That means she should only say what others tell her to say.
I think pre-April is F6.
Line of Actual Control (LAC) : India & Tibet Border Updates
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That means she should only say what others tell her to say.
I think pre-April is F6.
You have any doubts regarding MEA? The MEA people are messengers they don't contribute much in foreign policy formulation.
That means she should only say what others tell her to say.
I think pre-April is F6.
So status quo ante is F6?
Any confirmation on this?
If so, did we concede F6 - F8 during 62?
Our media has started dancing as if we just defeated China in a war
They are bargaining now like business men. India claims whole Aksai Hind, so they want to divert it from that to point area specific negotiations.
MEA already failed, Shringhla , Jaishanker all are China specialists, what did they acheive, 20 dead bodies of Indian soldiers?Finally Military had to take things under control for negotiation. Total failure of MEA!
@Falcon , Sirji, I saw you are writing very gloomy stuff in another platform, But we have not lost any territory anywhere then what is the reason for your pessimistic view?, Also did we know about Chinese buildup in advance?
MEA was always under the impression that LAC issues can always be tackled by the MEA babus. The current standoff has been a rude awakening for these guys. Because, smooth talking without a credible threat of military action, does not work when push comes to shove.
I suppose telling you that all those border agreements we signed from 1993 onwards which held the peace till 2020 & bought us enough time to improve our infrastructure , modernize & upgrade our forces which we didn't implement in full measure is a waste of time.
No, I think you're correct.
Ladakh face-off | Status quo at Pangong Tso has been changed, says Colonel Dinny (retd.)
The PLA has never taken such a blatant step at Pangong Tso, he says.
No, that hasn't changed. This situation is about the actual physical control of the territories.
I think it's the other way round, Chinese did agreement with you to fetch more time to upgrade themselves to later breach the agreement when they are powerful and that has happened. Luckily, you got 6 years before it happened under MSD (Modi Shah Doval) some how survived the sh*t. But they will return. Fix your MEA to atleast get Nepal Sri Lanka and nearby countries in your favour so that you don't have to burden yourself with 3 front 4 front problem.
Even on this day, it's not Jainshanker but NSA Doval is speaking to Chinese foreign Minister.
What's the use of this man then, when every time be it Myanmar, Pakistan, Russia or China Doval has to intervene. Looks like other countries are more interested and more confident in dealing with Doval than this suited booted MEA ka afser.I am talking about the physical control only. They want India to forget Aksai Hind , just like Pakistan tried to negotiate on Siachen, by making Siachen looking different from J&K problem, through Kargil.
Status quo ante will be the grey zone between F4-F8. Both sides patrolling till these points. If this is not the case, then there is no status quo ante but status quo as on date.So status quo ante is F6?
Any confirmation on this?
If so, did we concede F6 - F8 during 62?
Our media has started dancing as if we just defeated China in a war
Give it 5 days. I am putting my money of Chinks being Chinks and pulling some stunt.
People in media are hyped up a lot.
We need a detailed & proper report on what happened during the disengagement to find out if we lost anything.
F4 - F8 is still a suspect for me, unless proven otherwise.
If they have not done it already.
Sure. Are you expecting the US will go to war with China this year? It's Trump after all.
Basically what @Jaymax said. The Chinese could be pulling wool over our eyes. They probably underestimated the weather for this month and may come back after some time has passed, possibly during the fall.
But we most definitely should not reverse the economic gains we have made. The price should be an equivalent opening up of the Chinese economy for Indian investments in exchange, but definitely no apps. The apps have far reaching consequences and must never be reversed. Rather, more apps should join the list, including making room for future app bans as well.
