Line of Actual Control (LAC) : India & Tibet Border Updates

How about Sprut sd for our airborne troops...? It does not have armour though...

I don't wanna take this anymore OT than it aleady has, but the Sprut SD is required for a different requirement. IA is interested in procuring light tanks as well, so tanks like the Sprut, PL-01 etc will likely compete for it in a tender.
 
With all due respect to the fallen. You know, India's problem is even if there is small success, they will exaggerate it so much. Guys just relax. The chinese haven't even started the skirmish. So don't be overconfident with all this. Soldiers whatever country they belong should be respected and their dues paid for whatever they are bound to get.

I see many Indians all over internet some belong to BJP IT cell celebrating like Pakistanis do after a small skirmish as if they won the subcontinent. Relax guys, don't be kiddish. Whatever has happened is hardly 2% of what can actually happen. Don't waste your libido on laughing and making jokes. Of course morale is important but Chinese are not to be taken as joke.

If they have lost men, so does India. It's not 0:4 ratio. And secondly the issue is about actual groudn situation. Aksai Chin is not withing Indian control so what are you people celebrating? For Indians there is a long way to go before you reach the level of self reliance. Even today RM has to run to Russia to get stuff to maintain AF, what are you happy about in that? So act mature!
 
I have been in bodybuilding. I did squats with 110 Kg weights and bench pressed 80 Kgs. I don't think it's possible he is carrying four Chinese in his hands, certainly not by his physique in pic. However, it's possible he may have thrown himself with 4 Chinese into ridge provided he grabbed their arms.

I think we are going overboard. However noodle legged Chinese are, they don't weigh same as momos.
Carrying four does not mean physically lifting them. It also means physically pushing them. And it is very much possible. he fell off the ridge while pushing them over the ridge.
 
If they have lost men, so does India. It's not 0:4 ratio. And secondly the issue is about actual groudn situation. Aksai Chin is not withing Indian control so what are you people celebrating? For Indians there is a long way to go before you reach the level of self reliance. Even today RM has to run to Russia to get stuff to maintain AF, what are you happy about in that? So act mature!
I don't think self reliance is that big of an issue. Conflicts will be going to be short and intense. Having weapons at hand matters more than the ability to produce them. Thats not the issue. The issue is different and more troubling.

Across the political spectrum of India this crisis is being used to score political points, PM is prioritizing covering his posteriors politically by giving statements which are strategically troubling and deep state is in deep freeze since forever, armed forces are now running to procure critical weapons and ammunition in an emergency mode (Balakote was not an alarm enough) and our foreign policy is not in place enough to push a message to China early on.

It reeks of incompetence. It reeks of lethargy. It reeks of NOT giving enough priority to matters of existential threat.
 
Across the political spectrum of India this crisis is being used to score political points, PM is prioritizing covering his posteriors politically by giving statements which are strategically troubling

I have already said it in 2-3 posts. He is politicizing now by making wrong statements and as I said has been already picked by Congress and will be used by China as well.
I don't think self reliance is that big of an issue

Self reliance, is a jhoomla because even Modi knows under current centre state federal structure gali ka kutta bhi shaer hai and has a say to ruin a project even if it is sustainable, only because he didn't his cut.

But if taken seriously, ' self reliance' this is a strategic response to China, if India ever tries to actually work upon it.
It reeks of incompetence. It reeks of lethargy. It reeks of NOT giving enough priority to matters of existential threat.

More than 80% of Indian government is an incompetent bunch of losers, including military stuck in ego crisis. And then after losing they take out their frustration on Indian people. India running only because of those 20% officers who are doing their job brilliantly and double the work they are responsible for.

Any ministry you talk about even in military, only 20% are sincere rest are back entry people or criminals.
 
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This seems to be the same place where first tent was placed that led to clash.

While Indian govt. is providing cover for Chinese intrusion by saying everything is ok satellite images are picking some worried things.
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Co-ordinates : 34.7690079,78.2131337. Rotated

Here is the image on google earth / map for reference.

Seems to run counter to our narrative of no one came in. Assuming LAC is where google earth/map is showing. If these encampments and build up is Chinese (which I suspect it is), then this is counter to the narrative from few days back and this may NOT be dis-enagement that is being reported in few papers.

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This seems to be the same place where first tent was placed that led to clash.

While Indian govt. is providing cover for Chinese intrusion by saying everything is ok satellite images are picking some worried things.
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Co-ordinates : 34.7690079,78.2131337. Rotated

Here is the image on google earth / map for reference.

Seems to run counter to our narrative of no one came in. Assuming LAC is where google earth/map is showing. If these encampments and build up is Chinese (which I suspect it is), then this is counter to the narrative from few days back and this may NOT be dis-enagement that is being reported in few papers.

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And if PLA-GF have vacated then what is the negotiation going on for, and why Rajnath ji flying to Russia suddenly, war emergency financial support given go ahead? One feature has been perhaps forcefully vacated on 15th-16th but there seem to be many. Pattern explains that.
This is similar to Kargil 2.0
 
There is no disengagement in Galway. It's just propaganda attempt. As I said few times before, Government of India should realise that it is not 90s or early 2000s where you can lie about border status. Hyping up imaginary victories (which are failures) using IT cells and party loyalists won't be enough to hide reality. By the way, if we did well in the June 15 clash against China in PT14, who come China physically occupied and fortified it?


PLA has build large fortifications in Galway where conflict happened after June 15. Here is images with timeline. Just like finger 4,5,6, now PLA is in control PT14





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