Line of Actual Control (LAC) : India & Tibet Border Updates

They will neither deny no acknowledge they will simply ignore. Look onus is on us to release evidence only then china will respond. If not it is just mental gymnastic exercise for our self consumption. For them they got what they wanted , why would they care what India says? We can even claim we captured 1000 soldiers and let them go. They would hardly respond. I bet not many chinese would even know there is a confrontation going on.


Exactly, the onus is on us & there has been no official proof provided so far. That was the point of my post.
Unless that happens, it is not a loss of face for the Chinese establishment.
 
Irony is Shukla said since day one they had hostages and the Goi official stand was everyone is accounted for.


Truth is Shukla was right. He said some truths and bhakats called him khangrassi, traitor, bla bla bla just because they don't want to admit our failures and continue to live in denial. To be fair, I was also hoping that he is wrong. Shukla said multiple army officers are captured and it looks like it is true.

This is not the first time Shukla spoke something army refused to confirm and turned out to be true. He was the first one to report that IAF helicopter shot down on 27th Feb was shot down by Indian military itself,something IAF was not confirming. Bhakats called him a lier & Khangrassi for the next one month untill military confirmed court marshal.

 
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So the Chinese returned our 10 men
OUT OF THE GOODNESS OF THEIR HEARTS

These same Chinese had clubbed to death our soldiers a few days earlier

Have you heard the principle of
LEVERAGE

We must have had some leverage
Over them , maybe we had them surrounded and cut off at some place

They could have lost many more if our
10.were not returned

What leverage a poor family have when they pay abductors to get their loved ones back?

For once can you speak without delusions of something grand happening in favor of India which can not be told to world?
 
We will see in future. Chinese did make such offer but India is in no mood to take it. Please read my other post also about "something being done by us". These guys have not been returned on a platter. We also did something to force them to do it.

We always do "something" which can not be told and can not be seen and can not be verified.

Scoundrels making a fool of nation for 70 years.
 
We also had some PLA soldiers with us who were being treated at our hospitals
And why not even a peep about the PLA soldiers who were in our custody ? The story about 10 Indian captives is circulating every where..
Captivity is becoming a regular pass time for our soldiers. First in May at Pangong, then now in June at Galwan, looks like IA / ITBP have a monthly quota of captured soldiers to fill.
 
I mean ppl are
Truth is Shukla was right. He said some truths and bhakats called him khangrassi, traitor, bla bla bla just because they don't want to admit our failures and continue to live in denial. To be fair, I was also hoping that he is wrong. Shukla said multiple army officers are captured and it looks like it is true.

This is not the first time Shukla spoke something army refused to confirm and turned out to be true. He was the first one to report that IAF helicopter shot down on 27th Feb was shot down by Indian military itself,something IAF was not confirming. Bhakats called him a lier & Khangrassi for the next one month untill military confirmed court marshal.

Every Tom, Dick and Harry everywhere and in this forum knew it was shot down by IAF in friendly fire, what was so path-breaking in what Shukla told?
And as for politics is concerned why would Modi or the BJP take political responsibility for the sheer incompetence of IAF.
OTOH what would have happened if govt accepted that 10 soldiers are in custody, it would have increased public pressure and given China more leverage in negotiations. Shukla was just a Colonel, I am pretty sure all other retd. higher-ranking officials like Maj Gens, Lt Gens definitely knew more, there is a reason they keep shut. I remember Shyam Sharan, Shiv Shankar Menon saying something on the same line a few days back!
The time to pin blame is not now, you can do it whenever this thing gets over, you have ample time for that. Divulging information in an ongoing operation/ standoff is not being truthfulness, its irresponsible behaviour akin to the fifth column!
 
PLA attacked our troops on 15-16 eveneing/night. on 16th early morning we surrounded them at another place to build counter pressure. I had posted that Galwan rivers flows to India so anyone being washed down will flow down to India. PLA was seen removing its dead/injured and IA counted 46 stretchers being taken from Indian side alone. There were many which were removed from chinese side also. IA stated that all soldiers are accounted for. Accounted does not mean all are with us. We had nearly a company wiped out. 20 dead, 18 seriously injured, 58 lightly injured and 10 captives. So all were "accounted for".
Please read my posts on 16th. I had clearly given hints about this. Indian media is now clearly split in the vertical. We have strong pro and anti establishment media houses. None of them is telling the truth. While we have media questioning the 46 PLA deaths, they are not willing to accept 20 dead for IA and vice versa.
Let me tell you the truth. Our dead are 20 only and we did have 10 held as captive. The PLA dead are over 65 with nearly 250 were surrounded and facing certain death if PLA had not released our guys. We also had some PLA soldiers with us who were being treated at our hospitals. In all, PLA has suffered a massive loss of face with their dead and injured in multiples of our own dead/injured. What has shook the PLA is that inspite of such a detailed planning, they lost out badly.
PLA now wants time to rethink its strategy and buy time to further refine their tactics. They are not going to back off even after such a massive loss. We have to be prepared to go into offensive now when they are completly clueless and disorganised.
The Northern Army commander is Lt. Gen Y Joshi. He led a batallion in Kargil war and he nows mountain warfare better than many others of his seniority. Lastly try and read what Modi meant by "maartay maartay maray hain". This was not a terrorist attack in which our soldiers were killed in sleep like in URI or blown up in a bus like Pulwama. it was a fight and our soldiers died fighting. Modi is keeping a door open to back down and stike China financially first.

Must have some video for all this act by Chinese while our men were counting their stretchers. Or even that is confidential or memory card got corrupted?
 
We always do "something" which can not be told and can not be seen and can not be verified.

Scoundrels making a fool of nation for 70 years.
Just the enemy cordons off that area for 41 days and then take journalists on a highly restricted and guarded tour.
 
Must have some video for all this act by Chinese while our men were counting their stretchers. Or even that is confidential or memory card got corrupted?
Well did the Chinese memory cards also get corrupted that they aren't releasing videos/pics either? The aim is to diffuse the situation in our favour with as less effort possible and not to give you social media cred to brag about.
 
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Why doesn't IA issue a public statement on this and make China deny it?
It's not a loss of face for the Chinese establishment if it remains hidden, away from public knowledge.

Simple because BJP and its army has people on their pay roll to spread all kind of misinformation and we as a civilians must believe them out of patriotism.

99% Indians are already cheering 43 chinese deaths.

Well did the Chinese memory cards also get corrupted that they aren't releasing videos/pics either? The aim is to diffuse the situation in our favour with as less effort possible and not to give you social media cred to brag about.

Why they need to release videos when they can embarrass us by releasing captives (walking proofs)?
 
Well did the Chinese memory cards also get corrupted that they aren't releasing videos/pics either? The aim is to diffuse the situation in our favour with as less effort possible and not to give you social media cred to brag about.
If we really had chinese soldiers in custody, forget army statement, just a tweet from ANI or some of BJPs trusted journalists would have been enough, until China explicitly denied it.. But, we have complete radio silence. It only means that there were no chinese hostages..