Line of Actual Control (LAC) : India & Tibet Border Updates

_Anonymous_ said:
I think you need to wake up & smell the coffee. We aren't getting anymore than the contracted 140 odd M-777s for the time being. With the emphasis on atmanirbharta, you can bet that most of the subsequent orders for such systems will go to Kalyani.
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If goi didn't induct more of these howitzers even after experiencing the recent incidents, i will keep BJP & congress in the same place.
 
Aurora said:
Question is do they have capability to bring all those numbers against us??
Additionally does current geo-political scenario allows them to do so??
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I know about that and it doesn't. But you know it always best to prepare for worse scenarios. And this will become a reality in 1/2 day if they want to or skirmish spread along all lac
. I am pretty sure no country in there immediate neighbourhood poses any danger to them. Japan will not fly plane close to Chinese border if that's what you meant.
 
We should not read too much into the deployment All Along the LAC

In any case HP ,Uttarakhand , Sikkim and Arunachal are going to see monsoon rains in 2 / 3 weeks time

Secondly the Chinese must be expecting Counter attacks in these areas

So they deployed their troops

Why should we fight a defensive war in Ladakh alone , We can also go on the offensive in some places
 
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Abhay rajput said:
I know about that and it doesn't. But you know it always best to prepare for worse scenarios.
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Exactly, but here you are asking to prepare for impossible. Nobody could do that.
Abhay rajput said:
And this will become a reality in 1/2 day if they want to or skirmish spread along all lac
. I am pretty sure no country in there immediate neighbourhood poses any danger to them. Japan will not fly plane close to Chinese border if that's what you meant.
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Come on now, whole world is after China. US ACs are sailing close to Taiwan strait. If and when dragon dares to open any front against any country you will se an united attack against China.
With the help of US you may see even weaker nations like Vietnam and Phillipenes taking offensive action against China.
 
Aurora said:
Exactly, but here you are asking to prepare for impossible. Nobody could do that.

Come on now, whole world is after China. US ACs are sailing close to Taiwan strait. If and when dragon dares to open any front against any country you will se an united attack against China.
With the help of US you may see even weaker nations like Vietnam and Phillipenes taking offensive action against China.
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You guys were telling China has more to lose in an imdo chinese war. USA will lose more in US china war, before dreaming for US armed action on chinese better remember that fact.
USA will never fight chinese till a pearl harbor type attack happen on them.
 
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STEPHEN COHEN said:
We should not read too much into the deployment All Along the LAC

In any case HP ,Uttarakhand , Sikkim and Arunachal are going to see monsoon rains in 2 / 3 weeks time

Secondly the Chinese must be expecting Counter attacks in these areas

So they deployed their troops

Why should we fight a defensive war in Ladakh alone , We can also go on the offensive in some places
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How does monsoon rain, create a problem for the Chinese and not us? And don't the mountains get relatively low rainfall?
 
noksss said:
So ,Muslims and RSS is the counter from the congress politician........................ooops.......ex-armyman for exposing land grabbing under sonia gandhi's rule . Next would be Shukla ji having cow mutra jibes if the BJP MP exposes sonia/Rahul further .

https://twitter.com/x/status/1270914198508236800
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He is a twitter warrior and a faithful piddi of Myeno aunty.
There is a reason our army and airforce was/are in such a mess.
 
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Hydra said:
There are two possibilities
A) the news altogether may be a fabricated one, just like most OSINT reporting.
B) if it is true, it may be sourced from US military arsenal, even OEM will not be able to produce 100 howitzers & 10k high-tech rounds.

And lastly THAAD, we never gonna get without backing of from s400 deal, yeah there may be a slight possibility of USA operating it in india for a short-term.
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This is the time for US to replace Russia and show the potential of THAAD to India. They dont need to ask us to cancel S-400 deal if we have THAAD in India.

Hydra said:
And lastly THAAD, we never gonna get without backing of from s400 deal, yeah there may be a slight possibility of USA operating it in india for a short-term.
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In this scenerio we will get THAAD without even asking for it. Remeber, USA out sources its wars with material support.

