Line of Actual Control (LAC) : India & Tibet Border Updates

India is going to ask China to revert to 1962 LAC and that means they will have to vacate over 1000sqm area in Aksai Chin. If they do not accept it, IA will throw them out. Mark this post.
But it will have huge repercussions in CPC, wont they fight it out? Its too drastic a demand at the first time itself, in small bits might be possible...

Oh, 1962 LAC, I thought IB of 1962. Might happen but still I think they will fight
 
India is going to ask China to revert to 1962 LAC and that means they will have to vacate over 1000sqm area in Aksai Chin. If they do not accept it, IA will throw them out. Mark this post.

That sounds good. It is time to turn Aksai Chin into Aksai Hind. Anyways if Modi simmers down at this time - BJP may loose elections in Bihar. IA also should keep up the pressure this time. This incident should be an eye opener for GOI. Chinese cannot be trusted. They should always be dealt with skepticism.
 
Forum member and even senior members are really feeling down with what is transpiring. We should remember we are for a long haul in Ladakh border. 10 captured of IA and returned, We also captured atleast 1 on Pangan So video. Ambush needs to be answered. Capturing and killing Indian petrol and firing on unarmed soldiers are very common with Chinese since 1960s.Do you think PLA will miss the chest thumping in People's Daily if all is well with them and if IA would have back tracked. We should respect the bravery of Bihar Regiment boys.

PLA is preparing for future skirmish. They wanted to analyze the strength and they have. Now the brainy people in Beijing will build war simulation models.

1) diplomatic steps before during and after the skirmish
2) economic loss assessment and it's compensation
3) military strategy including encirclement of India
4) Indian capability assessment of Indian military, diplomatic, space , cyber and economic maneuvers
5) media involvement , psywar
6) Gain and loss assessment of territory
 
PLA is preparing for future skirmish. They wanted to analyze the strength and they have. Now the brainy people in Beijing will build war simulation models.

1) diplomatic steps before during and after the skirmish
2) economic loss assessment and it's compensation
3) military strategy including encirclement of India
4) Indian capability assessment of Indian military, diplomatic, space , cyber and economic maneuvers
5) media involvement , psywar
6) Gain and loss assessment of territory
Did we even do any damage this Congress guy is speaking something else.

Listen to what the Congress guy speaks he is saying we lost over 200 guys I know it could be completely bullshit and this could fake news drama but still . Also somehow he claims China has ingressed 135 km inside. How??
 
Why not pre 1962 line???
As a first step this is what is going to be demanded. The 1993 agreement status is minimum acceptable. IA is keeping option open to go forward and also back out and de-escalate. Its a political call now. IA says they can get whole of Aksai Chin. Modi wants to show that he has recovered some land if not all from China which was lost by Congress.
These pictures show one thing very clearly that we can block them in small pockets which can be converted to killing fields. Chines have done very stupid deployment for mountain warfare. Landslides can be triggered by just 2-3 155mm rounds and they will get trapped in valleys with no likelihood of reinforcements. The location of our airbases is just about 10 min flying time from LAC while chinese will need over 15 mins and that is a massive advantage for IAF. We will not only be able to deliver a strong punch without being intercepted but will also be able to intercept them much before they reach LAC. Lastly, PLAAF will face same problem which PAF faced on 27th Feb. The aircraft taking off from our side will not be visible on Chines radars till they climb upto the heights of Karakoram peaks while we will be able to detect them well in advance.
 
Anyone can lick up to anybody's A$$. You have heard what the Chinese MEA guy had to say. He says no Indian was held hostage. And yet want to believe all those who say that 10 Indians were held hostage. Who is telling the truth here and whom do you believe and for what? Open your eyes and smell the coffee. Chinese and Indian govts are trying to bury the truth asap. That is the reason we have no videos and pictures. But truth is there for all to be seen. Why would a victor ever hide his victory? Any explanation for the silence of Chinese if they had won it? As the chuti$a saboot gang believes.

Not sure why a well determined enemy who came well prepared for a WAR to humiliate us in front of the world and our neighbors chose to say we don't have any hostages despite India media reporting it ? Will acknowledging the fact they they IA men as hostages not help them in achieving their goal of humiliating us further ? . There can only be two reason for Chinese to do this , either they are in a f@cked up situation or we gave them what they want . Listening to you i am having some hope but @Falcon makes me think negative , dont know what to believe sir .........just like every indians i am too going the same helplessness what i went through during previous governments .
 
