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This was a crash which I just an't figure out. How can so many people who do pre flight inspection including the piot miss out on the intake covers still being in place
The Royal Navy like so many other British imperial institutions have entered a phase of terminal decline. God forbid if the offender happens to be a racial or religious minority, the inquiry committee would rather indulge in self flagellation than fixing accountability. Do share here the findings of the inquiry as & when it's made public , Paddy . @BMD
 
Except you will have the same problems next time round. You will have to work share with the partners.
Or may be not. All is not said, and don't forget Dassault has a "plan B". A Rafale plan B is a far more potent option than a EF2000 plan A.
Rafale "optimised to be average."

Dassault "striving to be obsolete."
A foreign test pilot said about Rafale : it is not the world best in any mission, but is very good in all.

Impossible to say that of EF2000. Sorry Bro, your bird is now clearly a failure, as shown by export deal.
 
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Or may be not. All is not said, and don't forget Dassault has a "plan B". A Rafale plan B is a far more potent option than a EF2000 plan A.

A foreign test pilot said about Rafale : it is not the world best in any mission, but is very good in all.

Impossible to say that of EF2000. Sorry Bro, your bird is now clearly a failure, as shown by export deal.
No, it will definitely have to work share, you think the Germans will pay in money without a share of the jobs? A Rafale Plan B for post 2035 is no plan at all. :ROFLMAO:

So, removing the sugar-coating from that phrase, he said, "the Rafale, it's not the best."

Still has more exports than the amazing Rafale and it's SPECTRA stealth. :ROFLMAO:
 
The FCAS with the Germans is a very bad idea.
I think, it will be like with the rafale, France wil do it alone. Dassault CEO said they worked for a "100% french" alternative if it fail with the germans. This is the same situation with the MGBT.
 
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The FCAS with the Germans is a very bad idea.
I think, it will be like with the rafale, France wil do it alone. Dassault CEO said they worked for a "100% french" alternative if it fail with the germans. This is the same situation with the MGBT.

It's better for France to partner with Europe for FCAS. A new class of jet is needed to complement FCAS, which the others do not necessarily need, but France will. So France will need its money for that program.

The MBT is fine, the Germans have competance in that field, and they take it a bit more seriously. Plus they have a lot of clients in Europe.
 
How much money do the French have for R&D? How much of a 6th gen can you do, with commercial off the shelf tech? The F-35 has been 72 billion R&D so far.

Western countries, including Australia, are not poor. Their spending priorities are different.

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Australia = $0.5T
France = $1.437T
Germany = $1.819T
US = $6.428T

Although France's GDP is 7 times lower, govt revenue is a little over 4 times lower. Meaning, at American levels of military spending, France can have a defence budget of $175B. They have the money for it.

China's at $4.3T. India's at $0.54T. Russia's at $0.53T.

Also, America's spending is different, it's quite wasteful economically, other countries are more efficient because they develop technologies over time. And when projects get delayed, the cost increase in the US is much more substantial than in other countries because of the number of people working on those projects and the subsequent payment of salaries of those people every year. For example, at an average of $120,000 a year, 10,000 scientists and technicians need $1.2B a year. You work 20 years in R&D without much to show for, that's $24B down the drain. And if you have ever run a business, you will know that just handing over salaries isn't the only expenditure on manpower, there are various perks offered that go into maintaining and retaining talent.
 
The MBT is fine, the Germans have competance in that field, and they take it a bit more seriously. Plus they have a lot of clients in Europe.
It seems there is a great difference about how to use a MBT between German army and French doctrine.
German want a blockaus on caterpilar when the french want a faster, more agile and lighter one.
The french were very disapointed about how they found the german without creativity about the futur of ground war. They are engulfed in cold war lessons.

Sure Leo 2 has a wide customer base.
 
I thought it was a bit strong, and deleted it, you replied in the mean time. We both know the US won't sell to the UAE till they get rid of china.
 
I thought it was a bit strong, and deleted it, you replied in the mean time. We both know the US won't sell to the UAE till they get rid of china.
Why did you sell to the Swiss, then?

Because if you think Switzerland isn't very deep in China's pockets, you should try opening your eyes a little bit. They're a lot more sinified than the Emirati.
 
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The Swiss are fully aware. Wait and see.

If the US is holding firm on a no-Huawei line for the F-35, “The UAE will have to follow suit of UK in giving up the Huawei 5G contract with China in favor of joining the F-35 club for national security purposes,” said Kuwaiti defense expert Ali Al Hashim.

The UK’s mobile providers are being banned from buying new Huawei 5G equipment after Dec. 31, and they must also remove all the Chinese firm’s 5G kit from their networks by 2027.
 
Shut up please.
Tell him about the magnificent omnirole binoculars. that will shut him up

During this time, the pilot carefully manages the flight of his aircraft in an airspace occupied by the many other coalition aircraft. " During a close air support (CAS) mission, we are surrounded by many drones and other fighters," says the pilot. “You must be extremely vigilant at all altitudes.”

On the ground, the JTAC belonging to the Syrian democratic forces requests surveillance of a given zone. "He asks me to observe and describe an area of interest," explains the navigator. Thanks to the pair of binoculars, the Damocles pod (infrared imaging designator) and the OCAD (connected decision-making tool), the crew observes the area and see a vehicle driving up from the south. It stops and positions itself. On board, three armed individuals, who are identified as enemy combatants. "Immediately, I describe the situation to the JTAC,” says the navigator, who positions a drone on the target.

A few minutes later, the firing order is given to neutralize these fighters who threaten a position of Syrian Democratic Forces. No more noise in the airplane, as the crew knows its procedures by heart. The navigator prepares his system while the pilot places the aircraft on the required flight path.
 
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