Photo taken from @rajfortyseven. See the oxygen cylinder in their rec rooms. This is a PLA barrack in Tibet.
See the chink in the back - exercising with a heavy woolen hat on... that alone tells you this was a photo op pic.
Line of Actual Control (LAC) : India & Tibet Border Updates
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Photo taken from @rajfortyseven. See the oxygen cylinder in their rec rooms. This is a PLA barrack in Tibet.
See the chink in the back - exercising with a heavy woolen hat on... that alone tells you this was a photo op pic.
Hey guys...new member here
What can we expect from all these brig. Com. Meetings everyday which are inconclusive?
I mean what are they meant to achieve?
If our prep is complete shouldn't we just go all in before chinese can prepare, i cant see how are talks going to diffuse the situation now.
And what would be the end goal of IA and GOI in this situation?
Hello Sir , Welcome to our Forum
These talks are just India' s way to show the world that we have tried everything for peace
Secondly if China really wants peace and friendship , they can easily Pull Back and demarcate the LAC
But that would destroy their Big Power image
We have to be prepared.for all types of conflict
From low intensity localized action
To a Two Front war
The Ball is in China's court
We will try to further improve and strengthen our position before Winter sets in
Hey guys...new member here
What can we expect from all these brig. Com. Meetings everyday which are inconclusive?
I mean what are they meant to achieve?
If our prep is complete shouldn't we just go all in before chinese can prepare, i cant see how are talks going to diffuse the situation now.
And what would be the end goal of IA and GOI in this situation?
Go through the past pages, you will get the answers. Meetings are mostly decoys for readjustment on ground.
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PLA commanders know that too. Infact, September is the month when 2 lakhs of these conscripts were supposed to be replaced by another 2 lakhs taken from colleges. Those of that deployed along LAC are ready to scoot back home if granted permission. They are already making plans for their career and least of their future concerns is getting acclimatized at 16000 feet (Those in MNCs who have served notice period will relate to it). So all their actions in battlefield will be driven by their own well-being.
IMHO, we might have disengagement and reversion to pre April status with a minor change. IA will insist on revised patrol points and revised patrolling areas based on what we have taken over from PLA now. It is impossible for Modi to give back the lands we have now captured without a significant gain.Hey guys...new member here
What can we expect from all these brig. Com. Meetings everyday which are inconclusive?
I mean what are they meant to achieve?
If our prep is complete shouldn't we just go all in before chinese can prepare, i cant see how are talks going to diffuse the situation now.
And what would be the end goal of IA and GOI in this situation?
In case PLA goes into offensive, we will go for whole of Aksai Hind and a ceasefire will only be agreed on the condition that China settles the entire boundary issue with border pillars erected to demarcate it which they have never agreed to till date. They have even refused to share maps to show their claim lines.
For us it is a golden chance to recover our areas from China and we must not agree to reversion to status quo as of April. Keep talking to them and keep occupying dominating features. Please read my earlier posts, I had clearly stated that all talks are designed to fail only. Diplomacy is a very useful tool to buy time till we are ready to opt for the military option. We are now ready for Pakistan and China.
In case of two front war, we will go for Pakistan first as our land borders are shorter with them and once we create separate nations like Sindhudesh and Balochistan out of them, we will be able to maintain control of these new territories with local support with minimal forces. This will allow us to concentrate all our forces along LAC to go for libration of Tibet.
CCP rules China. They can easily force these guys to remain in service as long as they want. Just the way we have stopped retirement of arty guys.
I absolutely stand by it.
Because you can not physically hold every point.
Also, they found a 'defensive' India. The points taken from them were thinly held, more of Observation posts, maybe 6 - 10 personnel maximum.
Sugar Sector is a hornet's nest.
Beyond that, nothing much to say. Chinese are welcome there.
Well, to fully defeat an enemy, will certainly take months, may be years. But when we talk of defeat, we talk in terms of failure of the enemy to mount an effective defence to check advance in their territory.
Please understand that holding of nodes is not exactly our priority - unless it significantly alters their ability to mount an effective defence.
In mountains, you can simply bypass resistance, as PLA did in 1962 in Arunachal.
I think the Chinese have deployed 1 mechanised, 1 motorised (8x8) and multiple infantry brigades.
Also, any PAP deployment is unknown in open source. IIRC over a dozen PLA divisions were transferred over to the PAP since the 2000s. So you can't really consider manpower a problem for them.
For those who do not know, the Chinese ground forces are divided into the regular PLAGF supported by the defence budget and the PAP supported by the internal security budget. While the PLAGF's strength has reduced to less than a million, all that reduced strength has been sent into the PAP. So the PAP is about 1.5 million strong and many of those consist of PLAGF's earlier divisions. The mobile force within PAP is estimated to be 14 divisions strong. This is how they hide the true strength of their army, by calling them armed police. There's also a third category, under the PLAGF, which are reserve forces, and these are 500,000 to a million strong as well. There are other types of units as well, like Border Defence Guards similar to BSF, ITBP etc under the Ministry of Public Security. There's also the Bingtuan (they mainly perform economic activities, but perform combat duties as well, also the ones running the concentration camps in Xinjiang) and Militia (basic conscripts), these two collectively making over 10 million men. In simple words, China has 5 different armies for a grand total of anywhere between 12-15 million men. The actual strength of most of these forces are unknown, and most of them are put to work, so they pay their way as the CPC's exclusive labour force. And then, facing India, there are 40k troops in the TMD and 70k troops in the XMD. So the PLAGF is only a drop in the bucket under the CMC.
He still does comment on women with pics uploaded on his TL from time to time. Not as frequently as before though. You know how it goes. Once a tharki always a tharki.In that case, enquire of the beautiful women in the gym who used to motivate him
Hey guys...new member here
What can we expect from all these brig. Com. Meetings everyday which are inconclusive?
I mean what are they meant to achieve?
If our prep is complete shouldn't we just go all in before chinese can prepare, i cant see how are talks going to diffuse the situation now.
And what would be the end goal of IA and GOI in this situation?
Welcome.
Talks happen for two reasons. Either for giving a chance for peace and resolve the situation, perhaps including some give and/or take. Or to buy time while we reinforce our positions and prepare for war, which could take a few weeks to a few months.