Line of Actual Control (LAC) : India & Tibet Border Updates

[vstol Jockey]

Apologies. I thought this was open source knowledge now.

it is incomplete knowledge.

Can @Falcon @vstol Jockey or someone else knowledgable please shed light on whether enough number of Agni V's have been inducted. If not how are we supposed to hit Beijing/Shanghai should China hit Delhi with whatever MBRLs that are being discussed here?

We reached a very strong det against china about three years back. They better not use any nuke against India. Just about 50% of territory of China has more population than India. We are nearly homogenious in spread of Population but China is not.

While some of us looks like almost wetting their pants. This is not how you fight and kill the enemy.
GOI is calm and rightfully so. Let the Chinks guess what is our next step gonna be.
Stop this bitching moaning and crying

Who is shivering today? India or China?

Seriously bro where did that come from ?

I am a proud hindu and there is no doubt on that for anybody

Dhoti shivering if it has ulterior meaning I am not aware of it and certainly did not use in that context which you implied. I picked it up in BR forum where they also use the term lungi shivering . I don't think anybody uses in the context in which you implied .

I have never denigrated Indian traditions and our ancestors .

My post was not against you but about this so called Dhoti shivering. Maharana Pratap also wore a dhoti under his armour. Do you know that a Dhoti is better attire for Indian climatic conditions? The balls of a man which produce sperms are at a temprature 2*F lower than rest of the body. They need to be kept cool to ensure production of sperms. Dhoti and the good old dharidaar Kaccha which our forefathers wore gave that kind of cooling to their balls. That is why they produced so many children. Even at the age of 55, I sleep without an underwear but with a payjama on.
Western world has gone into negative population growth due to the cloths they wear. Langot forced the balls to retract inside the body of a man and that killed the sperm production as they were needed to adhere to Brahmachariya. What I have written here is scientifically proven. Raising balls to the inside of your body, creates temporary infertility and also lack of sex cravings. But once they hangout, everything becomes normal and sex desire goes up.

 

[Ashwin]

China has a much lesser regard to condemnation and perception. That said, I have already mentioned before, they have a bigger worry if Indian bombs or rockets start falling in Beijing than India has to worry about their rockets falling in Noida.

China is no USSR. Even the USSR didn't bomb a civilian city just to send a message.

CPC's incentives are perfectly aligned to keep the globalised market system keep going.

Internal stability -> Jobs for working population -> Big market in wealthy countries

If they are going for suicide, they would do it for core issues like Taiwan or SCS, Not for a barren land for away from home.

People are overestimating what india is to China.

 

[AbRaj]

it is incomplete knowledge.


We reached a very strong det against china about three years back. They better not use any nuke against India. Just about 50% of territory of China has more population than India. We are nearly homogenious in spread of Population but China is not.


Who is shivering today? India or China?


My post was not against you but about this so called Dhoti shivering. Maharana Pratap also wore a dhoti under his armour. Do you know that a Dhoti is better attire for Indian climatic conditions? The balls of a man which produce sperms are at a temprature 2*F lower than rest of the body. They need to be kept cool to ensure production of sperms. Dhoti and the good old dharidaar Kaccha which our forefathers wore gave that kind of cooling to their balls. That is why they produced so many children. Even at the age of 55, I sleep without an underwear but with a payjama on.
Western world has gone into negative population growth due to the cloths they wear. Langot forced the balls to retract inside the body of a man and that killed the sperm production as they were needed to adhere to Brahmachariya. What I have written here is scientifically proven. Raising balls to the inside of your body, creates temporary infertility and also lack of sex cravings. But once they hangout, everything becomes normal and sex desire goes up.

Some of us here in this forum.

PS: There is a reason GOI and IA is in silent mode and IMO its not due to cowardice as some people here are implying .
Also this is the reason Chinese are frothing through their mouth screaming WAAR, instead of actually attacking.

 

[Saaho]

Sir, please read this article and I request you to pay special attention on the part where author describes what China would need to make our airbases useless.
Rocket barrages would have nil effect on our airbases due to their integrated AD systems, hardened shelters and other important reasons are described in the article.

I saw that. They take ballistic missiles into consideration. I wonder if they have taken WeiShi rockets which are much cheaper into consideration.

 

[vstol Jockey]

Some of us here in this forum.

PS: There is a reason GOI and IA is in silent mode and IMO its not due to cowardice as some people here are implying .
Also this is the reason Chinese are frothing through their mouth screaming WAAR, instead of actually attacking.

Those who can, do it. Those who can't, make noise. Silence is not cowardice and being loud does not make you a winner.
Thota chana bajey ghana. Empty vessels make more sound.

 

[Aurora]

I saw that. They take ballistic missiles into consideration. I wonder if they have taken WeiShi rockets which are much cheaper into consideration.

