Line of Actual Control (LAC) : India & Tibet Border Updates
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That depiction is about the ridgelines only. I had posted a map earlier to show as to where we are now sitting. Please do not get confused by it.
Our perception is now revised to our borders as shown in our map. We have increased the scope of LAC which was actually AGPL for chinese and therefore floating in nature which allowed them to do slami slicing. We will do reverse salami slicing on them now. Wang Yi is going to be sacked soon.
This map is correct map regarding fingers. Khurnak fort was captured in 1962 and destroyed by Chinese. The Indian border as per our map includes Khurnak fort. Sirijap is east of finger-8 and our border runs thru the middle ground of the valley from sirijap to north and than turns east to Kongka La to Lanak La and then further east and North along kunlun range.There is no clarity on the fingers. Can you tell us which one is the correct one?
Based on Col Dinny's words, Sirijap is east of Finger 8 and does not go up to our claim line at Khurnak.
The Chinese are at Sirijap, which is 8 km east of Finger 8.
Ladakh face-off | Status quo at Pangong Tso has been changed, says Colonel Dinny (retd.)
The PLA has never taken such a blatant step at Pangong Tso, he says.www.thehindu.com
So I consider the first image as the correct one.
Bro, if you may recall, I did appriciation of our air strength vs PLAAF on your request but at that time refrained from making an appriciation of ground battles as I thought that my thought process is very aligned to Indian strategic thinking and may give out a lot of stuff. But after sometime, in afterthought, I decided to go ahead with it and my fears have come true. IA is doing exactly what I had planned. Luckily for us, this being a blog and I being a spent Kartoos from IN that too from Fighter Branch, no one took me seriously and read my appriciation of land battle. Let us wait for sometime.
It seems some OSINT guys are reporting things based on what I have been posting here and seem to have no clue of what exactly is happening on ground. As of now, we will continue to move forward and continue to talk. Every talk will fail. We have still not reached the stage where we completely dominate them and can extract meaningful concessions. IA is completely against giving up the ground occupied and are willing for a fight to recover full Aksai Hind. Chinese thought they can pressure us into accepting the new normal but now we want full Aksai Hind or we will fight to recover it.
We can not give up the advantage gained now and fight PLA again in november. A large part of the ridgelines that we have occupied will be rendered unfit for anykind of military operations once winters set in, especially the Gogra/Hot spring area which are connected thru a pass as high as 17k feet. Whatever our military objectives are, have to be achieved by Oct.
PLA can't bring in more reinforcements in Aksai Hind in next 15-20 days as we are now dominating all across LAC. If we give them time to recoup, we will emerge loosers in the game.
Boss, Pressure must be increased further.
There is no clarity on the fingers. Can you tell us which one is the correct one?
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Based on Col Dinny's words, Sirijap is east of Finger 8 and does not go up to our claim line at Khurnak.
The Chinese are at Sirijap, which is 8 km east of Finger 8.Ladakh face-off | Status quo at Pangong Tso has been changed, says Colonel Dinny (retd.)
The PLA has never taken such a blatant step at Pangong Tso, he says.
So I consider the first image as the correct one.
You asked a good question. There is a difference between topological fingers and the fingers IA marked in its patrol records.
IA marked "Fingers" not based on the Mountain topological fingers and the 1st image shown is the one used by IA to record patrols.
So when ex IA guys say we used to patrol till finger 8, They mean the finger 8 given in the 1st picture, ie finger 5 of topological map.
Our troops never had acces to topological finger 8, ever,after 62 war. There is a huge Chinese complex around finger 6 for decades with boats and the personals from there used to block IA when we reach finger 5 (Topological)
This time we are going to sing, "aaja aaja, main hu pyaar tera, allah, allah, intezaar tera". And Hum tum ek kamray main band hoan or chabi khojayeh. Imagine what will happen in that band kamra?
