Line of Actual Control (LAC) : India & Tibet Border Updates

Middle Kingdom has claim over whole world. Question is does it has the required capability to acheive that??
It may not have as of now, but look at the rate at whuch their economy is blooming. You like it or not, they will soon overtake Uncle sam. With such surplus money they may venture in to such mischiefs, better we get prepared or else another LAC type drama ocvur in its worst avatar by loosing A&N to that yellow snakes.
 
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It may not have as of now, but look at the rate at whuch their economy is blooming. You like it or not, they will soon overtake Uncle sam. With such surplus money they may venture in to such mischiefs, better we get prepared or else another LAC type drama ocvur in its worst avatar by loosing A&N to that yellow snakes.
I agree. A rapid expansion of our navy is much needed. We must possess the capability to not only defend IOR from any Chinese mischief but also to intervene in a possible conflict in SCS b/w our friends and China.
 
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Ok, gonna be honest here, I am not liking this.
We are allowing build up right at our backyard.
We all know what happened when Russia set up BMs at Cuba. Agreed, these are not BMs still these are quite aggressive build ups. I wonder how the likes of US and Russia would react to such provocations. After one point, I don't feel like diplomacy can answer a bully the way use of sharp force would. By going the diplomatic route we are providing time to China to build up, set up and increase the concentration at our border.
I guess, our military leadership is ok with this. I sincerely hope that they are not miscalculating here.
 
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Ok, gonna be honest here, I am not liking this.
We are allowing build up right at our backyard.
We all know what happened when Russia set up BMs at Cuba. Agreed, these are not BMs still these are quite aggressive build ups. I wonder how the likes of US and Russia would react to such provocations. After one point, I don't feel like diplomacy can answer a bully the way use of sharp force would. By going the diplomatic route we are providing time to China to build up, set up and increase the concentration at our border.
I guess, our military leadership is ok with this. I sincerely hope that they are not miscalculating here.
It is exactly the same discussion we and @randomradio were having a couple of days ago. He said and rightly so that we should take the initiative. And I too expressed my disappointment over the reactive response of our government. Every minute we waste would may cost a life of our soldier to defend our integrity. We should attack NOW.
 
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Ok, gonna be honest here, I am not liking this.
We are allowing build up right at our backyard.
We all know what happened when Russia set up BMs at Cuba. Agreed, these are not BMs still these are quite aggressive build ups. I wonder how the likes of US and Russia would react to such provocations. After one point, I don't feel like diplomacy can answer a bully the way use of sharp force would. By going the diplomatic route we are providing time to China to build up, set up and increase the concentration at our border.
I guess, our military leadership is ok with this. I sincerely hope that they are not miscalculating here.
This what happens when you are not giving priority to our armed forces requirements. IAF not even a position to map those deployment, they dont have any jstar type aircraft.
 
assumptions is the mother of all f ups that take place. Himalayas will prevent chinese invasion thought some ppl. Nehru thought chinese are our frnds. Assume at your own risk.

Agreed. In a war like scenario nothing should be left to assumptions. However, Chinese have not started the pyrotechnics yet, there has gotta be a reason.

It is exactly the same discussion we and @randomradio were having a couple of days ago. He said and rightly so that we should take the initiative. And I too expressed my disappointment over the reactive response of our government. Every minute we waste would may cost a life of our soldier to defend our integrity. We should attack NOW.


Add to that the silence from GoI and our Military.
It's not helping the cause. Aggression is something that is part of being. I guess we are not aggressive by nature, as this is the opportune time to show aggressive attitude. China's build up is aggressive by nature, ours is reactive. It's time we become aggressive and force them to react.
Precious time is being lost in the diplomatic crap.
Diplomacy should work in parallel with offensive, then it has a chance to succeed, when used as a singular tool, it does very less other than portray the nation as weakling.
 
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Ok, gonna be honest here, I am not liking this.
We are allowing build up right at our backyard.
We all know what happened when Russia set up BMs at Cuba. Agreed, these are not BMs still these are quite aggressive build ups. I wonder how the likes of US and Russia would react to such provocations. After one point, I don't feel like diplomacy can answer a bully the way use of sharp force would. By going the diplomatic route we are providing time to China to build up, set up and increase the concentration at our border.
I guess, our military leadership is ok with this. I sincerely hope that they are not miscalculating here.
Its PHL-03 Not PCL-191
 
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Agreed. In a war like scenario nothing should be left to assumptions. However, Chinese have not started the pyrotechnics yet, there has gotta be a reason.
Its all optics. No one advertises that they are going to attack the neighbour. Don’t fell for it. Doklam is being repeated again.
Wumaos are bluffing.

No one lines up all his artillery in a plane site so that it can easily be wiped out by deep strike by enemy airforce.
And do you seriously think that all these buses and trains are gonna help them in a full fledged war ?
 
Its all optics. No one advertises that they are going to attack the neighbour. Don’t fell for it. Doklam is being repeated again.
Wumaos are bluffing.

No one lines up all his artillery in a plane site so that it can easily be wiped out by deep strike by enemy airforce.
And do you seriously think that all these buses and trains are gonna help them in a full fledged war ?
Tell me which aircraft in IAF inventory is capable to drop pay load around 400km deep inside tibet?
 
Tell me which aircraft in IAF inventory is capable to drop pay load around 400km deep inside tibet?
Many like Su30, M2000. Not sure about Jaguar though.
For them to target our locations they have to come less than 200 km from the LAC.
Best would be to use stand off weapons like S2000
 
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Its all optics. No one advertises that they are going to attack the neighbour. Don’t fell for it. Doklam is being repeated again.
Wumaos are bluffing.

No one lines up all his artillery in a plane site so that it can easily be wiped out by deep strike by enemy airforce.
And do you seriously think that all these buses and trains are gonna help them in a full fledged war ?

I don't honestly care if they will actually cross the line and attack. My point is, their posture is agressive and threatening. That should be sufficient for a preemptive strike. As for their arty positions, we have no idea what kind of defence they have set up in the time they got, so we are not in a position to comment.
However, it is my understanding that if we take the initiative and force them to fight while they are not fully ready, we can
push them back.
 
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Its total 700+km combat radius, that too it has to achieve in thin air in high altitude...

Su 30, Mirage 2000, Jaguar - however M2000 and Jaguar are our fighters of choice for ground attack role. Su 30s , mig 29s will be used to provide cover for the strike package.

Experts here please correct me if I am wrong.
 
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Su 30, Mirage 2000, Jaguar - however M2000 and Jaguar are our fighters of choice for ground attack role. Su 30s , mig 29s will be used to provide cover for the strike package.

Experts here please correct me if I am wrong.
I am not doubting of mki, mirage jags o combat radius, doubt is on wether these aircraft can travel 700+km with meaningful load over tibet?
 
Its total 700+km combat radius, that too it has to achieve in thin air in high altitude...
Dont see any problem here.


IAF routinely practices high altitude bombings

 
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I don't honestly care if they will actually cross the line and attack. My point is, their posture is agressive and threatening. That should be sufficient for a preemptive strike. As for their arty positions, we have no idea what kind of defence they have set up in the time they got, so we are not in a position to comment.
However, it is my understanding that if we take the initiative and force them to fight while they are not fully ready, we can
push them back.
Buddy we are not US so we shouldt act like them.
Clearly they are posturing us to backdown. Which we will not.
Preemptive strike will be an act of war.
I am not doubting of mki, mirage jags o combat radius, doubt is on wether these aircraft can travel 700+km with meaningful load over tibet?
We bombed Kargil peaks using M2000 and Migs
 
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