I agree that they are far cheaper and hence far less effective. For instance a BM can easily damage hardened shelters but a rocket can't. It is easier to intercept too by ADs. We have seen this recently when after Solemani's death Iranian proxies regularly fired lots of Katyusa rockets on US embassy in Iraq which did almost no damage.

 

[Quicksilver]

to think that the congress regime purposely did not build border infra because this will "slow the chinese down". LOL. the amount of nibbling that was allowed because of this gross miscalculation is astounding.

I am just unable to vote congress in my lifetime at this point.

 

[Quicksilver]

something to ponder:

The then defence committe chirman (Raj Babbar Ferozabad Congress MP -2013) did not even listen to the army during the 19 km incursion of Chinese inside the Indian territory.

@BlackOpsIndia never minces words on the current dispensation - he is welcome to go back to the former one or any other he chooses.

"Led by Raj Babbar, MPs abandon top-level defence briefing to catch flights"

this was the "Defence preparedness" in 2013. I shudder at the thought that these people were at the helm for 10 years. how much have we lost because of them?



Read more at:
Led by Raj Babbar, MPs abandon top-level defence briefing to 'catch flights' | India News - Times of India

 

[screambowl]

I am also for reorganising the IA into regional set up wherein the soldiers from hills guard the hills and soldiers from plains guard the plains with a bit of cross over. This will ensure that soldiers are posted in areas which are their home states and also closer to home. This may not be the wisest Idea today but once we take out Pakistan, it may sound a very good Idea. This will also stop the flight of people from hills to plains and we will have our chinese borders better manned.

That's exactly I have been writing in my post. Give LOC and LAC to Himalayan people with little cross over from other places in India to overcome the shortcommings. And it's a game over for both China and Pakistan.

 

[BlackOpsIndia]

@BlackOpsIndia never minces words on the current dispensation - he is welcome to go back to the former one or any other he chooses.

Why should I mince my words on current, past or future dispensation? Those provoking words sometimes bring out shallowness or depth of users, I can then scroll their posts without reading or reading carefully.

I am living in present I am talking about it as things unfold, collect different opinions, events, trying to make sense of things and their impact, on my country, my family, me.

You can bind yourself to particular people, I never consider a nation of 125 crore won't produce dynamic leaders, better than previous ones. I owe nothing to current or past dispensation to defend them when they are at fault. You'll be surprised to see my exposure with BJP so please don't pass judgements, you(and others too) know nothing about me.

 

[screambowl]

Delhi can be hit from Dhamchok with a 350 KM range rocket.

This is why the action is happening near Ladakh thousand of km away from chinese settlements near SCS

edit:

Look at @screambowl , a man from right at the border. He used to whine and do conspiracy theories.

There is no conspiracy theory when I mentioned about Chinese having control of fresh water from Pangong Lake. This lake is saline only on the western side, the middle but far east is fresh water.

Flora, fauna and geography. The eastern part of the lake is fresh, with the content of total dissolved solids at 0.68 g/L, while the western part of the lake is saline, with the salinity at 11.02 g/L. The brackish water of the lake has very low micro-vegetation.

The highlight about this lake is that its eastern part inside China is fresh water, while the western part in Kashmir is salt water. Although the fresh water part is crystal clear and the water tastes sweet, there is only sparse vegetation on the bank. On the contrary, the salt water part has reared lush meadows on the ban

Pangong Lake

Pangong Lake is a famous border lake. It is called “Cuomu Angla Renbo Tso”, which means “Long-Necked Crane Lake”.

www.tibettravel.org

 

[Saaho]

There is no conspiracy theory when I mentioned about Chinese having control of fresh water from Pangong Lake. This lake is saline only on the western side, the middle but far east is fresh water.

We talked about this : The eastern part were never a part of Indian claim, even going back to Shilma treaty of 1911. It was always in Tibet. The one in LAC is saline. I don't know if eastern part is sweet or not but really it does not matter.

 

[Quicksilver]

how much was lost during the regime where J&K had separate constitution and their vested interests in reducing Budhist population?
these are irreversible damages caused. even if we have to reverse them, it will take a LOT of effort and cause a lot of hardship.

 

[Quicksilver]

We talked about this : The eastern part were never a part of Indian claim, even going back to Shilma treaty of 1911. It was always in Tibet. The one in LAC is saline. I don't know if eastern part is sweet or not but really it does not matter.

the guy has a history of changing goal posts and says the same thing again and again.

he once asked how can India go to war with the rupee depreciating so much. I showed him chinese currency has deprciated too.
then he said the currency parity between China and India is growing, thats why India cant fight china. I showed him past five years we were all same.

then he brought past 10 years to show that the currency ratio between India and China deterriorated and the gap is widening.
I pointed out that from 2010-2015 it went from 6.5 to 10.2 but from 2015- 2020 it actually improved from 10.2 to 10.0 - from his OWN DATA. and asked him if this was "widening" disparity.

then he disappeared from that topic.

