It's provocation, directly to Xi, connect with other developments over the week it doesn't look like PR stunt, though Modiji is infamous for it.Or just a PR stunt
Line of Actual Control (LAC) : India & Tibet Border Updates
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I have a conspiracy theory:
This is all planned by US, India, China, Russia, Israel and France.
Before corona world was already in recession and turmoil, lot of countries were burdened with job creation, trade stress, economy, population control, climate control etc , nothing much changed for India, only things got better. Gold prices are high , as demand increases its touching rs50000 almost per 10g. Free ration pani and something to gossip about. Jahan log sharab pi kar road mein mar rahy thy ab corona se nipat rahye hai, nothing else.
India specific:
When you don't pass the students you don't have to give them jobs. Already delayed by 6 months to a year. Govt has created a buffer of one year now
. Crime rate down, pollution down. Government has ample of funds to feed 1 billion. Actually you don't need funds you need ration. India has a lot.Automobile will replan their strategy which was already in loss. Fuel prices up to compensate the expenditure. In one week govt will recover the spent money.
Now comes the China factor, amid corona, every one blames China but action on ground doesn't happen. UK gives opportunity to Hong kong people, as if earlier they were not granted citizenship
How will they travel first of all? India helps Russia and France in keeping their defence industry rolling. US tries to uplift it's trade, stops immigration and H1b, also a nice point for upcoming elections, China still manufactures the products demand has not gone down as much.
Banning china products ? Oh well who is buying them amid corona, every one is at home. There is shortage already of products due to supply chain.
Apney 20 marwa do unke 35 thok do, dono leaders strong in their own country. This is actually Chanakyan politics
So in a nutshell if you pick the point and pattern, The above mentioned countries have emerged as world powers and their current leders are the new bosses. Because every one in the world is looking at them.
Conclusion: Its not India vs China or world vs China. WW3 is about one lobby Vs other lobby Current people in govt Vs opposition in their respected country.
Congratulations, Putin won the support in reform and stays president for 16 more years
Or just a PR stunt
Its both actually. Modi is a expert in combining mutually independent things.
I have a conspiracy theory:
This is all planned by US, India, China, Russia, Israel and France.
Before corona world was already in recession and turmoil, lot of countries were burdened with job creation, trade stress, economy, population control, climate control etc , nothing much changed for India, only things got better. Gold prices are high , as demand increases its touching rs50000 almost per 10g. Free ration pani and something to gossip about. Jahan log sharab pi kar road mein mar rahy thy ab corona se nipat rahye hai, nothing else.
India specific:
When you don't pass the students you don't have to give them jobs. Already delayed by 6 months to a year. Govt has created a buffer of one year now
Automobile will replan their strategy which was already in loss. Fuel prices up to compensate the expenditure. In one week govt will recover the spent money.
Now comes the China factor, amid corona, every one blames China but action on ground doesn't happen. UK gives opportunity to Hong kong people, as if earlier they were not granted citizenship
India helps Russia and France in keeping their defence industry rolling. US tries to uplift it's trade, stops immigration and H1b, also a nice point for upcoming elections, China still manufactures the products demand has not gone down as much.
Banning china products ? Oh well who is buying them amid corona, every one is at home. There is shortage already of products due to supply chain.
Apney 20 marwa do unke 35 thok do, dono leaders strong in their own country. This is actually Chanakyan politics
So in a nutshell if you pick the point and pattern, The above mentioned countries have emerged as world powers and their current leders are the new bosses. Because every one in the world is looking at them.
Conclusion: Its not India vs China or world vs China. WW3 is about one lobby Vs other lobby Current people in govt Vs opposition in their respected country.
Congratulations, Putin won the support in reform and stays president for 16 more years
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Or just a PR stunt
PR is not done by saying "expansionist forces have either lost or were forced to turn back" . Its not a PR but a message delivered loud and clear , directly from the war zone to the expansionist .
