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And why would they buy LCA when they have Mirage-2000 & F-16 in their inventory ? And exactly which version of LCA ?

MK1 : Nobody wants it, not even IAF.
MK1A : Its complete specification are not yet known to public.
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MK2 : Its a future plane which will be history very soon.:cautious:

At most we can sell HAL Dhruv, that's the product HAL has which can be sold or Dornier may be.
 
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Sancho said:
And maybe we can buy back their Mirage 2000-9s instead. 😁
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Pundrick said:
And why would they buy LCA when they have Mirage-2000 & F-16 in their inventory ? And exactly which version of LCA ?

MK1 : Nobody wants it, not even IAF.
MK1A : Its complete specification are not yet known to public.
OR
MK2 : Its a future plane which will be history very soon.:cautious:

At most we can sell HAL Dhruv, that's the product HAL has which can be sold or Dornier may be.
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I feel if India (hal)can plan out a assembly line with UAE for mk1a and engage a Indian private player like L&T it will be win win for India and UAE. I don't expect anything from HAL for export orders but may be possible from a Indian private farm.
 
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And why would they buy LCA when they have Mirage-2000 & F-16 in their inventory ? And exactly which version of LCA ?

MK1 : Nobody wants it, not even IAF.
MK1A : Its complete specification are not yet known to public.
OR
MK2 : Its a future plane which will be history very soon.:cautious:

At most we can sell HAL Dhruv, that's the product HAL has which can be sold or Dornier may be.
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We won't even produce fast enough to allow some jets for exports anyway.
 
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I feel if India (hal)can plan out a assembly line with UAE for mk1a and engage a Indian private player like L&T it will be win win for India and UAE. I don't expect anything from HAL for export orders but may be possible from a Indian private farm.
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Apart of the correct points Pundrick made, there is another more obvious reason why UAE will never get LCA - export restrictions!

A fighter that is filled with Israeli techs and weapons, can't be sold to Arab nations, without Israeli approval, or at least replacement techs and systems.
So unless UAE is looking for a jet trainer below their combat fighters, interest in LCA is a nice political photo opp, just as the site seeing trips LCA made with othe foreign officials. But then again, maybe HAL just showed them the advanced Hawk?
 
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Bharath said:
i believe the only viable and good "exportable" products we made so far are:
Akash
LCH
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Plus Do 228 ( especially the new civil version) and the advanced Hawk. MTA had good export potential, but we missed the chance to be part of that global supply chain.
 
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Apart of the correct points Pundrick made, there is another more obvious reason why UAE will never get LCA - export restrictions!

A fighter that is filled with Israeli techs and weapons, can't be sold to Arab nations, without Israeli approval, or at least replacement techs and systems.
So unless UAE is looking for a jet trainer below their combat fighters, interest in LCA is a nice political photo opp, just as the site seeing trips LCA made with othe foreign officials. But then again, maybe HAL just showed them the advanced Hawk?
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I think India own the technology so if they want to integrate Swedish or french (ew) it's up to them we will be happy to help them on integration from other OEM .The only concern it should run through a private farm not HAL as support services are not good . Israeli are talking with Arab ,in then end it's up to Arab what system they want to integrate.
 
TARGET said:
I feel if India (hal)can plan out a assembly line with UAE for mk1a and engage a Indian private player like L&T it will be win win for India and UAE. I don't expect anything from HAL for export orders but may be possible from a Indian private farm.
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Don't forget the strong link between UAE and Pak......
 
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Sancho said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1052512525869150208
https://twitter.com/x/status/1052512530331918339
https://twitter.com/x/status/1052512532005445632
https://twitter.com/x/status/1052512533741940737
HAL on Twitter
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Is it SP12?
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Bharath said:
i believe the only viable and good "exportable" products we made so far are:
Akash
LCH
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Actually there are quite a few,
If ishapore factory can run some production on 7.62x51N Ishapore SMLE, there is a huge surplus market for it globally, next is the 30 06 SMLE based sporter rifle, it will have a big market as it is the only non mauser action 30 06 rifle in production. OFB also has the rights to make the Browning Hi Power, if it can make a double stack Hi Power and a single stack compact Hi Power in less than $400 msrp, it would have immense export potential.

Prahaar (I forget the export variant name) has potential,

HTT 40 has good export potential for private civilian aircraft market, (especially if they can produce a 4 seater with the same engine)

Kamorta Platform is a formidable platform,

L&T Vikram class OPV is another platform that has export potential.

And then there multiple FAC's that multiple shipyards can offer.

Pinaka MLRS can get buyers if Indian Government would allow export.

and then there a multiple radars and sensor suite that BEL produces that have good export potential .
 
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Bon Plan said:
Don't forget the strong link between UAE and Pak......
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I don’t think we should worry about link between Pakistani and UAE ,if we are planning for Weapons export market we should aware of information leakage .The best part is when Pakistan will know about their junk fighter has zero advantage and they need to upgrade their fighters.India need to push this as we need long term relationship with UAE apart from OIL also we will help them in setting up a assembly plant .
 
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Sathya said:
mk2 has been made into medium weight category .
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like the israelis said about Arjuns, all design is evolutionary. Once you make one platform you c
Sancho said:
Plus Do 228 ( especially the new civil version) and the advanced Hawk. MTA had good export potential, but we missed the chance to be part of that global supply chain.
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are you THE Sancho?
 
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Guynextdoor said:
LCA will follow the same logic of the ALH.
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Sadly LCA didn't followed the ALH logic, otherwise it would had been a success today too.

ALH
- design and development partnership with experienced foreign partners
- off the shelf use of foreign engines, later replaced by a joint development
- off the shelf use of foreign weapons and systems, with the aim to replace them later
- constant learning curve, by improving design and systems


LCA
- limited design involvement of foreign partners in concept only (the whole programme suffers from the design issues)
- off the shelf engine, with the aim to replace it with an own development (failed)
- off the shelf use of weapons and systems, with the aim to replace it with own developments (failed or delayed)
- constant aim to fix problems, to finally meet the original ASR someday (2025 with the MK2)


ALH was developed with logic and by acknowledging own limitations.
LCA was developed with pride only.

ALH is serving the forces and the nation with capability and performance, LCA...?
 
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