Line of Actual Control (LAC) : India & Tibet Border Updates

I think more escalation will occur.

Discuss idea or put facts rather than showing raw feelings of patriotism
We have been doing that in various forums for days, months, ages. Military, civilian, diplomatic responses and what not. Ultimately it's all for naught if GoI chooses not to confront the interloper at the door and instead tries more talk, talk, talk.

What's the use of putting forth ideas in this kind of response by our govt? I'll do what I can personally, rest I'll have to see GoI's response if they are even serious about hard countering China.
 
From yesterday I have been feeling hopeless at this Govt. First time I voted since I got my voting rights and put my trust in the nationalist plank of BJP. But the deafening, disheartening silence or "restraint" even after our veers were killed has been eating me.

Will we really be doing something? Not just diplomatic charcha and boycott, something to break their noses and their chelas prodding us these days? Or are we seeing more "restraint"?
the fact that the conflict happened - and the Indian resolve to continue to build border infra - itself shows the nationalism of this govt. they dint back out of a fight ever. the mood of the public is firmly with the govt. hardly anyone believes that either the congress or the thirdfront would have shown better resolve. you are free to vote as you like, its a democracy.
 
I very very extremely seriously think that we should not fight with the bro Chinese as biggest beneficiary will by Americaa.
They are evil and forcing two bro countries to fight each other.
#SayNoToWar
WTF, since when Chinese became brother of indians
this slogan of "Hindi chini bhai bhai" was propagated by congress in 1950's, whole idea got killed by china in 1962
so stop this bullshit
the fact that the conflict happened - and the Indian resolve to continue to build border infra - itself shows the nationalism of this govt. they dint back out of a fight ever. the mood of the public is firmly with the govt. hardly anyone believes that either the congress or the thirdfront would have shown better resolve. you are free to vote as you like, its a democracy.
till now the response is adequate, but out intelligence and prior preparation is less supirior than Chinese counter part
sad part is that India can not match military spending of china in coming 2 decades
 
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We have been doing that in various forums for days, months, ages. Military, civilian, diplomatic responses and what not. Ultimately it's all for naught if GoI chooses not to confront the interloper at the door and instead tries more talk, talk, talk.

What's the use of putting forth ideas in this kind of response by our govt? I'll do what I can personally, rest I'll have to see GoI's response if they are even serious about hard countering China.
Putting strategy increases public knowledge and discussion gives multiple options to put on social media
however putting feeling makes this forum as same as facebook
 
the fact that the conflict happened - and the Indian resolve to continue to build border infra - itself shows the nationalism of this govt. they dint back out of a fight ever. the mood of the public is firmly with the govt. hardly anyone believes that either the congress or the thirdfront would have shown better resolve. you are free to vote as you like, its a democracy.
I don't expect anything from Congress since they are against India, and as for third front...I come from a state with decades of their rule. Hell, most of my family used to work (volunteer) and vote for CPM. I know first hand how duplicitous and anti-national bunch left front is.

That's not my point.


My point is, will GoI actually respond? We surely aren't doing a charade of look the opposition performed even worse in this case scenario are we? If we are, that's a disappointment. Public mood is for war. Not a talkathon. Not diplomatic spin-doctorism. Not MoD-MEA clusterfuck. Public is with our Forces, not a govt of the day that will wimp out, like Neheru in '62.
 
I very very extremely seriously think that we should not fight with the bro Chinese as biggest beneficiary will by Americaa.
They are evil and forcing two bro countries to fight each other.
#SayNoToWar
Brother??? Hope you are sober and in your senses. The world has only three kind of people/nations. Atyachari, Krantikaari and Vyapari. Should I allow myself to be killed because my fight back will help someone unintended? Think over.
 
It means the Chinese aren't withdrawing from the Galwan Valley. All other negotiations were to proceed once the Chinese complied with the terms of the 6th June agreement that they'd withdraw.
I don't see any reason, why would they withdraw?
They wanted to cover a territory which they are having a portion only
they wanted to show Chinese military might, which got a setback due to more deaths

however, they have successfully created conflict at border which makes their citizens sympathetic towards Chinese govt

I don't expect anything from Congress since they are against India, and as for third front...I come from a state with decades of their rule. Hell, most of my family used to work (volunteer) and vote for CPM. I know first hand how duplicitous and anti-national bunch left front is.

That's not my point.


