LCA Tejas Mk1 & Mk1A - News and discussions
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according to vayu magazine reason for the delay in foc is inability of the aircraft to reach mach 1.6 which is the max speed of the aircrAFT
and other things ( not related to the FOC) stated by the author;
usage rate works out to be approx 85 hrs /aircraft /year
whereas for jf 17 it is 126hrs/aircraft/year
apart from this he has also slammed the foor surface finish of the aircraft which he has discovered on the upper mid fuselage /wingroot area
the author name is prof pradyut das
ppl who are expert on this subject kindly shed some light
and other things ( not related to the FOC) stated by the author;
usage rate works out to be approx 85 hrs /aircraft /year
whereas for jf 17 it is 126hrs/aircraft/year
apart from this he has also slammed the foor surface finish of the aircraft which he has discovered on the upper mid fuselage /wingroot area
the author name is prof pradyut das
ppl who are expert on this subject kindly shed some light
Doubtful, actually air chief Dhanoa already stated FOC will be achieved only by 2019.
FOC named buffalo is once again going inside water.
It's November and still no news about FOC dates. I think there is some fundamental design flaws in LCA and if it's true then I would advice MoD to throw everyone at ADA in the ocean ASAP.
They are disgrace to the human society.
It's November and still no news about FOC dates. I think there is some fundamental design flaws in LCA and if it's true then I would advice MoD to throw everyone at ADA in the ocean ASAP.
They are disgrace to the human society.
With the deadline for attaining the Final Operational Clearance (FOC) for the Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) Tejas fast approaching, the Aeronautical Development Agency is confident of meeting its target.
The FOC compliant Tejas would incorporate Beyond Visual Range (BVR) missiles, improved and better stand-off weapons and air-to-air refueling capability.
LCA TEJAS WILL MEET DEADLINE
The FOC compliant Tejas would incorporate Beyond Visual Range (BVR) missiles, improved and better stand-off weapons and air-to-air refueling capability.
LCA TEJAS WILL MEET DEADLINE
There is really nothing stopping ADA's December deadline though.
But the contract should be between IAF and RoE, not IAF and HAL.
I doubt there's any truth to that.
M2000 should be the benchmark, not JF-17. JF-17 is still a Chinese aircraft.
Would help to know which serial number he saw.
LCA Tejas will meet deadline
HAL says deadline for FOC would've to be extended to the next year.
ADA insists it'd meet the Dec deadline for FOC. However, they haven't specified the year. Go figure.
HAL says deadline for FOC would've to be extended to the next year.
ADA insists it'd meet the Dec deadline for FOC. However, they haven't specified the year. Go figure.
There is always only one deadline. So obviously 2018.
Anyway, it looks like they will manage to stick to the deadline. Even if there is a delay, it won't be more than a few months. All the necessary tests to achieve FOC are already complete. Further development can be taken up while the jet is in production.
HAL's whining because they want the IAF to order 40 more MKI.
Just to be clear, HAL are the production partner, ADA is the entity overseeing FOC so I'd take ADA's word over HAL's on this subject.
Either way Dec 2018 or Jan/Feb/March/April 2019 makes very very little difference to any ongoing efforts on the production side.
I think you're wrong out here. While you're right that a few months delay would hardly make a difference to the overall program, it's the credibility of the ADA which is at stake here. One more delay & they'd be the laughing stock of the entire world. I sincerely hope & wish they stick to the original deadline.
Too late for that, mate.
ADA and deadlines are like oil and water, fire and ice, you and GND.
Credibility? What credibility? ADA and credibility are acronym so never mind.
Laughing stock? Oh they and we already are thanks to chalta hai attitude of reservation quota chaap parasite idiot government employees at HAL and ADA..
HAL ramps up Tejas production
Anantha Krishnan MNovember 11, 2018 05:01 PM IST
The assembly line of HAL's LCA Division is abuzz with activities with fighters till SP-16 under various stages of equipping. Photo Onmanorama.
Bengaluru: The activities at LCA Tejas Division of Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd (HAL) have reached a fever pitch. The engineers, designers and the shop floor crew are committed to beat the March, 2019, deadline and deliver the remaining five Tejas fighters to the Indian Air Force (IAF).
The IAF pilots from Flying Daggers are warming up to ferry out a new fighter from Tejas production line to AFS Sulur, the home of No 45 Squadron, Flying Daggers.
The squadron will get one more flying machine in two weeks after the Test Pilots complete the mandatory Customer Acceptance Flight (CAF).
Tejas fighters SP-12 and SP-14 being readied at HAL's LCA Division in Bengaluru. Photo Onmanorama.
