Kashmir : Counter Terror Operation Updates and Discussions
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IA found it fairly straightforward to distinguish between groups of experienced militants, usually foreign, and the poorly trained, inexperienced locals. Experienced militants, especially those who have survived previous firefights had learnt to keep their calm and would constantly switch position in firefights. This impeded progress of own troops as we could never be sure where they were, making it difficult to assault and/or pin them down, especially in urban terrain with narrow gullys and constrained backyards where you could be zeroed in without any space for cover by someone in a window on the first/second floor of a house you havent cleared. It was a nasty, unnerving feeling taking position in those cramped alleys staring at the windows overlooking you. Inexperienced militants would often just freeze in firefights or in bravado keep firing from same position, giving away their position. They were easier to deal with.
Till mid 2000s there would invariably be an experienced guy accompanying the local ones, like an NCO of sorts, to direct them under fire and get them to execute the basics correctly. But nearly all of them were killed by end 2009-10, and they couldn't find replacements to make good the losses as fewer and fewer militants were successfully crossing over and even fewer were surviving their first encounters with IA. There were also more well trained locals then with training in POK, all of whom are now dead with nearly no equivalent replacements. Now the locals have nearly no training, and the foreigners dont have much confidence in the locals wrt combat. There are still attempts to ensure a senior guy leads every team, but such members are hard to find and they are better off in a strike team. As such these local boys are often nothing more than lambs in a slaughter.
Few captured militants have actually commented on these aspects when caught. One militant that was part of a group of 4 (?) (three untrained fresh locals and him) lamented that the new locals without any training didnt even know how to shoot or take positions, let alone engage in a gun battle. The three were killed. He managed to escape then. He baically said the locals stood no chance and cursed the ISI for sending these guys to their deaths.
Very interesting, thanks for sharing ground level reality. By the way I wanted to ask why does the IA return the bodies of terrorists which is used as propoganda, Can't they simply say unidentified militant and bury there body in unmarked graves. It doesn't have to be official, just do it covertly on case by case basis for each terrorist where they know they can get away with it easily. Where they can't, return there bodies.
News coming in that they are all safe, official announcement still awaited. Don't know why you need to send forces inside the house, just blow up the damn house.
So the "Shur-jee-kal" ishtrike made no difference?
The sooner India realizes that Kashmir freedom movement is an indigenous movement, the better.
The sooner India realizes that Kashmir freedom movement is an indigenous movement, the better.
Did any responsible authority said that surgical strikes would bring an end to this Pak sponsored terrorism?? Well I m not sure. But one thing I m assured of is that Surgical strikes have given you Pakistanis nightmares...
And regarding freedom of Kashmir, in past 70 years you weren't able to get a single inch of Kashmir, neither you will be able to do so in next 700 years!!! (If Pakistan stays as a nation for that long
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When are goatlovers going to try the next Pulwama or 26/11 ? There's no better time for shahadat than Ramadan. But you already know that.
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side effects of surgical strike, disconnected incoherent rambling.
Take care dont lose yourself mentally, its been more than 50 years and nothing has changed. Nothing will change in the future as well.