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Is it because of this?


No relation. Ka-226T is for the IAF and IA.

MH-60, NUH and NMRH are for the IN.
 
Not just 1 squadron, but all the two Mirage squadrons (battle axes and Tigers) are based out of Gwalior.

But this is a detachment in Bamrauli.
Really?
Bamrauli usually bases Hawk trainers and Jaguars. Great news if true. Would be pleasure to watch LCA dancing above the terrace. Hawks Buzzing is almost routine there , mostly solo sometimes in groups of two or three.
 
Damn went their the last few pages of IAF chronicles...

How late can we be.. SP16 itself a year late.
And all talks of kaveri... Now nowhere it's gone..
We were talking about Snecma help since a decade...
We could had a engine by now...
 
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Damn went their the last few pages of IAF chronicles...

How late can we be.. SP16 itself a year late.
And all talks of kaveri... Now nowhere it's gone..
We were talking about Snecma help since a decade...
We could had a engine by now...
You need to follow the official sources not the Twitter/youtube hype otherwise one will always have wrong information/perception.
The only engine development we are doing right now is for Ghatak and money has also already been alloted for the same. Source : Mod annual report.
MOD has asked DRDO to prove itself here and then go for kaveri class engines which is a very good thing otherwise we would be in the same quagmire in AMCA as we were for LCA.
 
Deploying Mk1 along with Mig21 to intercept F16 and Jf17, can it successfully thwart them back??
Probably yes. Tejas MK1a with its Elta- ELM - 2052 AESA can see a clean BLK 52 at a distance of 200 km. with BLK 52 carrying weapons it will be even more.... around 250 km .
it will see F 16 first and fire first.
AN/APG-68(V)9 will only see a clean Tejas at 60 km and a loaded Tejas no more than 100km at best case scenario.
since ELM-2052 is an AESA with LPI compare to AN/APG - 68(v)9 PDR it has a least chance of getting jammed among two and better chance of detecting its adversary.
Coming to Jf-17 BLK 3. it will be detected at upward of 200km in clean configuration and upwards of 250 km loaded same as F -16 BLK 52.
kLJ - 7A AESA has a stated range of 170km against a 3m2 target.... it will see clean Tejas at 110km and loaded Tejas at 160km at best. It's performance will degrade at higher altitude since it's air cooled and I don't think it can utilize full potential of claimed range of PL -15 which itself a very hyped up BVRAAM.
Tejas will see first shoot first. if Pakistan dont upgrade there BLK 52 in coming years it's basically game over for them.
 
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Probably yes. Tejas MK1a with its Elta- ELM - 2052 AESA can see a clean BLK 52 at a distance of 200 km. with BLK 52 carrying weapons it will be even more.... around 250 km .
it will see F 16 first and fire first.
AN/APG-68(V)9 will only see a clean Tejas at 60 km and a loaded Tejas no more than 100km at best case scenario.
since ELM-2052 is an AESA with LPI compare to AN/APG - 68(v)9 PDR it has a least chance of getting jammed among two and better chance of detecting its adversary.
Coming to Jf-17 BLK 3. it will be detected at upward of 200km in clean configuration and upwards of 250 km loaded same as F -16 BLK 52.
kLJ - 7A AESA has a stated range of 170km against a 3m2 target.... it will see clean Tejas at 110km and loaded Tejas at 160km at best. It's performance will degrade at higher altitude since it's air cooled and I don't think it can utilize full potential of claimed range of PL -15 which itself a very hyped up BVRAAM.
Tejas will see first shoot first. if Pakistan dont upgrade there BLK 52 in coming years it's basically game over for them.
Things does not happen that simply. Have you taken in to consideration AWACS, missile range, aircraft altitude? On feb 27 last year, Abhi's Mig was not visible to f16, it was Awacs which vectored the jet in firing position. Things are much more complex that what we anticipate. Probably @Falcon will be most appropriate member to enlighten us..
 
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Things does not happen that simply. Have you taken in to consideration AWACS, missile range, aircraft altitude? On feb 27 last year, Abhi's Mig was not visible to f16, it was Awacs which vectored the jet in firing position. Things are much more complex that what we anticipate. Probably @Falcon will be most appropriate member to enlighten us..
you are right...many other factors will play a huge role from EW to terrain to pilot skills no doubt. Let's discuss some point you mentioned.

