Line of Actual Control (LAC) : India & Tibet Border Updates
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Folks call me whatever, but from now on I am throughly anti-Modi. *censored* Hindu-Muslim whatever but this right here is high treason. To say that no one has entered in our border is high treason. It is saying Aksai Chin is outside our border. It is saying Dem-choq is outside our border. With this, Modi is surrendering OUR lands permanently to China. Thats all.
I don't agree with any poor choice of words or whatever. India's PM after so many days cann't choose his words properly is unbelievable.
@Falcon @vstol Jockey Do you agree that NO one entered our borders? Are our borders now where PLA will drop the tents or dig trenches? I for one person cannot agree with this.
He mentioned these words, Na gusaye and Na Guse. My understanding is this means no one " intruded" and no intrusion is on currently". That begs the question what happened in the Galwan valley. The chinese have been saying that Indian troops have attacked them in Galwan valley and that Galwan valley belong to China. So are we agreeing that Galwan valley is not part of our perception of LaC.
I am sorry, but where did Modi ask the whole of aksai chin?
In my humble opinion, this is high treason to claim no one entered our border. Our borders are NOT at Finger 2 3 or 4. They are NOT at Galwan Valley.
No dear, its worse. Borders are not LAC.
BTW, it is illegal to draw a map of india within india that shows wrong borders of the nation. What is now legal after his statement?
the current crisis is about PLA changing the status quo and occupying the grey zone between F4 - F8 and claiming the entire Galwan valley as its territory. With due respect Sir, You conveniently missed it by terming it as notwithstanding. I don't believe in this Aksai Chin fiction. This government is not having balls to evict the Chinese from Galwan valley, F4-F8 and we are talking about occupying entire Aksai Chin.
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So according to GoI, this is not a repeat of Kargil ?
Finger 4 to Finger 8 is accepted as Chinese territory ?
Tibet & Aksai Chin doesn't feature in the statement even once.
So my understanding is, basically, it's all about the construction of the road now.
Whats gone is gone, further loss will not happen & that is what this army deployment is all about.
What exactly is the status near Pangong Tso ? All is well there as well?
Finger 4 to Finger 8 is accepted as Chinese territory ?
Tibet & Aksai Chin doesn't feature in the statement even once.
So my understanding is, basically, it's all about the construction of the road now.
Whats gone is gone, further loss will not happen & that is what this army deployment is all about.
What exactly is the status near Pangong Tso ? All is well there as well?
Remember this quote from Nehru's speech in RS " “It is a territory where not even a blade of grass grows, about 17,000 feet high. Ladakh is a useless uninhabitable land. Not a blade of grass grows there. We did not even know where it was”. This is how our god like leaders defend India's territorial integrity. Now that we know Galwan valley is not part of Indian Ladakh, we should all move on.
Countering the glorious leader is illegal, going by the way FIRs are filed these days.
This is the same guy who proudly proclaimed - "Main desh ko jhukne nhi doonga" and indulged in theatrics like bowing at the steps of the parliament.
Just like 27Feb, he is not going to take any serious action. At best we will shell the crap out of Pakistan and call it a day.
Infiltration still happens, terror camps still exist and China keeps on nibbling our territory but heck screw that - Modiji ki JAI !!!!
Modi should have told the nation have Chinese occupied any portion of our perception of LAC or not.
Chinese have pulled a Kargil , a successful one this time. Albeit on a smaller scale.
Yes it is a provocation. How do you explain why PLA came in with such force to LAC. China has not been able to intrude the LAC as it existed when this govt came to power. This is a fact and also proven by OSINT satellite images. Than why did we fight? PLA tried to change this by threatening to change the LAC as it existed in May 2014.
We are fighting to ensure that China is not able to redefine LAC thru salami slicing.
Do you know the diference from patrol point to land actually held? When we patrolled to F8, chinese were free to call that we have intruded their area.
You need to read the agreements signed by UPA govt in 1993, 1996 and 2013. Stop blaming Modi for those stupidities. Our first aim should be pre 1993 status or rather 1962 status. How do you initiate a conflict? make unacceptable demands to the other party. The game has started. China will take it all or loose it all and we will loose nothing as far as land is concerned? The moment first bullet is fired across, I foresee PLA scramble back to the plains to the east of Karakoram. They stand no chance in fighting us in the valleys. They had probably thought that seeing their strong deplyoment, IA will back down but our rapid and counter mobilisation has upset their game plan. They thought they will have an easy control of Galwan valley just the way they took over Khurnak fort at F8 in 2008. War is never about actual situations, it is about probabilities which allow you to retain strategic advantage.
It is mix of kargil and doklam, both happened due to lack of info. Or delayed action on the credible info.
Sir what are you talking about. There has been no intrusion nor any occupation of Indian territory says the PM.
@Ankit Kumar & anyone else hailing from Bihar or JK, in case you come across a recording please share the song on the thread - Which song are you listening to?
Sir,
I have this invariant :
It means Aksai-Chin is in India. Thats all. If any enemy troops are in Aksai thats intrusion into our borders. Full Stop.
I respect all of Indian Armed Forces members a lot. Beyond this, I will not say anything else.
I still don't understand whom he is trying to fool by saying no loss of territory happened. clearly there is heavy Chinese presence btw finger 4 to finger 8.