Line of Actual Control (LAC) : India & Tibet Border Updates

"Temporary" like rest of Aksai?

Sirji, did you only get to know about this 2 weeks ago, or did you know that Aksai Chin has been under Chinese control for decades?

They didn't lose anything. Soon enough Modi himself will do his jhula diplomacy once again and invite Chinese firms.

This app ban was so people didn't break TVs when he came with his mitroooo the next day.

All is game of ratings. He is just doing things when he sees approval rating dipping a little. He'll stop as soon as he gets his target.

The app ban was mooted since a long time ago. It's not new.

Of course, it's all about ratings. 🙄
 
When we can patiently wait for 70 years for POK , why not for Galwan or Pangong Tso

If you were to see the terrain in detail
The important places worth fighting for are our border villages , plains and the Roads

The Rest is all mountains and valleys

Sure lets have another festering sore, that will make us sink money and resources for the next few decades.
 
Why would they do that, unless they plan to go to war?

People dont understand the Objectives of mountain warfare

What is it that China wants

It is places like DBO , Depsang and Karakoram pass

And it also wants to occupy our DSDBO road

So these will be their objectives Which WE have to foil

Similarly what is it that They dont want to lose

These are places in Tibet and Aksai Chin , G 219 Highway , Chumbi valley , Sirijap etc

These will be our objectives

People want us to capture the entire area till Finger 8 , the Question is how do we hold the territory after that
 
Sirji, did you only get to know about this 2 weeks ago, or did you know that Aksai Chin has been under Chinese control for decades?



The app ban was mooted since a long time ago. It's not new.

Of course, it's all about ratings. 🙄

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I don't understand that argument. Your point is that since PoK and CoK is under enemy control for long so...what? We shouldn't retrieve it? We call it Chinese?

Is that what you're aiming at? Then mend the bloody maps and don't teach our kids the lies. Settle the border and stop doing the dramabaazi in parliament about CoK humara hai.

Unless you're asking why I didn't rage about CoK before. That answer, I'm afraid is simply because I wasn't born then.

It is natural to rage more about things I'm seeing happen than 60 years ago. And what is the use of raging about CoK? GoI can't keep current accessible areas safe and it'll retake CoK?
 
Sure lets have another festering sore, that will make us sink money and resources for the next few decades.

So if we manage to clear the area till Finger 8 , will the Conflict END there or will it be the beginning of LOC like situation

If we can manage A LOC like situation on LAC , let us start shelling on Chinese posts
 
Within our security system, we mostly use our own stuff. And in time the usage of domestic systems will only increase. All thanks to sanctions on India in 1998. So, unlike how Supermicro boards were compromised in the American security system, we escaped that.

Take our NSM mission for supercomputers. Nothing in it comes from China. The first two phases are based on license production with a French company, and the third phase is based on our own design.
Really?
I guess you don't know much Atos and their platform...
The "French" company in question is Atos.

Param -XXXXXXX being installed in NSM is actually locally assembled BullSequana X platform from Atos.

Any guess which motherboard goes into BullSequana X?

Its hard to find but if you look hard enough ....

Supermicro X11DPG-QT

When it comes to blade / server motherboards, there are not many games in the town. And forget it. India is not getting a blade / server motherboards manufacturing anytime soon.
 
So if we manage to clear the area till Finger 8 , will the Conflict END there or will it be the beginning of LOC like situation

If we can manage A LOC like situation on LAC , let us start shelling on Chinese posts

Conflict wont end in either case.
In 62 we let them walk over. They kept creeping in.
In 67 we beat the hell out of them they still kept creeping in.
In 87, 17 we stood our ground and they still kept creeping in.

Agreements, treaties mean nothing to them. You can make them sign a border agreement today and see them using the paper as a plate for eating Bat Pakodas tomorrow.

Chinese only understand resolute force. Beat them they will go away only to circle at a distance sniffing for their next chance.
 
High speed boat interceptors earlier and PARA SF now . Dosen't look like de-escalation , either we are preparing for Chinese attack or Someone is one gonna provoke and all hell breaks loose . Have to wait and watch how things pan out

 
People want us to capture the entire area till Finger 8 , the Question is how do we hold the territory after that
yup thats the thing we need to answer, starting a war is easy but ending it on our terms is hard. One thing is we should try to get them accept a ceasefire line under international pressure.
 
Conflict wont end in either case.
In 62 we let them walk over. They kept creeping in.
In 67 we beat the hell out of them they still kept creeping in.
In 87, 17 we stood our ground and they still kept creeping in.

Agreements, treaties mean nothing to them. You can make them sign a border agreement today and see them using the paper as a plate for eating Bat Pakodas tomorrow.

Chinese only understand resolute force. Beat them they will go away only to circle at a distance sniffing for their next chance.

For that they will have to breach the RED Lines

As things stand today they are squatting close to our Red Lines
 
High speed boat interceptors earlier and PARA SF now . Dosen't look like de-escalation , either we are preparing for Chinese attack or Someone is one gonna provoke and all hell breaks loose . Have to wait and watch how things pan out

I have a reasonable question. Para SF deployment shouldn't be in the news, right?