The fighters from SP-12 to SP-16, the remaining from the Initial Operational Clearance (IOC) block are all on the final equipping phase. While SP-12, SP-14 and SP-16 are with the LCA Tejas Division, SP-13 and SP-15 are with the second production line at the Aircraft Division.
This is the first time ever that the Tejas production line at HAL is witnessing so much of activities. There is a renewed energy seen all over and better synergy between all the stakeholders.
The recent review of the project by Dr Ajay Kumar, Secretary (Defence Production), is said to have given clarity to all stakeholders to overcome the bottlenecks and to find a way forward for stepped-up Tejas production. His interactions and assurances seem to have boosted the morale of team HAL.
“The production rate of IOC fighters has been really ramped up at the LCA Tejas Division. Starting from one aircraft in 2015-16, it has been gradually increased to two and five aircraft in the next two production years. During 2018-19 fiscal, we are confident of delivering eight aircraft. We had our share of issues in the past and all that is now sorted out,” said an official.
The SP-12 fighter is ready to undergo a full performance EGR (engine ground run) signalling that it will be ready to kiss the skies for the first time in a week.
Tejas fighter SP-13 at advanced stages of equipping at HAL's second production line at Aircraft Division. Photo Onmanorama.
HAL officials say that SP-13 and SP-15 will be ready for maiden flights in December. The Aircraft Division will hand over these two fighters to the Tejas Division after conducting the HSTT (high-speed taxi trials).
Tejas fighter SP-15 being readied at HAL's Aircraft Division. Photo Onmanorama.
What clicked for LCA Division
After having taken the hit from all corners for poor delivery of Tejas, HAL handpicked some of the best brains and made them part of programme at the LCA Division. Huge strides have been made now on improving the supply chain management and most importantly the follow-up mechanisms.
The man who heads the LCA Division P G Yogindra, an Executive Director, is said to have a played stellar role at the Hawk assembly lines, ensuring deliveries ahead of the schedule. His expertise in supply chain management is coming handy for the Tejas project now.
The review mechanism, delegation of responsibilities, increased interaction with vendors and fast-tracking of part supplies have propelled the Tejas production plans.
As a result, the assembly cycle time and waiting period for parts have been reduced – an accusation often HAL faced in the past. “We have made all efforts to ramp up the production in phases. Now, we are able to source items in advance. The front fuselage structure of Tejas now takes 53 days to be completed and this used to take four to five months in the past. Various teams have sat down and brain-stormed and we have found many answers,” said an official.
HAL is awaiting a major milestone when L&T Aerospace delivers the wings of Tejas. This it says will be a major step in Make in India and its partnership with a private industry. The last fighter in the IOC series SP-16 will be the first to be integrated with the wings from L&T.
FOC fighters join the party
The team at LCA Tejas Division is excited as they have begun the preparations for producing the Final Operational Clearance (FOC) variants of Tejas. While the FOC announcement is expected next month, the division has already begun advanced stages of production of 10 sets of detail parts.
The assembly of two sets of air fame have already started for SP-21 and SP-22. The parts for SP-23 and SP-24 will be up by the first week of December.
The provisional DAL (Drawing Applicability List) for FOC fighters were released in October, 2017, and the amended one in August, 2018. DAL is the standard of preparation for production that forms the basis for the final product to be delivered to the customer.
“Structural assembly of major modules such as front fuselage, (FF), centre fuselage (CF) and rear fuselage (RF) of SP-21 onwards are already under progress, in the structural assembly hanger of LCA Tejas Division. Incidentally, the floor assembly of SP-21 FF Stage-1 has been provisionally cleared by qualifying authorities which is a significant milestone towards our FOC missions,” added the official.
HAL says that the first FOC fighter (SP-21) will fly out by October, 2019. It is hopeful of creating a new benchmark by delivering 16 aircraft during 2019-20 fiscal.
As reported by Onmanorama earlier, IAF and HAL seem to have ironed out their differences over Tejas trainers.
It is expected that the DAL or the build-standard of eight trainers in the FOC version will be now be ready by February, 2019, and the first plane will be likely available to IAF by September, 2021.
The 1,000-plus workforce of LCA Tejas Division probably is aware that the future of HAL is currently hinged on to their performances. A plane not wanted by many till recently has suddenly become the hope for a company, its user and the nation.
The upgraded versions of Tejas set to fly out in the future will be a testimony to the belief that making is better than buying.
HAL ramps up Tejas production | HAL | production | Tejas
Anantha Krishnan MNovember 11, 2018 05:01 PM IST
Bengaluru: The activities at LCA Tejas Division of Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd (HAL) have reached a fever pitch. The engineers, designers and the shop floor crew are committed to beat the March, 2019, deadline and deliver the remaining five Tejas fighters to the Indian Air Force (IAF).
