The importance of stealth has been greatly overemphasised by the US in the media.
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That must be why everyone is building or going to build a stealth plane, including France. It;s just a shame that neither of us will be alive, to see if France succeeds in 2040-50
Tell IAF to take down US Aegis system, they will execute it successfully. So IAF taking diwn s300 is not matter of surpriseSame Israeli F-35's that has been taking out targets over Syria penetrating S300's and Russian operated S400's
Russian S-300s, S-400s Fail to Detect Israeli F-35s Flying Over Syria: Reports
Russia’s advanced air defense systems, the S-300s and S-400s, were ineffectual in detecting Israeli F-35 stealth fighters flying over Syrian capital Damascus, Israeli media reported. Israeli media published the flight route of its planes, reportedly F-35 Adir jets, that showed the jets entering...www.defenseworld.net
I know it must suck to be and Indian military enthusiast that sees itself as a military power when the truth is India is powerless in the air force realm or better said inferior to its neighbor to the north that flies over a 100 stealth fighters and designing another version whose schematics is similar to the F-35.
I'd be pissed too if I were Indian and US hasn't offered the F-35 knowing crappy Flankers no matter how much foreign tech is integrated isn't going to cut it in a modern war under high-tech conditions. I'd also be pissed off too as Indian that the most advanced fighter we got is a French 4th gen fighter that still lacks many of the advanced avionics US 4th gen fighters have had for years... and only have 36 of them meaning likely only 15 or less will be available for war. Yeah I'd also be pissing on the US made F-35 to make myself feel better knowing that first world countries and friends of US are allowed to buy the most advanced fighter to ever take the skies while we fly Russian crap and 36 French fighters.
In my Indian mind I'd start lying to myself telling myself Rafale didn't really lose in Switzerland it was a conspiracy to please the US the same for Finland...
No stealth without range is useless. ANd range has to be great in the pacific, very great.
The other solution is to put F-35 directly in taïwanese airports ... 200 km from Chinese coast.
Have you seen how many planes were directly destroyed on the ground just for being to close from the front ?
Stingray are the solution for F-35C and are a good solution in the pacific to put aircrafts carriers far from the front. But there are no place in Taïwan for any other f-35 than C.
Tankers other than Stinray are dead meat.
The sad thing is, that you don't see how illogical you are. What a stupid thing to say.
The size of the NGAD should be sufficient. 30MHz and up is below 10m wavelength.
Pretty much. Against China, the US needs the NGAD, period. It's unfortunate that the USAF chose the YF-22 over the YF-23, the latter had almost twice the range of the YF-22 and would have at least been half a generation ahead of the J-20.
Replacing the radar, DAS and upgrading the EW suite with new antennas is very good news. These were all pretty big holes in capabilities. Very necessary capability enhancements, I always thought they will end up doing this only after 2030.
It can be very good news as soon as an AETP is choosen and put in the coming deliveries. All these new stuffs are much more energy consuming than the laters. ANd from this point of view are worst.
TR3 had to come after the engine ... It's a bad move.
The sad thing is that you don't even read the report coming from your analysts. Range is the very bad point of the f-35 (and most of the other fighters) in the pacific since they totally rely on tankers who are absolutly not stealth for the most part of them.
Take GUAM for example 2700 km from Taïwan or Corea 1200 km or Japan 1000 km. Since all of these trips is along the Chinese coast, that's in fact twice the range that every fighters has to do to go from Japan or Corea to Taïwan. More or less 4000 km. Hom many tankers do you need. How many of them are so easy to detect / destroy on airports ?
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Chinese are playing at home. They can rely on a lot of bases along the coast from Jiangsu to Guandong region. They can play in the air a much bigger time without any tankers.
How can you play your F-35 A or B in such a context ? they are threaten as soon as they totally rely on tankers.
How can you play your F-35 A or B in such a context ? they are threaten as soon as they totally rely on tankers.
Size as all to do with size for a wave lengh. The lower the band is the bigger you may be in stealth.
It is less and less a magic asset. Low band radars and multistatism will be spread around the world, so stealth is less usefull than during Desert Storm.
TR3 is part of the normal upgrade for B4. The new radar, DAS and new EW antennas were not part of B4, definitely not the new engine either, the F-35 was supposed to continue to use the old engine. It goes to show how screwed up the program is. It's gone the same way as the LCA.
bon plan, Australia had JORN during desert storm. We can be a harbour master and air controller for our northern neighbours. It really is that good. There were other other the horizon radars operating too. Tell me about TV antennas now. I like that story.
Whatever the scenario, A stealth aircraft has the advantage over a 4.5 gen in the same situation.
I question your ability to tie your own shoe laces. I think I'll pass on your mission planning skills.
Whatever the scenario, A stealth aircraft has the advantage over a 4.5 gen in the same situation.
You mean the one you spammed? Where the guy didn't know the radius range of the F-35 and made many errors in his xmass filler, while the other jurnos were on their xmas break.
I question your ability to tie your own shoe laces. I think I'll pass on your mission planning skills.
What's more interesting is the Chinese can comfortably reach American bases in Japan with the J-20, but the Americans can't even reach Chinese bases along the coastline never mind the depth areas.
They are making stealth drop tanks for the F-22.
Is that the only words you can reply on the very bad strategic trip US are on Taïwan ?
4000 km is the trip F-35 have to do from Japan or Korea to Taïwan and come back if the fighters have to avoid to be to close from the chinese coast.
2000 km is the trip if you accept to go along the chinese coast and take the risk af being detected even with a simple network of optronics. In that only case F-35 is at its extreme limit of fuel with absolutly no margin.
Projecting power with the F-35 (part 1): How far can it go? | The Strategist
One of the ironies of the current debate about how Australia should adjust its military strategy in light of the changing great-power balance in the Indo-Pacific is that many of the participants—regardless of their views ...
LCA programme has come as a boon to Indian Aviation industry. It's going to be our base from where the future of IAF takes off.
F-35 on the contrary is just trying to achieve too much in one package and falling miles short
NGAD is their answer to fight the Chinese in the pacific. Raptor was always designed to face the Russians from Europe.
Also stealth IRST pod. And the Americans have the audacity to criticise the Russians for integrated IRST in Su-57.They are making stealth drop tanks for the F-22.
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Is that the only words you can reply on the very bad strategic trip US are on Taïwan ?
4000 km is the trip F-35 have to do from Japan or Korea to Taïwan and come back if the fighters have to avoid to be to close from the chinese coast.
2000 km is the trip if you accept to go along the chinese coast and take the risk af being detected even with a simple network of optronics. In that only case F-35 is at its extreme limit of fuel with absolutly no margin.
Can you Describ how you deal with that ?Projecting power with the F-35 (part 1): How far can it go? | The Strategist
One of the ironies of the current debate about how Australia should adjust its military strategy in light of the changing great-power balance in the Indo-Pacific is that many of the participants—regardless of their views ...www.aspistrategist.org.au
well tell me about your plan for France protecting its interests from china if it kicks off. Going by past conflicts, it will be interesting. Whatever you can dream up about the F-35, the rafale is in a worse position.
As to the story, for a start the A2G radius of the F-35 unrefueled is currently 1240km. That's without drop tanks or the new engine. You can add another 500+km to that. Why would we launch an attack from Australia, when we share bases in the northern islands. How far are the Philippine bases? We would work in a coalition.