Why is it?
 
When it comes to blade / server motherboards, there are not many games in the town. And forget it. India is not getting a blade / server motherboards manufacturing anytime soon.
does India even manufacture Ethernet cards?
 
yup thats the thing we need to answer, starting a war is easy but ending it on our terms is hard. One thing is we should try to get them accept a ceasefire line under international pressure.

Again for the Nth time , I would say
Mountain war is all about Logistics

That is what caused American defeat in Afghanistan

We can drive away Pakistanis from their posts on LOC by Fire assaults
But that becomes a no man' s land for us also

If push comes to shove
We have clear well defined objectives for which we will go to war
I have a reasonable question. Para SF deployment shouldn't be in the news, right?

Why is it?

It is quid pro quo

They too must have done so for quick night time raids using helicopters
 
Again for the Nth time , I would say
Mountain war is all about Logistics

That is what caused American defeat in Afghanistan

We can drive away Pakistanis from their posts on LOC by Fire assaults
But that becomes a no man' s land for us also

If push comes to shove
We have clear well defined objectives for which we will go to war


It is quid pro quo

They too must have done so for quick night time raids using helicopters
That's not what I'm saying. I'm asking why the news that Para SF is deployed is on the news? Why is it out in open? Govt could have blocked that news if they wanted.
 
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I don't understand that argument. Your point is that since PoK and CoK is under enemy control for long so...what? We shouldn't retrieve it? We call it Chinese?

No, I mean why did you wake up to the problem so suddenly?

Is that what you're aiming at? Then mend the bloody maps and don't teach our kids the lies. Settle the border and stop doing the dramabaazi in parliament about CoK humara hai.

Unless you're asking why I didn't rage about CoK before. That answer, I'm afraid is simply because I wasn't born then.

It is natural to rage more about things I'm seeing happen than 60 years ago. And what is the use of raging about CoK? GoI can't keep current accessible areas safe and it'll retake CoK?

You're basically saying you are still too young to face the nuances of adult life.
 
That's not what I'm saying. I'm asking why the news that Para SF is deployed is on the news? Why is it out in open? Govt could have blocked that news if they wanted.


Can be part of psyops. May be we are provoking them and forcing their hand to do something stupid which we can capitalise on. Or may be stupidity, we have seen a lot of brazenly stupid reporting in the past haven't we!?
 
No, I mean why did you wake up to the problem so suddenly?



You're basically saying you are still too young to face the nuances of adult life.

That's your rebuttal for advocating loss of territories and perpetuating outright lies in name of preserving face?

No wonder with people drawn from population like yours we got Neheru, Gandhi and other leaders.

It's not a babu, politician problem. It's this holier than thou because I can think rolling over and selling my self respect is a good choice that's the problem.

Please, I don't want to engage with you any further. You have a... rather atrophied mind. Good lord, I pray I never become as adult as you to advocate selling self dignity and present it as a win.
Can be part of psyops. May be we are provoking them and forcing their hand to do something stupid which we can capitalise on. Or may be stupidity, we have seen a lot of brazenly stupid reporting in the past haven't we!?

Or it's a calibrated information release to show they're doing something. Like the app ban. It's just news articles released to shunt public anger.
 
Can be part of psyops. May be we are provoking them and forcing their hand to do something stupid which we can capitalise on. Or may be stupidity, we have seen a lot of brazenly stupid reporting in the past haven't we!?

It is one step below the Usage of Artillery

So far we have had Club Fights

Next is infantry and Special forces

After that comes Artillery
 
Really?
I guess you don't know much Atos and their platform...
The "French" company in question is Atos.

Param -XXXXXXX being installed in NSM is actually locally assembled BullSequana X platform from Atos.

Any guess which motherboard goes into BullSequana X?

Its hard to find but if you look hard enough ....

Supermicro X11DPG-QT

When it comes to blade / server motherboards, there are not many games in the town. And forget it. India is not getting a blade / server motherboards manufacturing anytime soon.

Yeah, I know about that. We replaced that with Intel motherboards that were built through a JV. The motherboard is more indigenous than foreign and are part of the first 3 computers. All 3 were assembled in India, so you can be sure they were checked for bugs.

In the next phase, we will be using Indian processors. 11 computers have been approved.

You really think we are dumb enough to import Chinese tech for govt projects? It's the private industry that has to worry about Chini maal, I already told you that.
That's your rebuttal for advocating loss of territories and perpetuating outright lies in name of preserving face?

No wonder with people drawn from population like yours we got Neheru, Gandhi and other leaders.

It's not a babu, politician problem. It's this holier than thou because I can think rolling over and selling my self respect is a good choice that's the problem.

Please, I don't want to engage with you any further. You have a... rather atrophied mind. Good lord, I pray I never become as adult as you to advocate selling self dignity and present it as a win.


Or it's a calibrated information release to show they're doing something. Like the app ban. It's just news articles released to shunt public anger.

You will learn how the adult mind works. There are no chest-beaters when it comes to foreign affairs.
 
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