The IAF pilots from Flying Daggers are warming up to ferry out a new fighter from Tejas production line to AFS Sulur, the home of No 45 Squadron, Flying Daggers.
The squadron will get one more flying machine in two weeks after the Test Pilots complete the mandatory Customer Acceptance Flight (CAF).
The fighters from SP-12 to SP-16, the remaining from the Initial Operational Clearance (IOC) block are all on the final equipping phase. While SP-12, SP-14 and SP-16 are with the LCA Tejas Division, SP-13 and SP-15 are with the second production line at the Aircraft Division.
This is the first time ever that the Tejas production line at HAL is witnessing so much of activities. There is a renewed energy seen all over and better synergy between all the stakeholders.
The recent review of the project by Dr Ajay Kumar, Secretary (Defence Production), is said to have given clarity to all stakeholders to overcome the bottlenecks and to find a way forward for stepped-up Tejas production. His interactions and assurances seem to have boosted the morale of team HAL.
“The production rate of IOC fighters has been really ramped up at the LCA Tejas Division. Starting from one aircraft in 2015-16, it has been gradually increased to two and five aircraft in the next two production years. During 2018-19 fiscal, we are confident of delivering eight aircraft. We had our share of issues in the past and all that is now sorted out,” said an official.
The SP-12 fighter is ready to undergo a full performance EGR (engine ground run) signalling that it will be ready to kiss the skies for the first time in a week.
HAL officials say that SP-13 and SP-15 will be ready for maiden flights in December. The Aircraft Division will hand over these two fighters to the Tejas Division after conducting the HSTT (high-speed taxi trials).
What clicked for LCA Division
After having taken the hit from all corners for poor delivery of Tejas, HAL handpicked some of the best brains and made them part of programme at the LCA Division. Huge strides have been made now on improving the supply chain management and most importantly the follow-up mechanisms.
The man who heads the LCA Division P G Yogindra, an Executive Director, is said to have a played stellar role at the Hawk assembly lines, ensuring deliveries ahead of the schedule. His expertise in supply chain management is coming handy for the Tejas project now.
The review mechanism, delegation of responsibilities, increased interaction with vendors and fast-tracking of part supplies have propelled the Tejas production plans.
As a result, the assembly cycle time and waiting period for parts have been reduced – an accusation often HAL faced in the past. “We have made all efforts to ramp up the production in phases. Now, we are able to source items in advance. The front fuselage structure of Tejas now takes 53 days to be completed and this used to take four to five months in the past. Various teams have sat down and brain-stormed and we have found many answers,” said an official.
HAL is awaiting a major milestone when L&T Aerospace delivers the wings of Tejas. This it says will be a major step in Make in India and its partnership with a private industry. The last fighter in the IOC series SP-16 will be the first to be integrated with the wings from L&T.
FOC fighters join the party
The team at LCA Tejas Division is excited as they have begun the preparations for producing the Final Operational Clearance (FOC) variants of Tejas. While the FOC announcement is expected next month, the division has already begun advanced stages of production of 10 sets of detail parts.
The assembly of two sets of air fame have already started for SP-21 and SP-22. The parts for SP-23 and SP-24 will be up by the first week of December.
The provisional DAL (Drawing Applicability List) for FOC fighters were released in October, 2017, and the amended one in August, 2018. DAL is the standard of preparation for production that forms the basis for the final product to be delivered to the customer.
“Structural assembly of major modules such as front fuselage, (FF), centre fuselage (CF) and rear fuselage (RF) of SP-21 onwards are already under progress, in the structural assembly hanger of LCA Tejas Division. Incidentally, the floor assembly of SP-21 FF Stage-1 has been provisionally cleared by qualifying authorities which is a significant milestone towards our FOC missions,” added the official.
HAL says that the first FOC fighter (SP-21) will fly out by October, 2019. It is hopeful of creating a new benchmark by delivering 16 aircraft during 2019-20 fiscal.
As reported by Onmanorama earlier, IAF and HAL seem to have ironed out their differences over Tejas trainers.
It is expected that the DAL or the build-standard of eight trainers in the FOC version will be now be ready by February, 2019, and the first plane will be likely available to IAF by September, 2021.
The 1,000-plus workforce of LCA Tejas Division probably is aware that the future of HAL is currently hinged on to their performances. A plane not wanted by many till recently has suddenly become the hope for a company, its user and the nation.
The upgraded versions of Tejas set to fly out in the future will be a testimony to the belief that making is better than buying.
HAL ramps up Tejas production | HAL | production | Tejas
