Line of Actual Control (LAC) : India & Tibet Border Updates

Nah. I stand by my words. Am very specifically speaking of the time when the CO was felled. And in immediate aftermath.

I did post a tweet clearly - the unit reserves the right to avenge.

I also posted 'Radio Silence' to which weird inferences have been drawn. It was merely to indicate that your will not be getting any actual picture henceforth. Rumors, innuendos and absolute fake news will now rule the roost.

IA of 2020 is not IA in immediate aftermath of 1962.

Simple Question sir , you agree with Gen V.k.singh claim on Chinese casualties or not ? :unsure:
 
I really can not make people become wise to Chinese ways of thinking and negotiations. I am dead sure of what they are upto.
Honestly, if you want to "make people become wise to Chinese ways of thinking and negotiations", you need to narrate it more clearly. There are bits and pieces spread around. Your terse writing does not help. If you have already written, then do link to it for folks to read. That said, the central question is "if". Its not "SHOULD", it is "IF".
 
Like i said , we too exchanged chinese captured soldiers, here a confirmation by Gen V K Singh.
Here too, he says more than double lost life by China as compared to India..
Many here keep questioning & often saying chinese lost fewer number of soldiers, than Indian Fatalities, if any at all.

Maj Gaurav Arya claims 43 dead on chinese as per Indian army sources to which he is privy too, so do abhijit iyer with 40-50 figure, then US intelligence report claims atleast 35 dead on Chinese side, UN report claims more than 60 dead, 20 being Indian in that report.
Guess the saboot gang, will not agree, and will probably like to view the dead personally and then when in person if that was even possible, then still call for a dental or DnA proof, with next of Kin Dna match.. And these Saboot gang will gladly agree to any bit of misinformation coming from a single unconfirmed source which is against India, and will believe it, unless it can be proved otherwise.
While ignoring multiple Independent Sources claiming similar bit of Information, which dont suit there narrative
 
4. Chinese occupied peaks. We returned favour.
5. Certain areas were 'lost' as ITBP was primarily responsible for the lake area. We are all aware of the situation there. Maybe the HM should answer that.
Point 4: who did a better job?
Point 5: something to worry about in terms of military importance?
 
Like i said , we too exchanged chinese captured soldiers, here a confirmation by Gen V K Singh.
Here too, he says more than double lost life by China as compared to India..
Many here keep questioning & often saying chinese lost fewer number of soldiers, than Indian Fatalities, if any at all.

Maj Gaurav Arya claims 43 dead on chinese as per Indian army sources to which he is privy too, so do abhijit iyer with 40-50 figure, then US intelligence report claims atleast 35 dead on Chinese side, UN report claims more than 60 dead, 20 being Indian in that report.
Guess the saboot gang, will not agree, and will probably like to view the dead personally and then when in person if that was even possible, then still call for a dental or DnA proof, with next of Kin Dna match.. And these Saboot gang will gladly agree to any bit of misinformation coming from a single unconfirmed source which is against India, and will believe it, unless it can be proved otherwise.
While ignoring multiple Independent Sources claiming similar bit of Information, which dont suit there narrative


Bro it doesn't matter there was any casuality on their side or not. No one will ever come to know about that. A country which cracked down on Hong Kong, now Taking head on With US, India and rest of the world. Which did Tienanmen 30 years ago and got a free escape, and still got all the business of the world. So you can imagine what they have tapped in the world. They mean business and world needs fancy stuff and jobs and money. No reason is sufficient to make Chinese look villain.

No country condemned what China did in Ladakh! World doesn't run like that. No matter even if you all prove there was causality on the chinese side, it wont make any difference.

Indian leaders have sold their country to Chinese and Russians and Americans and signed unaccounted secret agreements with them. Laws, clause which prevents India take action have been signed by the same leaders whom you give mandate to. No matter how much Modi tries, he has realized that problem is deep rooted.

It's better to mind your financial cndition, look after your family , career and nothing else. Don't expect anything big. Because India will never be able to be self capable to develop it's own product and market it. 50 years India needs to develop Huawei type of firm. I have seen India , Indians both from Inside and outside. Due to suppression of years they have lost the will to be a lively community. And no one will let you rise.