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As a first step this is what is going to be demanded. The 1993 agreement status is minimum acceptable. IA is keeping option open to go forward and also back out and de-escalate. Its a political call now. IA says they can get whole of Aksai Chin. Modi wants to show that he has recovered some land if not all from China which was lost by Congress.

These pictures show one thing very clearly that we can block them in small pockets which can be converted to killing fields. Chines have done very stupid deployment for mountain warfare. Landslides can be triggered by just 2-3 155mm rounds and they will get trapped in valleys with no likelihood of reinforcements. The location of our airbases is just about 10 min flying time from LAC while chinese will need over 15 mins and that is a massive advantage for IAF. We will not only be able to deliver a strong punch without being intercepted but will also be able to intercept them much before they reach LAC. Lastly, PLAAF will face same problem which PAF faced on 27th Feb. The aircraft taking off from our side will not be visible on Chines radars till they climb upto the heights of Karakoram peaks while we will be able to detect them well in advance.
This is because they know our political leadership is full of cowards they are planning to slowly outnumber us at key sectors and then when the moment is right they will take their objectives. Everything will be done and dusted. It will be like a short blitzkrieg and we will keep ranting and whining. Those big guns aren't going to be used until the Chinese dont start a shooting war. It's in their advantage to not start a shooting war since minimal casualties and minimal blowback is expected. It's similar to how the made fake islands in The South China sea and filled them with mainland chinese. Those big guns might never be used. I hope I'm proved wrong though...
 
Americans saying you are on your own.

Its foolhardy to expect more from a US leader who cannot look beyond his own reelection, not even his own national interest. His former NSA , in a bare it all expose, claims that the US president pleaded Xi to help him get reelected by increasing agri exports from some key US states.
 

A good read on Chinese calculations and predispositions.

cc @Falcon @S. A. T. A @jetray @Saaho @Sulla84 @randomradio @DivineHeretic @_Anonymous_ and all

(I forgot who I was arguing about Chinese intentions fighting for 'barren' land. which the writer is making the case)
 
In this scenrario, Is there any possibility to test out thermo bomb without international repercussions ..

It's 2 decades already..
 
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Many members here are going to support this , they won't show it overtly though

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We need to take whatever we want.
On mutual terms..

If we think what an enemy of China is suffering..
Look at sky high/ ocean depth friend to China elsewhere facing..

In that case, a friend to USA is better than friend to China.

We are not going to ask free from anyone.
 
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The lack of overt response after 27th Feb 2019 confirmed to Chinese what they suspected - the present dispensation does not have the guts to go to war when pushed.

When they hesitate to take on an adversary who can in all practicality be steam rolled quickly, what would be the GoI's reaction in taking on a 1000x tougher adversary?

And our stupid fanboys believe the nonsense that they can not fight. That is another reason why I have maintained my line of "Dhola Redux".

This was the same mistake that Indians did when Nehru assumed Chinese didn't have it in them to fight and went for the now famous 'forward policy' and built a Dhola Post. We all know how that panned out. In spite of overt Chinese build up then also, we kept our troop levels down as the political masters assured nothing will happen.

Then they simply hammered the post into ground. And rest, as they say, is history. They waited for India to attack.

The saving grace this time, we did not give a knee jerk reaction yet.
I hope that this is not true, but past history makes us believe that this is the truth.

Why will the world believe the versions that GoI and the armed forces put out post 27 Feb? Better still, why should we believe it? Why shouldn't Pakistanis rejoice? Why shouldn't Nepal continue do what it has done? Why not Sri Lanka? What happens once Sheikh Hasina is out of power?

You had mentioned in PDF that Pakistani armed forces' repeated proclamations that Modi is a nut made them believe in their own myth. There seems to be no difference between them and us.

If the present political dispensation cannot fight against the Chinese then they should have simply kept quiet.

Doing the same political $h!t that other parties did, that too in booster doses, may only work within our borders (which have themselves proved to be nebulous).

But i still hope that we get our act together and respond as a nation. War, in modern times, is not the only option. Intent and actions to work on our weaknesses is the need of the hour.
 
Many members here are going to support this , they won't show it overtly though

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