Online games get often updates. If it blocked it wont get update and will stop working soon as server will reject old version. In place updates are possible but even they run out soon.
Will you elaborate what do you mean by "needed".
I don't remember anyone calling 1971 war a final match between India and Pakistan. IIRC, Indira Gandhi was pretty quick in declaring victory once Dhaka fell. Wars are fought according to objectives not according to "needs". Infact what is needed and who the hell defines it? Unless you have a source from that time who defined that "need", its your own invention. So, it does not matter.
Here is what PC Lal, ACM at that point, states in his memoirs,
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Indian Defence Review (IDR), quarterly journal, the brainchild of former captain of the Indian Army, was launched on January 1, 1986 as a logical continuum to Lancer established in 1979, the first Indian publishing house dedicated to put forward the military experience and point of view.
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If the objective was to hold Pakistani forces in west, we did it remarkably well. Heck we destroyed one third of their navy while we were at it in the west is a good bonus.
He is right about the incident but wrong about the count. We killed over 15 PLA guys that night to take over that post over Moldo north of Spangur Tso. Rest were held as POWs who were returned to PLA on 31st Aug.
IA has its share of kills and so do IAF, IN is still hungry in surgical strikes. Let the baloon go up in Aksai Hind, Pakistan will know what IN is capable of. We will even sink PLAN ships hiding in Djibouthi. Do not mess with IN in IOR. Its our play ground.
Interesting that the Americans have started speaking about Dalai lama at the same time that we revealed the presence of Tibetan origin soldiers in our ranks. Seems to be a coordinated action.
Means diplomatically the gloves are coming off as tibet is one of the weak points in Chinese psyche and a direct repudiation of the one China policy.
The Chinese are being publicly shamed and even their iron green undies have started questioning the Chinese resolve.
Some very interesting days ahead. I anticipate a serious clash in the next fortnight after the Chinese have regrouped.
This is based solely on their ego wrt a perceived weaker nation.
Means diplomatically the gloves are coming off as tibet is one of the weak points in Chinese psyche and a direct repudiation of the one China policy.
The Chinese are being publicly shamed and even their iron green undies have started questioning the Chinese resolve.
Some very interesting days ahead. I anticipate a serious clash in the next fortnight after the Chinese have regrouped.
This is based solely on their ego wrt a perceived weaker nation.
LAC is a Himalayan puzzle now.
India should play Taiwan and Tibet cards and torpedo China's one nation policy.They are very much scared about this policy change.
Note that India is the first country supported China's One nation policy (Dr Manmohan Singh).
India should play Taiwan and Tibet cards and torpedo China's one nation policy.They are very much scared about this policy change.
Note that India is the first country supported China's One nation policy (Dr Manmohan Singh).
Well, all India needs to do now is to push that police park out of new delhi and put Taiwanese embassy there. Right bang in front of Chinese embassy.
Updates should be independent from the Play Store though. Once it's installed, the updates will come in straight from the game server.
Android apps need to be updated directly from PlayStore. Despite the fact that you can push some updates through the app, but for security reasons, that cannot include app modules - resource files. Mostly games/apps need the code update and not only resource updates, which is only possible via playstore. I am not aware of how Apple Store works, but this is the case for Android.
The only apps I use are youtube and whatsapp. Both are updated via Playstore. I think this will be the case with other apps too.
Unless PSU's run defence-production in this nation, unless OFB labour-unions continue holding India hostage - what you are demanding will remain a tall-order. Left narrative needs to be handled more adroitly.
We don't even need to play US-China against each other, they are already at loggerheads.
Had that been enough, we would have been more adventurous.
Did that desist China from threatening its neighbors & slicing/grabbing their land-parcels ?
Pandemic limits us more severely than it has crippled PRC (they own it), when it comes o fighting a long war, as compared so a series of skirmishes/battles or a limited war (if you will). The latter is what India expects to desist China & restore status-quo through some sort of land-swap, achieved by forcing PLA on the tables.