Line of Actual Control (LAC) : India & Tibet Border Updates
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India's action will be watched by other smaller southeast Asian country , Strong decisions will be taken in order to show the power projection in Southeast Asia.
For one thing, this meeting is not exactly making headlines in China.
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I’m not in favour of bravado. But a well calculated and firm action that will reflect our intensions to enemies pretty clearly.
Also a morale booster to allies like Vietnam , Japan to show more trust in our capabilities to handle China at least in western front. And deterrence to potential trouble makers like Nepal, Bangladesh , Srilanka etc
They should check India's mobilization post Pulwama attack and more so after Balakot Strikes. They will not post these embarrassing news.
For one thing, this meeting is not exactly making headlines in China.
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They didn't gain anything, that's for sure.
Otherwise chinese media would have started going gaga over it already.
Yeah, it does, but like I said, it will not see any action.
It's time people stop taking this news source seriously, it's like Xi Jinping's personal news agency.
AF Stn Kalaikunda was used by USAF in 1963. I was posted there with IAF 20 Sqn in 1991-92. It is a full complex and a huge base.
AFS Kalaikunda is an interesting one which is jointly operated by Eastern air command and the Andaman Command. There were initially plans to permanently have a Su30 squadron there but it was later shelved (I think that squadron moved to Thanjavur). The air base is now mainly used by Singapore air force's F16s. Also, the recent Cope India 2018 with US was in Kalaikunda.
CCP is rivaling the mighty Commi USSR in propaganda department.
Its genuinely good
@shaxm is right . Its a communist thing.
Its an inherent characteristic/flaw of communist society. Their insatiable hunger for resources is what’s make them expansionist.
Leaving aside the whole Tibet fiasco and how the british and the Indians both helped the Chinese take Tibet. When I was saying middle kingdom is a recent phenomenon is that it has come to non Chinese knowledge in recent times. The main reason for '62 war was for two simple reasons. To secure the G219 highway which was already under Chinese control and make it clear to the Indians. The other was to teach a lesson to the Indian imperialist to claim Chinese lands. The larger historic thinking of middle kingdom at that time was not used. The demands only increased after such events where they have started doing salami slicing. The intrusions we face currently is because of Chinese arrogance and to secure more of this by justifying the middle Kingdom phenomenon. Allying with the Chinese is basically accepting vassalage of China. In case of U.S we can still have a more balanced relationship. We don't need to accept every U.S demand.
Why are we thinking like some small time shit hole like Kuwait and Pakistan? We are one of the largest economy in the world with a similarly large military. We don't need U.S to lead us in wars. What we need is there technology and weapons. When talking about allying with the Americans we don't need to base U.S troops. You share your mutual interests. Simply start manufacturing arms with the help of U.S MIC. If the Chinese problem is someday solved well and good if it's not simply keep biding your time like the Chinese. How is it so difficult to understand ? We don't need American personnel we need American technology rest of the things we can handle ourselves. U. S help may come may not come just get that Gucci technology. And to think the Russians will stop selling us weapons we are still bribing them by buying there systems. Our fight is with the Chinese not the Russians. And Russia is a swing state. There is saying of Russian Emperor Alexander III to the effect "everybody is scared by Russia’s vastness" and that the country has just two allies - the army and the navy. So it will pretty much be NAM like us trading with both the Chinese and Us. We just need to hyphenate the American and Russian relationship. In a way we can even be the bridge to ally the Russians with the Americans..
it means being prepared for worst case scenario right before it even comes and make this realize to the adversary. They are crouching on your land and you are taking things like pudding. Sometimes, it seems Indians are not serious enough to protect their borders like always.
To compete China you either need to steal the tech or develop at home.
@vstol Jockey Sorry sir. It was Philippines
and Duterte and not the Indonesia who surrendered to China.
That said since the coup Indonesia was firmly in Chinease camp. Its the recent resurgence against aggressive chinesse Champaigns like 9 dash lines and capturing their islands , they made Joko Widodo change his mind and take stance against China
U.S continues to back the Pakistanis because of the unreliability of the Indians. The problem is with the Indian establishment too. To not accept U.S pushes for a closer alliance. If you want the Americans to completely ditch Pakistan we have to become the replacement for the Pakistanis and by that we will have to involve ourselves in Afghanistan. In a way if we involve ourselves in Afghanistan our actions in PoK will be given more legitimacy by the Americans themselves. So we might end up having open support in invading Gilgit and PoK by U.S deep state. This also helps us in increasing our influence in Afghanistan. A lot of people here would reject getting involved in Afghan geopolitics and it's a perfectly rational claim to be cautious of central asian geopolitics. But unless we don't actively involve ourselves in Afghanistan we don't have any chance in U.S ditching the Pakistanis. Also they don't care much about India. Right now they consider us ideologically similar to us and so they are open to allying with us.
And that's why when I say we should ally with U.S it's should be similar to how the Chinese did it. A bait and switch tactic. Ally and get their industry and technology and develop yourselves. Our people are already slaves to urban naxals, Christianity and liberalism. So we really do not lose anything . If the U.S makes us an antagonist simply ditch them get sanctioned and make new allies. Why are we so fearful of taking risk here...
What if India loses this limited skirmish and China encroaches on the land and annexes it. Will India simply let it go?
Its more to do with economy than anything else. We are a huge developing country and we need a huge economy to survive and progress further
I have been reading the posts and following all the relevant people on twitter. One thing that I notice is, our lack of interest in propaganda.
Chinese are doing it, it's not for our military or government as they know what they are capable of. It's for the Noobs and general people who watch and believe what they are fed via news.
Yes such gullible people exist.
The point is, they exist everywhere, also on China.
Right after the meet, we see global times aka China times, comes out with a dashing video which supposedly should make us awestruck.
People with interest and knowledge will laugh it off, but consider the majority, watching that on news be like - "*censored* no..we don't want another war".
We don't even try to do the same to chinese people, and I am sure that these kind of videos will have exact same effect on them as well.
Information warfare is the next generation and we have been found wanting in that department for quite some time.
The problem is, it's fine to do mistakes as long as you learn from it, but our government doesn't seem to be taking the right lesson from all that has happened and is happening.
People who are more experienced in the matter can probably shed more light on this.
Chinese are doing it, it's not for our military or government as they know what they are capable of. It's for the Noobs and general people who watch and believe what they are fed via news.
Yes such gullible people exist.
The point is, they exist everywhere, also on China.
Right after the meet, we see global times aka China times, comes out with a dashing video which supposedly should make us awestruck.
People with interest and knowledge will laugh it off, but consider the majority, watching that on news be like - "*censored* no..we don't want another war".
We don't even try to do the same to chinese people, and I am sure that these kind of videos will have exact same effect on them as well.
Information warfare is the next generation and we have been found wanting in that department for quite some time.
The problem is, it's fine to do mistakes as long as you learn from it, but our government doesn't seem to be taking the right lesson from all that has happened and is happening.
People who are more experienced in the matter can probably shed more light on this.