Imagine you have a shop, why would you want other shop in the vicinity. You would want monoply, that's exactly what is happening in the region. More over, you can't handle air water pollution right now, but when industries come, you can imagine the condition of India with corrupt and paiskhor babudom.
 
Armed forces told to forcefully deal with Chinese aggression
  • Armed forces have been given "full freedom" in responding to any Chinese aggressive behaviour.
  • Defence Minister Rajnath Singh held a high-level meeting with Chief of Defence Staff, Army Chief, Navy Chief and Air Chief.
  • Singh told the top military brass to maintain strict vigil on Chinese activities around land border, airspace and in strategic sea lanes, and asked them to adopt a "tough" approach in dealing with any misadventure by Chinese forces
 
India has changed rules of engagement at LAC after the Galwan Valley clash and given Army commanders full freedom to put in use any instrument under his command for tactical operations as deemed fit in the situation, reports The Print.
India has informed China about the changed rules both at military and diplomatic levels.
“The rules of engagement have changed. The Army commander on the ground will decide on the tactics to be used to counter any kind of aggression. There is nothing now that binds the commander from taking certain kinds of tactical decisions,” The Print quoted a source as saying.
“The Chinese have been told both at diplomatic and military levels that rules of engagement have changed. India will counter forcefully any kind of misstep or violence by China,” said another source.
Use of firearms

Both the 1996 and 2005 agreements between India and China ban the use of firearms in face-offs at the border.
Article 6 of the 1996 agreement says that “neither side shall open fire or conduct blast operations within 2 km of the Line of Actual Control”. Therefore, the practice on ground was that not all carried loaded firearms while on patrol.
This doesn’t mean that the soldiers remain unarmed. All troops on border duty always carry arms, especially when leaving post, informed external affairs minister S Jaishankar.
The soldiers involved in the 15 June clash with Chinese troops were also carrying firearms. They did not open fire as they were following border agreements between the two countries, the government said on Thursday.
The Galwan valley clash on Monday (15 June) evening was carried out without firearms, and involved rods and wooden spikes with nails on them, stonepelting and physical clashes.
Reportedly, after the 5 May clash at the Pangong Tso lake, the soldiers posted there were supplied with light anti-riot gear, including body armours, shields and fibre lathis.
Under the new Rules of Engagement, the restrictions on the use of firearms won’t apply on the commanders who will have full authority to respond to “extraordinary situations” using all resources at their disposal.
“With the changes in the ROE, there’s nothing that limits the ability of Indian commanders to take whatever action they deem necessary on the LAC. ROE have been amended to address the brutal tactics being employed by Chinese troops,” HT quoted an official as saying.
“Two violent clashes took place in Pangong Tso (5-6May) and Galwan Valley (around mid-May) before the 15 June skirmish in eastern Ladakh. On all occasions, they came in huge numbers and assaulted our troops with iron roads and nail-studded clubs. Our troops fought back fearlessly but the ROE had to be revisited,” he said.
Top retired commanders India-China relations observers called the clashes "not classical face-offs between rival troops but were extremely violent attacks on Indian soldiers”.

 
In thin air, with heat sensors. It ll make for a great sales pitch for future customers.

But do we have sufficient numbers?

Enough to make it a worth sight.
Simple Question sir , you agree with Gen V.k.singh claim on Chinese casualties or not ? :unsure:

He said 43 ghayal. Not maar diye. He will never make that kind of statement.

I stand with it …. fair …
 
Honestly, if you want to "make people become wise to Chinese ways of thinking and negotiations", you need to narrate it more clearly. There are bits and pieces spread around. Your terse writing does not help. If you have already written, then do link to it for folks to read. That said, the central question is "if". Its not "SHOULD", it is "IF".

Problem of life. Time is not available to make long statements of earlier times..

Will write sometime if I do get.

Was supposed to write … have been reminded a number of times. Have not.
Point 4: who did a better job?
Point 5: something to worry about in terms of military importance?


Overall for 4: China
For 5: Yes. This is just the beginning. They will push harder.
 
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