Line of Actual Control (LAC) : India & Tibet Border Updates

All these aircraft have 700 km+ range with full payload.


It was a very hostile place for Indian Forces in 1994. The locals were very strongly in favour of LTTE and they would not even let us have water from the wells. In one such case, they even attacked IN sailors and they had to open fire killing a local to save themselves. LTTE had a major transit point in that area due to this solid support of Locals and these locals used to even inform them about our movements.
Still there is strong pro LTTE sentiment existing there.
Insted of blaming his political party affinity, we should seriously look in to the matter. Something unfavorable to military interest definitely happened there.
 
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Insted of blaming his political party affinity, we should seriously look in to the matter. Something unfavorable to military interest definitely happened there.


Yeah .. same shit different day at LAC. Nothing which has not been happening historically.

Interestingly, this is becoming mainstream just as we start to open up our economy post COVID lockdown and the GoI looks well supported even though everyone knows that the economy took a severe beating, because people survived, contrary to expectations and GoI can be credited with actually containing the problem unlike elsewhere in the world.

Not much political traction will be gained harping of economy as GoI ramps up infra expenditure. So …. :)
 
The only thing I would say about Ajai Shukla is he has been proven to be wrong multiple times in the past even in matters purely military including functions of various weapons. A Pakistani troll is more credible than he is. I shudder to think how people like him make it to Colonel not because of his views but due to his ignorance. Any time someone cross questions him, his best comeback is you are a Modi bhakt!
What about general panag?
I would rather go with a Lt Gen who is making his case with satellite imagery and images of the topography than somebody just saying China occupied so and so. And there are many who are making their case that way.
 
The only thing I would say about Ajai Shukla is he has been proven to be wrong multiple times in the past even in matters purely military including functions of various weapons. A Pakistani troll is more credible than he is. I shudder to think how people like him make it to Colonel not because of his views but due to his ignorance. Any time someone cross questions him, his best comeback is you are a Modi bhakt!

Ajai Shukla is still a young man

He knows that if in 2024 , Congress comes to power , he might become a Minister

So he is just trying to impress his political bosses by abusing both the Army and the Govt

If the Govt wanted a compromise
Why would they carry on talks till now

You can compromise on the First Day itself

 
You are overestimating a 2 bit mercenary my friend. The max. he would be able to get is some cash, more columns and membership of elite clubs in Delhi like the Delhi Gymkhana, IIC, Delhi Golf Club etc.
Ajai Shukla is still a young man

He knows that if in 2024 , Congress comes to power , he might become a Minister

So he is just trying to impress his political bosses by abusing both the Army and the Govt

If the Govt wanted a compromise
Why would they carry on talks till now

You can compromise on the First Day itself
 
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He is AAP associated guy. He has changed PHYSICAL geography in his articles to further his agenda.
Is there any problem in associating with AAP? He was a major general in IA, i will give his wordings some weightage than the silence of the ruling government.
If nothing happened in LAC as advertised by some in sm & various defense forums,our military & government wouldn't have engaged with chinese a marathon discussions.
 
We are dishing out some good stuff -



Looks like we are finally starting to reply the Chinese propaganda videos.

Honestly, now lets compare their AC BUS military to these :D :p
Difference is From our side its only civilians doing all the dirty work, while since English is alien to 95% Chinease. They have set up special Pravada like propaganda units such as CGTN, Global times. Its all govt controlled misinformation and propaganda campaign.
 
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Is there any problem in associating with AAP? He was a major general in IA, i will give his wordings some weightage than the silence of the ruling government.
If nothing happened in LAC as advertised by some in sm & various defense forums,our military & government wouldn't have engaged with chinese a marathon discussions.
Yes it Is. He is doing everything to malign the opposition which is in power. And since military also serves the civilian govt, so the IA is also being targeted. Like Rafale Scam. All the Ex-Servicemen including Panag peddled fake information just to malign GOI.
 

This is what makes me question our strategy. Having known China, if they were confident of steam rolling us, they would have started a fight long back.
The very reason they didn't is they are not confident & also the ratio of what they can gain vs what they can lose doesn't look great from Chinese perspective. In such case, why can't we take the Chinese to the task when we know for a fact that they don't want to fight & this is all bluff & bluster?

In the current scenario, China is the aggressor - as they started the offensive build up near our border, every body knows it.
But still we can't do anything.
 
This is what makes me question our strategy. Having known China, if they were confident of steam rolling us, they would have started a fight long back.
The very reason they didn't is they are not confident & also the ratio of what they can gain vs what they can lose doesn't look great from Chinese perspective. In such case, why can't we take the Chinese to the task when we know for a fact that they don't want to fight & this is all bluff & bluster?

In the current scenario, China is the aggressor - as they started the offensive build up near our border, every body knows it.
But still we can't do anything.
Consider the Chinese ready to escalate / initiate hostilities the day they've shifted their TBM NLOS-BSM of 500 kms or less by the PLA Rocket Forces near the front lines apart from significant numbers of aircraft squadrons to air fields & bases near the LAC. I don't think the latter would take time to mobilise & deploy though the former would.

Why do I say so? Coz if this battle follows predictable patterns like the 1962 war, it'd involve deployment of insane quantities of men like the wave formations PLA deployed in the Korean & more pertinently to India in the 1962 war which won them the war then but plays entirely into our hands as that's how we've war gamed against & prepared ourselves giving us the upper hand this time around in such skirmishes, something which would definitely go against the Chinese & something they'd wish to avoid.

This engagement would begin with serious artillery barrages using those MBRLs & BSM to soften up our bases, logistical lines, troop concentrations tank & artillery units.

Expect significant electronic & cyber warfare to disrupt communications, war waging abilities apart from damaging our financial, economic, commercial & other interests deep in the hinterland.

They've already deployed significant quantities of MBRL's of varying range & calibre right across the LAC apart from troop augmentation, artillery & tank deployment apart from the logistics train.

In any case India won't initiate hostilities. We'd be reacting to it.
 
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