•AWACS can vector any plane on both sides but it's fighter jet own radar which is going to provide firing solution in the end unless you possess significant CEC capability. AWACS can not provide firing solution from longer ranges even if they do have such capability.

• PL -12 and AMRAAM 120c5 is inferior to both Derby ER and ASTRA mk1.
PL -15 is typical Chinese hyped up BVRAAM. Astra MK2 with 200+km range will be superior period.

• Elta-ELM-AESA is liquid cooled while bander kLJ-7a AESA and AN/APG - 68(v)9 are air cooled radar which will degrade there performance at higher altitude.

•if PAF don't upgrade there BLK 52 in future with AESA it's basically game over for them. Tejas will eat both BLK 52 and Bandar alive in air combat.
 
you are right...many other factors will play a huge role from EW to terrain to pilot skills no doubt. Let's discuss some point you mentioned.

•AWACS can vector any plane on both sides but it's fighter jet own radar which is going to provide firing solution in the end unless you possess significant CEC capability. AWACS can not provide firing solution from longer ranges even if they do have such capability.

• PL -12 and AMRAAM 120c5 is inferior to both Derby ER and ASTRA mk1.
PL -15 is typical Chinese hyped up BVRAAM. Astra MK2 with 200+km range will be superior period.

• Elta-ELM-AESA is liquid cooled while bander kLJ-7a AESA and AN/APG - 68(v)9 are air cooled radar which will degrade there performance at higher altitude.

•if PAF don't upgrade there BLK 52 in future with AESA it's basically game over for them. Tejas will eat both BLK 52 and Bandar alive in air combat.
SFDR based on CEC will totally game changer, it totally changes the balance of power matrix, not only Pakistani front but also the Chinese front.
 
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Probably yes. Tejas MK1a with its Elta- ELM - 2052 AESA can see a clean BLK 52 at a distance of 200 km. with BLK 52 carrying weapons it will be even more.... around 250 km .
it will see F 16 first and fire first.
AN/APG-68(V)9 will only see a clean Tejas at 60 km and a loaded Tejas no more than 100km at best case scenario.
since ELM-2052 is an AESA with LPI compare to AN/APG - 68(v)9 PDR it has a least chance of getting jammed among two and better chance of detecting its adversary.
Coming to Jf-17 BLK 3. it will be detected at upward of 200km in clean configuration and upwards of 250 km loaded same as F -16 BLK 52.
kLJ - 7A AESA has a stated range of 170km against a 3m2 target.... it will see clean Tejas at 110km and loaded Tejas at 160km at best. It's performance will degrade at higher altitude since it's air cooled and I don't think it can utilize full potential of claimed range of PL -15 which itself a very hyped up BVRAAM.
Tejas will see first shoot first. if Pakistan dont upgrade there BLK 52 in coming years it's basically game over for them.

By and large a theoretically correct evaluation.


slim to none chance of that happening. at this point, they belong to the chinese harem.


May not be entirely true. They may get some upgrades.
 
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you are right...many other factors will play a huge role from EW to terrain to pilot skills no doubt. Let's discuss some point you mentioned.

•AWACS can vector any plane on both sides but it's fighter jet own radar which is going to provide firing solution in the end unless you possess significant CEC capability. AWACS can not provide firing solution from longer ranges even if they do have such capability.

Actually no. Link 16 as available with PAF can actually do the above.

1. PL -12 and AMRAAM 120c5 is inferior to both Derby ER and ASTRA mk1.

2. PL -15 is typical Chinese hyped up BVRAAM. Astra MK2 with 200+km range will be superior period.

For point #1 - how?

For point #2 - Astra Mk 2 is a decade away. That is why I Derby ER is being talked of.
 
Elta-ELM-AESA is liquid cooled while bander kLJ-7a AESA and AN/APG - 68(v)9 are air cooled radar which will degrade there performance at higher altitude.

So why the Migs were at low alt during 27th Feb, if they knew that flying high will create trouble for PAF. Or is it because there were commands or no time to maintain FL400
not only Pakistani front but also the Chinese front.

I was in a conception that if you can beat PAF you can certainly beat the PLAAF

By and large a theoretically correct evaluation.

What about practically? Taking altitude, payload and everything in account?