 

[AbRaj]

edit:

There is no conspiracy theory when I mentioned about Chinese having control of fresh water from Pangong Lake. This lake is saline only on the western side, the middle but far east is fresh water.

Pangong Lake

Pangong Lake is a famous border lake. It is called “Cuomu Angla Renbo Tso”, which means “Long-Necked Crane Lake”.

www.tibettravel.org

bro, I m following your posts earliear than you think. in this case though I was somewhat sarcastic, I knew that you havebetter info than me.

 

[Saaho]

the guy has a history of changing goal posts and says the same thing again and again.

he once asked how can India go to war with the rupee depreciating so much. I showed him chinese currency has deprciated too.
then he said the currency parity between China and India is growing, thats why India cant fight china. I showed him past five years we were all same.

then he brought past 10 years to show that the currency ratio between India and China deterriorated and the gap is widening.
I pointed out that from 2010-2015 it went from 6.5 to 10.2 but from 2015- 2020 it actually improved from 10.2 to 10.0 - from his OWN DATA. and asked him if this was "widening" disparity.

then he disappeared from that topic.

I won't write him off totally. The guy seems like a local of the region. Never write off knowledge or believes of a local. I do find his claim that China wants to occupy Ladakh and J&K for its water weird.

 

[Sulla84]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1269922127186190336

Up the escalation ladder.. Rajya sabha tv and not a private channel

 

[screambowl]

the guy has a history of changing goal posts and says the same thing again and again.

he once asked how can India go to war with the rupee depreciating so much. I showed him chinese currency has deprciated too.
then he said the currency parity between China and India is growing, thats why India cant fight china. I showed him past five years we were all same.

then he brought past 10 years to show that the currency ratio between India and China deterriorated and the gap is widening.
I pointed out that from 2010-2015 it went from 6.5 to 10.2 but from 2015- 2020 it actually improved from 10.2 to 10.0 - from his OWN DATA. and asked him if this was "widening" disparity.

then he disappeared from that topic.

I have already replied with data how from rs 6 = 1cyn to rs 10 = 1 cyn changed.
Tell me what is there to post? No one knows what is happening at the LAC, the LAC at the North East region is calm.
Nepal suddenly brings new map to parliament, today morning they are are introducing in the parliament.
Covid19 going on
Economy is fragile
India hit by two cyclones and locust
Internally people of India are going through a lot of pressure. Kindly think about them also. It's okay , people should know how to survive in pressure, but they should also have time to breath at least.
Let the economy go up a bit then you can think about adventures.
Yesterday there was skirmish with tangos in J&K, isnt two front asymmetric skirmish already going on? Think about it.

 

[Quicksilver]

I have already replied with data how from rs 6 = 1cyn to rs 10 = 1 cyn changed.
Tell me what is there to post? No one knows what is happening at the LAC, the LAC at the North East region is calm.
Nepal suddenly brings new map to parliament, today morning they are are introducing in the parliament.
Covid19 going on
Economy is fragile
India hit by two cyclones and locust
Internally people of India are going through a lot of pressure. Kindly think about them also.
Let the economy go up a bit then you can think about adventures.
Yesterday there was skirmish with tangos in J&K, isnt two front asymmetric skirmish already going on? Think about it.

the rs6 CNY to rs 10 CNY data is called cherry picking.

this is the third time I am going to ask.
from your own data, from 2010 to 2015, INR to CNY went from 6.5 to 10.2
then from 2015 to 2010, it went from 10.2 to 10.02
does that tell you the gap is widening?

coming to the rest of the post. I can write 10 things affecting china right now:
HK protests,
Britain saying they will award 3 million HK the right to move to Britain
Covid crisis economically
Chinese forex reserves plummeted from 4 trillion to 3 trillion in the last 5 years.
After covid, every country - India, Vietnam, Malaysia, USA is trying to poach the supply chain so firmly dear to china - their engine of growth.
who are the all weather friends of china? the likes of Pakistan, North Korea

big countries will always have lot of issues - thats the nature of geography.

 

[Quicksilver]

I won't write him off totally. The guy seems like a local of the region. Never write off knowledge or believes of a local. I do find his claim that China wants to occupy Ladakh and J&K for its water weird.

knowledge from aywhere is welcome and to be respected.
opinions though, can be debated.
not even once have I used bad language or barbs. but I have used his open data to question his opinions.

his open statement was India cannot fight china because the rupee is 75 to a dollar.