided.

Point is tochkas are not being bought for cross loc escalation.They are being bought for a qatl ki raat kind of scenario.If after a terror attack we have to repeat balakot and an air skirmish happens,pakistan would rely upon baburs for standoff capability against our airbases.Right now number of baburs are only slightly less than land based brahmos(350-400 approx),and nirbhay and prahar still not inducted.Having 250 tochkas decisively turns the standoff capability in such a scenario in our favour in numbers and act as stopgap until nirbhay and prahaar take over.These would free up closer range targets ,while deep strikes would remain with brahmos.Tochka also has double the warhead weight of brahmos as well as cluster capability.So my understanding is the tochkas are for a qatl ki raat style shootout scenario,not everyday loc escalation.

India has no plan to operate Tochka. Where did this story come from? It's an obsolete missile anyway. Even the Russians are replacing it with Iskander.

Anyway, MRSAM has been in operation in India since 2016. I think you got confused with the army's MRSAM project which will start deliveries only next year.

We will use ballistic missiles on Pakistan only during times of war, not now.
 
Back to back Friday blockbusters for Pakistan:

1.UN exposes Pak hypocrisy on religious minorities
2.Lanka exposes Pak lies on J&K
3.UN rejects Pak demand to remove
#priyankachopra
4.Pak on "enhanced FATF blacklist"
5.Pak ploy to use Afghan terrorists at LoC out,rattled PM tweets :D
 
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Back to back Friday blockbusters for Pakistan:

1.UN exposes Pak hypocrisy on religious minorities
2.Lanka exposes Pak lies on J&K
3.UN rejects Pak demand to remove
#priyankachopra
4.Pak on "enhanced FATF blacklist"
5.Pak ploy to use Afghan terrorists at LoC out,rattled PM tweets :D
After Ummah ka chumma, now even Jumma has deserted Pakistan. They should know that after America, now even Allah does not care for them.