Era of expansionism is over; India's enemies have seen 'fire and fury' of its armed forces: PM Modi during Ladakh visit | India News - Times of India
India News: Taking an apparent dig at China, Prime Minister Narendra Modi on Friday said the age of expansionism is over and added that the new age of development
timesofindia.indiatimes.com
How does it matter? Some say it repeatedly some say once, depends upon style of leadership, doesn't prove anyone strong or weak. Actions does, this comes under action.
Yet another account of what happened on the night of 15th June, this time by an ex CO of 16 Bihar.
India’s short-term strategy should aim at restoring the status quo ante along the Line of Actual Control through a combination of military and diplomatic negotiations. The use of force should be considered only after exhausting all possible non-kinetic options.
Pointed this out already.
In fact, merely restoring status quo with talks is a bigger victory than restoring it with the use of guns. With India starting to ban Chinese tech companies, this will become the new normal, something they might not be able to reverse even after status quo has been restored at the LAC. Hence a new Digital LAC. Playing with this new status will allow us to start accessing their data market in time.
These things take time. We too took 17 days to ban Chinese apps.
I assume that you have no idea that how badly Chinese are encircled by the navies of US, Japan, SK, Australia and other ASEAN countries in SCS. Together they field upto 100 destroyers and dozen ACs.
That is why Chinese have fielded 90% of their aircrafts in their eastern theatre to counter this massive threat.
This visit of Modi has proved my point.
Please don't act blind to recent geo political events. From QUAD to ASEAN to NATO to Russia everyone is with us. And apart from Russia all of them are more than eager to join the fight against dragon. Even Russia may join, but anything could be said with certainty on it only after G11 meet.
De - escalation is bound to fail as Chinese won't back off from what they are occupying. We could have a de- escalation only at the cost of our national pride. With this recent visit of Modi it is clear that is not going to happen. He has committed too much by his visit. He can't budge now.
By national pride I also referred to the unilateral change in status quo by Chinese side. Untill that is reversed talking about de escalation is against our pride and national interest. And yes it is futile to expect that China would retreat without a shot being fired. You are way too optimistic here.
You clearly underestimate the importance of CPEC for China. It is mentioned in their constitution. They know that without it they would forever remain on our mercy for their trade route. Theirs ISA merchandisle community. They will always fight for money and land
The Chinese have always fielded most of their military in the East. Only piddly stuff near India. It's also why even the main strike corps of the WTC are in the plains, where they can be used against Russian and Americans as reserve forces.
They are not allies. They are partners. With some mutual intersection in interests.
Not necessary. As long as India delivers enough intent, the Chinese will get the message. Modi's visit won't change the calculus too much. The Chinese are more interested in what you are bringing to the fight, not the talk.
They have always retreated. The current situation is an exception rather than the norm. Which is why we have talks. During Kargil, we got the guns talking 'cause the situation was the opposite.
You overestimate CPEC's importance to China. They are bound to lose dozens of times more in a war with India instead. If Pakistan is taken out, they will simply switch their focus to Iran instead.
Pls read how did the good general conclude his article & Please don't tell me you can't read between the lines.
He is not proposing an alliance, he is talking about cooperation. I am entirely on board with cooperation.
Look at what he says specifically:
"Since the development of the necessary combat power will take time,"
This means he's proposing exactly what I said, we should bide our time and build up our economy and military in order to take on China.
In the meantime:
"in the interim,
it would be prudent to align with like-minded nations to balance the regional military power equations."
So until we get power ourselves, we should cooperate with other countries and work together to face the threat.
But within limits:
"However, this should be undertaken with due diligence."
=Don't get into a dumb alliance. Simply cooperate to the best of our ability and then when the time comes the fat lady sings.
There. After an American DoD representative, the army chief is also singing the same tune I did. And you were worried about my credibility. smh
In the immediate time span what he's saying is we lack the capacity to take on China which in the present situation means that we should cut our losses & accept the new normal. Are you in agreement with what the ex COAS has declared? . Mind you, you've yourself posted different arguments on this at different times in the last 1 month, tailoring your argument to the situation.
From arguing that we cannot take on China now & that we should wait till 2022-23 to do so to arguing that our perceived losses aren't substantial that merit a localised war to at times suggesting that in case we wage war we could prevail on the Chinese to now what you've just posted. What's exactly your stand?