Hydra said:
Stop bullshiting about indigenous equipment at the time of emergency. Kalyani gun is not even tested. Have you even saw pic of their product, such a primitive design.
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Kalyani Gun is tested and in case of war even untested guns and equipment is used. Kalyani and Tata between themselves can produce one gun each everyday with just one shift. In emergency they can hit do over six guns everyday. But most importent are the shells. Please read about how Kalyani produced shells for 155mm in extremely short time during kargil.

Abhay rajput said:
But our airforce is no match for Chinese. Our best su30mki can't match Chinese. Even if bvr doesn't matter much in mountains the sheer number they possess will overwhelme our airforce. We have su30mki, mig29upg and m2k totalling more than 400. But they have 450+ Sukhoi copies and 300/400 j10 variants. Not counting bombers on both sides .
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Can you please quote me the origin of your post and thinking.
 
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BlackOpsIndia said:
Beautiful more Air Defence, more weapons, just the kind of thing we need when we don't even have graveyard to bury the corpses due to Corona in national capital.

Priorities!

Few people either due to vested interests in commissions or just plain stupidity may put India few decade back. Once the war start it will become matter of pride for both nations and there will be no stopping till there is some big intervention of third party or without significant damages to both.

Hope better sense prevail.
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BTW I honestly don’t get why are you on a defence forum, when you have such an aversion to war that you want to take chances against chinease.
Also don’t take the news bytes seriously.
Delhi Waqf bord is one of the biggest owner of land in this region.
 
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vstol Jockey said:
This is the time for US to replace Russia and show the potential of THAAD to India. They dont need to ask us to cancel S-400 deal if we have THAAD in India.


In this scenerio we will get THAAD without even asking for it. Remeber, USA out sources its wars with material support.


Kalyani Gun is tested and in case of war even untested guns and equipment is used. Kalyani and Tata between themselves can produce one gun each everyday with just one shift. In emergency they can hit do over six guns everyday. But most importent are the shells. Please read about how Kalyani produced shells for 155mm in extremely short time during kargil.


Can you please quote me the origin of your post and thinking.
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I am talking about kalyani's ulta light howitzer with 39 caliber. Not the atags variant.
 
Hydra said:
I am talking about kalyani's ulta light howitzer with 39 caliber. Not the atags variant.
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FYI, Kalyani has tested even those guns internally to same proofing standards as IA by hiring gun ranges. Plus, Kalyani is marketing proven guns of other manufactureres as its own guns and that includes guns from Denel and Israel.
 
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Hydra said:
You guys were telling China has more to lose in an imdo chinese war. USA will lose more in US china war, before dreaming for US armed action on chinese better remember that fact.
USA will never fight chinese till a pearl harbor type attack happen on them.
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china has trade balance in favor w.r.t both India and USA.

China loses a lot more in a war with USA because that trade balance will be punished with more taxation (As a consequence of war).

also, entire rise of China was funded by US companies. USA companies make their profits selling in USA. if US and China go to war, how man US companies will be welcome in china and of those, how many can sell heir wares in USA? hint: google/twitter are not headquartered in China.
 
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vstol Jockey said:
This is the time for US to replace Russia and show the potential of THAAD to India. They dont need to ask us to cancel S-400 deal if we have THAAD in India.


In this scenerio we will get THAAD without even asking for it. Remeber, USA out sources its wars with material support.


Kalyani Gun is tested and in case of war even untested guns and equipment is used. Kalyani and Tata between themselves can produce one gun each everyday with just one shift. In emergency they can hit do over six guns everyday. But most importent are the shells. Please read about how Kalyani produced shells for 155mm in extremely short time during kargil.


Can you please quote me the origin of your post and thinking.
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I am taking about if conflict/short skimirsh happens our airforce will be at very disadvantage both in terms of technology and numbers. I just hope it didn't end like 2008/2010/2012/2013
 
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