Human Error Or Murphy's Law
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For Complex Machines , it becomes more difficult to find out , what exactly happened
Lockheed Martin F-35 Lightning and F-22 'Raptor' : News & Discussion
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Human Error Or Murphy's Law
Anything is possible
For Complex Machines , it becomes more difficult to find out , what exactly happened
What's impressive is it maintained forward momentum and did not simply fly into the parked jets or the island.
Lockheed Martin should add this to their powerpoint: advanced superior game-changing fifth generation crashing capacity for the WarFighter!
US Navy has gone fully woke so if the pilot is black, gay, trans or non gender it will fly again. Pilot will likely get promoted.
If I were Indian I wouldn't be laughing especially when IAF is famous for their crashing skills. Shall we have a countdown when the first IAF french plane crashes? You know it's coming. So to those who live in glass houses....
If I were Indian I wouldn't be laughing especially when IAF is famous for their crashing skills. Shall we have a countdown when the first IAF french plane crashes? You know it's coming. So to those who live in glass houses....
He isn't an Indian. He belongs to your favourite nationality in the whole wide world - the French.
I never bothered about this thread
I didnt know you guys have so much fun , sniping at each other
It is just that the French are such an easy, little fish to catch. When you have a big fish, that all the other fish want too.
Yup @WHOHE is a teen prodigy with usual teen problems ( excessive hormones , teen angst , acne et al ) apart from being the resident expert who worships at the altar of the F-35 & thinks anybody who criticises it is blaspheming, hence goes after the French with a vengeance that Paddy couldn't , for obvious reasons .
He's also honorary president of resident trailer park fighter enthusiasts ( not aviation geeks for they're hoity toity as opposed to trailer park folks ) association who spend their entire lifetime bumming around looking out for aircrafts particularly mysterious black triangles not round objects flying high in the sky & endlessly speculate on it over endless supplies of stolen beer , pot & fried chicken.
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‘Billions Of Dollars’ On F-35 Stealth Fighter Jet Upgrade Go Up In Smoke; Pentagon Calls It ‘Immature, Deficient’
ByAshish Dangwal January 28, 2022
A $14 billion software upgrade, which is being installed on US F-35 fighter jets, is “immature, deficient and insufficiently tested,” the Pentagon’s testing office said in a report.
The assessment, which is part of the Pentagon’s annual report, said that the aircraft operators “identified deficiencies in weapons, fusion, communications and navigation, cybersecurity and targeting processes that required software modification and additional time and resources, which caused delays”, according to Bloomberg. The report has not been made public yet.
The Lockheed Martin F-35 incorporates over 8 million lines of computer code. Software required to enhance its capabilities has been plagued by issues since upgrades began in 2020. According to the report, the US Defense Department’s F-35 program office has adopted “process improvements to address software development issues”.
Laura Seal, the spokesperson for the Pentagon’s F-35 program office, said in a statement that her office “delivers software on a warfighter-relevant timeline and our warfighters decide to take the software based on their review of the benefits of incorporating this software into their fleets.” Feedback is used “to improve the way we deliver software,” she added.
The assessment supervised by new DoD testing director Nickolas Guertin made a scathing remark, saying that despite the fact that the upgrade effort was based around commercial “agile software” concepts, the program office “does not adhere to published best practices” and has “consistently failed to provide the capabilities specified in their master schedule”.
It further claimed that the program has not appropriately financed teams to “adequately test, analyze data, or do comprehensive” check-up analysis “to ensure that unintentional defects are not embedded in the software prior to delivery.”
Lockheed Martin has delivered more than 750 out of the planned 3300 jets to the United States and its allies, including South Korea, the United Kingdom, and Israel.
Technical Flaws And Upgrade Schedule
Last year, it was reported that the F-35 fighter jet is still plagued by 871 software and hardware flaws that could jeopardize readiness, missions, or maintenance.The Defense Department’s costliest weapons system “continues to carry a large number of deficiencies, many of which were identified prior to” the development and demonstration phase, which ended in April 2018 with 941 flaws, Robert Behler, the director of operational testing said at that time.
