Line of Actual Control (LAC) : India & Tibet Border Updates

I have said it earlier too that any action by us during the Monsoon season is highly unlikely. For me the current posturing is to prevent any pre emptive strike by Chinese through showing them that we are prepared for any eventualities. PM's visited Laddakh for the same reason. We are biding our time for sure but we can't show it openly to our enemy. Hence the aggressive attitude.

Most definitely.

Also, if we do fight, we have to do it within a short period of time before winter sets in and international pressure falls on China. That will give us enough time to kick them out and then prevent them from mobilising for a counterattack. So that would be between September and November.

We could avoid an all-out war then.
 
Most definitely.

Also, if we do fight, we have to do it within a short period of time before winter sets in and international pressure falls on China. That will give us enough time to kick them out and then prevent them from mobilising for a counterattack. So that would be between September and November.

We could avoid an all-out war then.

You can call the Chinese a lot of things. Stupid is not one of them. They will be working overtime right now squeezing information anywhere they get. Do you feel they will not have considered this scenario?
 
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Most definitely.

Also, if we do fight, we have to do it within a short period of time before winter sets in and international pressure falls on China. That will give us enough time to kick them out and then prevent them from mobilising for a counterattack. So that would be between September and November.

We could avoid an all-out war then.
Sorry but I am against that idea. If we want to fight a war with an enemy as big as China then better we fight it for bigger strategic goals. We should father our allies and impose a multiple front war against both of our adversaries which would result in their total disintegration. After that we won't have any security concern and could solely focus on our economic development.
 
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You can call the Chinese a lot of things. Stupid is not one of them. They will be working overtime right now squeezing information anywhere they get. Do you feel they will not have considered this scenario?

Then all-out war it is.
Sorry but I am against that idea. If we want to fight a war with an enemy as big as China then better we fight it for bigger strategic goals. We should father our allies and impose a multiple front war against both of our adversaries which would result in their total disintegration. After that we won't have any security concern and could solely focus on our economic development.

Okay, so the US, Japan etc will fight our war?

What's the incentive you will pay them to make them fight China? Because right now they have no interest in fighting China.
 
Okay, so the US, Japan etc will fight our war?

What's the incentive you will pay them to make them fight China? Because right now they have no interest in fighting China.

Its our land it will be our fight. We might get expedited munition shipments but we should be careful what deal we strike with the US, France or even Japan. No favor comes for free.

Its either cash or Grass, Gas or *censored*. No one gets a free ride in anyone's car.
 
Okay, so the US, Japan etc will fight our war?
Who said that?? They would fight their own war in their own theatre.
What's the incentive you will pay them to make them fight China? Because right now they have no interest in fighting China.
We don't need to incentivize them for attacking China. They have pretty good reasons of themselves to do that. But then again I can hardly make you aware of the current geo political realities. You have to analyse all this by yourself.
 
Who said that?? They would fight their own war in their own theatre.

We don't need to incentivize them for attacking China. They have pretty good reasons of themselves to do that. But then again I can hardly make you aware of the current geo political realities. You have to analyse all this by yourself.

US wanted Indian boots in Afghanistan. Indian bases there would have meant a two front scenario for Pak. How much traction did that idea get in India?

No one wants to fight costly wars and lose their people for someone else's war. Unless China goes all Nazi Germany, thats not going to happen.
 
US wanted Indian boots in Afghanistan. Indian bases there would have meant a two front scenario for Pak. How much traction did that idea get in India?

No one wants to fight costly wars and lose their people for someone else's war. Unless China goes all Nazi Germany, thats not going to happen.
You are connecting two completely unrelated scenarios. Indian boots in Afghanistan and US warring in SCS are as different as chalk and cheese.
I could write a very long post on it but being a lazy person would refrain from it, at least for now. Instead I request you to compare both the scenarios for the time being.
And yes we had very little reasons to move into Afghanistan while US has all the reasons to punish China now. US won't be fighting our war but both of us together would be fighting our respective war.
 
Its our land it will be our fight. We might get expedited munition shipments but we should be careful what deal we strike with the US, France or even Japan. No favor comes for free.

Its either cash or Grass, Gas or *censored*. No one gets a free ride in anyone's car.

Yep. Exactly.

Who said that?? They would fight their own war in their own theatre.

We don't need to incentivize them for attacking China. They have pretty good reasons of themselves to do that. But then again I can hardly make you aware of the current geo political realities. You have to analyse all this by yourself.

They don't plan on fighting China yet. If they are to fight China, then China has to cause trouble in Taiwan or S Korea. Until that happens, the other countries will want India to fight China.

It's in fact the wish of everyone in the West and even Russia is for India to fight China. You see, after China is taken care of, it's India's turn.
 
What happens when we have heavy rains to the ground and the radars? Which airforce will win in such a battle, the one which can fly terrain hugging blind or the one which gets restricted to ground? What about ground forces? What happens to those who are deployed in river valleys compared to those who hold the higher ground? Some points to think over. Lack of mobility is a problem for both the fighting forces. Who will win in such a situation? Will it rain continuosly for 30-40 days or will it just clear up for 12-16 hrs to let a better prepared force take over the battlefield? remember Normandy landings, an eight hour window in the weather did the impossible-possible.
 
@randomradio instead of answering you pointwise I am leaving this tweet.
Do check both of them and ponder.

The Americans have been running Freedom of Navigation exercises in that region for years. This is not the first time they deployed 3 carriers in the Pacific at the same time.

They brought 2 carriers forward due to the tensions between US and China due to the pandemic, with 1 carrier in the Eastern Pacific.

Look at the date. Which means they had planned this months ago, well before May even, possibly even during the Jan-Feb period. They don't do this with overnight planning.

It simply coincided with the India-China tensions now.

Don't confuse our situation with the Americans doing their own thing.
 
The Americans have been running Freedom of Navigation exercises in that region for years. This is not the first time they deployed 3 carriers in the Pacific at the same time.
Do check when the last time they had 3 or more carriers in SCS. US navy has tweeted about it too
They brought 2 carriers forward due to the tensions between US and China due to the pandemic, with 1 carrier in the Eastern Pacific.
Do I need to say more??
Look at the date. Which means they had planned this months ago, well before May even, possibly even during the Jan-Feb period. They don't do this with overnight planning.
You too check that when it was decided to fight the gulf war and when it actually being fought.
It simply coincided with the India-China tensions now.
Exactly. And we should cash it.
Don't confuse our situation with the Americans doing their own thing.
It was you sir, who is repeatedly saying that any military action by US against China would amount to US fighting our war. But I am saying it from the starting that they will fight theirs and we will fight ours.
 
Do check when the last time they had 3 or more carriers in SCS. US navy has tweeted about it too

2017.

Do I need to say more??

You too check that when it was decided to fight the gulf war and when it actually being fought.

Exactly. And we should cash it.

It was you sir, who is repeatedly saying that any military action by US against China would amount to US fighting our war. But I am saying it from the starting that they will fight theirs and we will fight ours.

It has nothing to do with going to war. We can say they are preparing for war when the USMC starts landing exercises in the SCS with other countries and allies like Japan and Australia.

What they are doing right now is pretty much a Trump reelection campaign, nothing to do with India.
 
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