My point is, will GoI actually respond? We surely aren't doing a charade of look the opposition performed even worse in this case scenario are we? If we are, that's a disappointment. Public mood is for war. Not a talkathon. Not diplomatic spin-doctorism. Not MoD-MEA clusterfuck. Public is with our Forces, not a govt of the day that will wimp out, like Neheru in '62.
It doesn't matter what is the public's mood, you do what is important,
war is not in India's favor at all
however, India has to give befitting reply of every action taken by pla at LAC
 
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WTF, since when Chinese became brother of indians
this slogan of "Hindi chini bhai bhai" was propagated by congress in 1950's, whole idea got killed by china in 1962
so stop this bullshit

till now the response is adequate, but out intelligence and prior preparation is less supirior than Chinese counter part
sad part is that India can not match military spending of china in coming 2 decades
It’s a popular consensus here that Evil America is forcing India to fight brotherly cutely cuddly China.
And India must not fight to bro Chyna at any cost.
 
Brother??? Hope you are sober and in your senses. The world has only three kind of people/nations. Atyachari, Krantikaari and Vyapari. Should I allow myself to be killed because my fight back will help someone unintended? Think over.
Yes sir, exactly. @AbRaj seems to be out of his senses.
 
It’s a popular consensus here that Evil America is forcing India to fight brotherly cutely cuddly China.
And India must not fight to bro Chyna at any cost.
You always neutralize the immediate threat first, India is not a problem for west until and unless India surpasses China in economic growth
china and USA both are evil but for specifically India at this time china is a bigger problem and it is going to remain for 1 decade
 
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You always neutralize the immediate threat first, India is not a problem for west until and unless India surpasses China in economic growth
china and USA both are evil but for specifically India at this time china is a bigger problem and it is going to remain for 1 decade
Nicely said. Not to mention today we face the question of national pride. We must not back off.
 
It’s a popular consensus here that Evil America is forcing India to fight brotherly cutely cuddly China.
And India must not fight to bro Chyna at any cost.
nonsense, chinese are bullying every other country. go take a look at SCS. chinese are arrogant, in the past they have invaded countries like vietnam. They are just modern version of mongolian barbarians. They are competing with americans in becoming more evil!
 
Brother??? Hope you are sober and in your senses. The world has only three kind of people/nations. Atyachari, Krantikaari and Vyapari. Should I allow myself to be killed because my fight back will help someone unintended? Think over.
There is a fourth kind-Indians
This race hide its extreme cowardic in the name of Ahimsa. To it it’s useless to fight for someone that may cause any inconvenience to their routine life style of nothingness.
They make new theories to justify their shameful attitude.
They want to hide their failures under trivial and many times false claims of victories.
 
I don't see any reason, why would they withdraw?
They wanted to cover a territory which they are having a portion only
they wanted to show Chinese military might, which got a setback due to more deaths

however, they have successfully created conflict at border which makes their citizens sympathetic towards Chinese govt
That was what they had committed during the meeting on 6th June.
 
If you feel like that... Don't do so? Lawda toh hone wala hai of all the theories if GoI continues talking and talking with Chinese. If we aren't seeing some concrete, hard action in coming days or weeks, you can kiss all the S-400, Rafale, PoJK, PoL, AC goodbye as castles in the sky.

Meanwhile, please don't stop other members from asking a simple question to a specific member. I don't actually remember asking you anything. Unlike some others, I fully accept I'm full of "feelings" about what happened, and we'll have hard words if you continue insinuating things when none was directed at you.
First reply
1. IA is superior to china ( in experience of mountain terrain and personal training but suffer a limited setback due to old machinery)
2. IN is lagging in no of warship, aircraft carrier, and submarines
3. IA is at equal level (the depleted squadron number is a problem but our pilots are better and planes are war proven)
4. Economy says we are not at the position to go at war
RESULT :- Give reply if required, but don't escalate it at all (But I think Chinese is going to escalate this in coming days)


Second reply
defence forum are not for sharing feelings, they are for discussing strategies (but I think this forum is different so nevermind, I won"t waste my time here)
 
I very very extremely seriously think that we should not fight with the bro Chinese as biggest beneficiary will by Americaa.
They are evil and forcing two bro countries to fight each other.
#SayNoToWar
#YellowLivesMatter
#GoBackMurrica
Being sarcastic is good, but completely denying to understand the point of view of others for that is not so much.
I never said that Chinese are our bros or we should not fight them. I only wanted a US China scuffle before that. That's all. It didn't happen and hence I am concerned. But that doesn't mean that I don't want retribution or heck a decisive war with China.
 
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First reply
1. IA is superior to china ( in experience of mountain terrain and personal training but suffer a limited setback due to old machinery)
2. IN is lagging in no of warship, aircraft carrier, and submarines
3. IA is at equal level (the depleted squadron number is a problem but our pilots are better and planes are war proven)
4. Economy says we are not at the position to go at war
RESULT :- Give reply if required, but don't escalate it at all (But I think Chinese is going to escalate this in coming days)


Second reply
defence forum are not for sharing feelings, they are for discussing strategies (but I think this forum is different so nevermind, I won"t waste my time here)
Birader you are right. This forum is not up to the standards of great personalities like yourselves. So please don’t waste anymore time here.
Pranam.