Behler stated last year that “the overall number of open deficiencies has not changed significantly since early 2018” due to “ongoing problems with initial software quality” in Block 4 and “limited lab and flight test capability, resulting in a high rate of problem discoveries” in testing and in the field.
Behler alleged the Block 4 process “is not working.” “It causes major delays in anticipated timelines and results in poor software quality with flaws.” Software upgrades intended to add new features or correct flaws often resulted in stability issues.
To stay up with current threats, the F-35 program is undergoing a “Block 4” upgrade that will cost at least $12.1 billion and is aimed at rectifying prior shortcomings and offering new capabilities through 2026. The concept calls for upgrading some of the planes deployed to the US, the UK and Japan.
In 2021, only 10 of the 871 unresolved issues mentioned by Boehler were found to be “Category 1” vulnerabilities or critical flaws that could threaten pilot or aircraft safety or compromise mission effectiveness. In 2018, 102 such issues were detected among the 941 cases cited.
However, None of the ten existing flaws, according to Lockheed, are “1A” issues that could jeopardize pilot or aircraft safety, but rather are in “Category 1B,” which the program office defines as having “a critical impact on mission readiness,” training, or maintenance.”
Among other findings, the testing office’s latest report said that despite the fact that some cybersecurity issues have been rectified, testing last year revealed lingering vulnerabilities. The report also noted that the spare components are not being available when needed.
Impossible to order specific enhancement from uncle Sam....If only reality agreed with you deceptive fantasy. Cost of Indian flyaway, to be good enough. $150 million.
-Unit cost (36 F3+* RafalesX$105m*) $3.8b
-IAF specific enhancements ** ( including improved hot an high performance, integration of Israeli systems and weapons (intergradation) $2b divide by 36 and add the $105, you get $150 big ones.
You forget the multi year support with high disponibility. So it's not ONLY a fly away price.
Said 10.000 times.....
PS : 2nd batch of Qatar : 12 birds for 1.1 billion. Do this simple math simple enough for you?
It's good to see the click bait articles again. So Block 4, done in stages to 2026, isn't finished and fully tested yet. Who knew?
Did India pay $150m flyaway. Are the Indians lying. yes or no?
It was planned in the standard 2, then 3, then 3F, then 4, then.....
In the indian case it's not a flyaway price, that's all. Just remove the 50% offsets
Too difficult to understand?
Good old pic-oil using eurasiatimes. Signs of desperation me thinks.
How on earth can someone pay $150 million for a 4th gen fighter that is less capable than F-18E and F-16V?
Oh yeah I forgot... Dassault bribed Indian officials into selecting the french plane.
Eurasian times is like times.uk, ****, Republic TV, Times Now, YouTubers looking to make great money. I could list many more western world similar comedy news channels/websites but afraid we don't have the option to watch limited available foreign news channels as they get lost in crowded Indian news drama. Another thing our news cables are mostly limited to CNN, DW, BBC etc.
Such news sites belong in funny section.
LMAO, what is this?
Imagine a future where underwater drones tail an aircraft carrier to disrupt the flight controls of a landing aircraft and eventually crash it.
Imagine a future where underwater drones tail an aircraft carrier to disrupt the flight controls of a landing aircraft and eventually crash it.
I don't believe this. Isn't the 5th Gen F-35 the apex predator which comes equipped with all manner of EA , ECM , ECCM , RAM coating , E Virus like Stuxnet etc equipped with anti Acoustic counter measures ?
Quick , what's the inside dope on this ? What do your pals M/s Gen Bogdan & Hostage have to say on this ? @WHOHE
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The F-35 is a flying supercomputer with perfect situational awareness. It saw its reflection on the sea surface, shrieked in horror at how ugly it was (that's the weird noise), and logically decided to commit suicide. The tragic tale of a noble soul trapped in a monstrous body. 