Line of Actual Control (LAC) : India & Tibet Border Updates

Aye, that's the problem. I'm old fashioned. I prefer the feel of paper while reading otherwise it's just not meant to be read with me.The stationery I consume makes my superiors grit their teeth & juniors circle their eyeballs. But the paperback / hardback is in excess of 2.5k . That's criminal.

Off topic but since we are discussing Ravi Rikhye - I have been looking for his book the fourth round for a few years. No Luck. Any leads will be much appreciated
 
Off topic but since we are discussing Ravi Rikhye - I have been looking for his book the fourth round for a few years. No Luck. Any leads will be much appreciated
If you're on Twitter , you can DM him. If not, I can ask him. Or maybe not. If he mails me a copy, I'd find it a bit too embarrassing.
 
Well, west may try to do the master's bidding.

It's actually in their interest to attack Jammu, if they get the opportunity on a plate.

I am looking at a possible Chinese action, if at all, around three places - HP-Western Utaarakhand, Chumbi Valley-Dokalam and Arunachal Pradesh.

Will they actually want to create trouble elsewhere at this time, like the Northeast?

But it appears you believe they can't do much in the Northern LAC at this time. That's a pretty good clue.

My musing lead me to concentrate on the Sugar Sector primarily because they can always prod the Pakistanis to move into the Chicken Neck area, where we have, traditionally, found ourselves up the proverbial creek. The pressure can be tremendous if both achieve initial breakthroughs and successes.

Of course, I will ignore the fact that Sugar Sector is a Hornet's nest for the PLA. Reasons are not for publication.

We have an Ide infantry brigade in the Sugar Sector. So we are apparently quite secure there, as per the army. And I'm assuming the RAPIDs in the Chicken Neck can change Pakistani minds.
 
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I reached out to him. He wants to digitize and republish it. I offered to scan it, correct mistakes as well if he would sell me a copy. No Luck !!
He doesn't have any control over the publishers. That's what he claimed. I doubt he has a hard copy of it. Plus he detests proof reading. In which case I can only wonder why didn't he accept your offer. I'd recommend being persistent though I realize it's a bit difficult w/o sounding pushy or sans an altruistic agenda.
 
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I doubt it is even him who is writing.

He never writes anything seriously .... there is a certain style to his writing.

You would know if you had followed his blog orbat.com and different iterations of it ... :)

I feel it is him. Because he mentions many of the same points in his book. That bit about IA taking 3-6 months to actually defeat the PA. PLA reinforcing PA with air defence and marine/para brigades as well. Along with the part about GoI's insistence on not losing ground in any sector no matter what. All 3 points are present in his 2018 book.

He sincerely believes IA cannot do any damage to the PA via Cold Start and will take many months to defeat PA in an all-out war. Hence his insistence on creating two different armies focused on each enemy along with extra two or three corps as reserve without focusing on swing troops as the IA does today.
 
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We moved in on the heights on the southern bank of PT and that decieved PLA into believing that we are interested in those heights only but we simultaneously also moved on the heights on the south of Spangur Tso which allowed us to encircle the PLA from all sides and dominate the road linking Spangur Tso garrison of PLA with Rutog. Any single move to the southern bank of PT would have exposed our own forces to encirclement and being sandwiched between the Northern and southern bank by the Spangur Garrison of PLA.

Yes. But our move on the hills to the south of spangur was a major tactical masterpiece. PLA never anticipated this move and now they are completely encircled with no resupply available to them. If you may recall my post with two maps, I had very clearly stated that when we move from the southern bank of PT, we must also move from the south of Spangur from Rezang La side to threaten Rutog. Our forces have done exactly that and I agree with the tweet of Baba Banaras that we have blocked the road joining Rutog to the Spangur Tso garrison. Without that move our own forces would have been on the recieving end. The PLA garrison around Spangur Tso have only two options- surrender or die fighting to the last men. PLA has been friends with Pak Army for sometime now so I think that they will prefer to surrender. A man is known by the books he reads and the company he keeps. PLA is in august company of PA now so they will behave like a typical surrender army.

The news says we seem to have taken Reqin La. But have we also taken the main mountain in the south east of the lake? The one that overlooks the PLA post in the central area of the south bank of the lake? 'Cause that looks like the only real way to block the road to Rutog.
 
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None of those reasons. I have already answered this in another thread. Until we get the ability to challenge the US, we can't change status quo.
That does not explain how Pakistan can freely attack Jammu right now without challenging the US or UAE for that matter. If they can attack Jammu the only reason India cann't do anything is sheer incompetence.
 
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Thanks for the map. Can you explain it a bit further?

1) So we cut off the road connecting Spanggur tso and pangong tso (which lies just east of black top & helmet) by occupying black top and helmet?
2) HOw did we cut off the road from tibet to spanggur tso? The road is going right through the southern side of spanggur tso

We did not physically cut off those roads. But by taking over the mountain tops overlooking those roads, we can keep those roads under observation and direct artillery fire and air strikes whenever we want to. So the entire region becomes dangerous to the Chinese.
 


I was expecting a build up in Dokalam.
Just before winter sets in, our whole LAC stretch could become active. Now the question is, does PLA have the will and the intent to fight.
Once it starts to snow, the window will be closed.

Mounting ops during winter will be really difficult for China due to logistics issues.
Time is running out and fast for China now.

This is what happens when a country shows intent!
 
Thanks for the map. Can you explain it a bit further?

1) So we cut off the road connecting Spanggur tso and pangong tso (which lies just east of black top & helmet) by occupying black top and helmet?
2) HOw did we cut off the road from tibet to spanggur tso? The road is going right through the southern side of spanggur tso
We cut off the southern side by occupying heights East of LAC at Reqin La
The BILLION dollar Question is
WHY has Pakistan not yet made any
Aggressive maneuvers

Their Steering wheel is missing :)
 
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The news says we seem to have taken Reqin La. But have we also taken the main mountain in the south east of the lake? The one that overlooks the PLA post in the central area of the south bank of the lake? 'Cause that looks like the only real way to block the road to Rutog.
The road joining Rutog to Spangur Tso garrison is along the southern bank of Spangur Tso and by occupying those heights in the south we have cutoff/blocked this road.
 
That does not explain how Pakistan can freely attack Jammu right now without challenging the US or UAE for that matter. If they can attack Jammu the only reason India cann't do anything is sheer incompetence.

This is getting ridiculous. Pakistan is under one person's thumb or the other. The owner of that thumb is a very powerful country. Always. India needs to build up its own thumb that's strong enough to put a country of 200 million under it, that's not today.

Pakistan can attack Jammu as long as they have the blessings of China, even if the US opposes because the Chinese thumb is more or less good enough to push back the US thumb.

Otoh, we are not under anyone's thumb because we have decided that's how it's gonna be. The drawback is without the support of the owner of a powerful thumb, we can't do anything either. Had we decided to go under the US thumb after independence, we would have been the boss of the entire IOR and Pak would never have become a threat to us. Pak became a threat to us because they decided to go under the US thumb instead.

Do note I chose to use the word "thumb" instead of "wing" because being under someone's wing is not embarassing. And I told you earlier, until we get to the point where we can afford anywhere between 50-200 Rafales or equivalent per year, we aren't capable of playing in the big leagues.
 
The road joining Rutog to Spangur Tso garrison is along the southern bank of Spangur Tso and by occupying those heights in the south we have cutoff/blocked this road.

It appears they will now have to bring in boats in order to maintian logistics supplies to the gap.