Lockheed Martin F-35 Lightning and F-22 'Raptor' : News & Discussion

LOL..you found another doom and gloom clickbait..well done 🤣
How many countries have said they will order or will order more since the TR3 holdup? There are at least 4 and probably more. They have sold more than 1,000 so far. If this is a failure, what is a success?
 
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LOL..you found another doom and gloom clickbait..well done 🤣
How many countries have said they will order or will order more since the TR3 holdup? There are at least 4 and probably more. They have sold more than 1,000 so far. If this is a failure, what is a success?
A success? It is a plane that keeps the promises of its program and is not sold by crooks.
 
Reality must be a terrible thing for you. Your clickbait rubbish, that you wrap yourself in. Feels so much better.
They knew there were holdups and issues with TR3 and block 4. Yet during this time, countries decided to buy the F-35, both new and old customers.
 
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Reality must be a terrible thing for you. Your clickbait rubbish, that you wrap yourself in. Feels so much better.
They knew there were holdups and issues with TR3 and block 4. Yet during this time, countries decided to buy the F-35, both new and old customers.
I don't mind countries buying crappy planes as long as they don't pay for them with my taxes, the only thing that makes me sad is that it considerably weakens Europe, but France's strength should be enough to get us through the bad times before Europe gets its act together.
 
Who knew? that you would say that Dassault will save the day. 🤣
Remind me again. Other than France, how many fighters has Dassault sold to Europe in the last 40 years?
Dassault's production of fighter jets for Europe is certainly far greater than the Australian aeronautics industry's production for Australia. :ROFLMAO:
 
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More on the F-35A's extreme range..

Thanks to doge @ f16dotnet for article

VERMONT ANG'S 158TH FW: CONVERTING TO THE F-35A
By Ted Carlson 28th August 2023
Two senior Vermont Air National Guard officers tell Ted Carlson of Fotodynamics.com about their unit’s conversion and the busy operational schedule since receiving the first F-35A in 2019.
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Gummy’s Thoughts
The 158th Operation Group Commander is Col Michael ‘Gummy’ Blair, who has over 3,700 total flight hours including over 2,200 in the F-15E, 900 F-16C hours, and 380 F-35A hours. He is an Air Force Academy graduate, class of 2000, and in 2008 he graduated from Fighter Weapons School. He flew F-15E Strike Eagles from RAF Lakenheath in the UK, Mountain Home AFB, Idaho, Seymour Johnson AFB, North Carolina, and later joined Vermont’s Green Mountain Boys in 2012.
Col Blair explained to me in detail how and why the unit is leading with way with the F-35A, stretching the maintenance regime and streamlining systems, as well as supporting other units with the aircraft:
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“We did have to expand our high-altitude airspace envelopes to allow for the F-35 speed, endurance, the longer reaching sensors and flight profiles. Our airspace now ranks as some of the best in the country, and we have multiple B-2s and F-22s come up to work here, just for our airspace alone! Our reputation, being The Green Mountain Boys, coupled with our airspace areas, are probably some of the primary reasons why we were the first to get the F-35 in the Guard.

“Compared to the Viper, the F-35A brings LO and state-of-the-art sensor packages to the arena. Our automated data diffusion and data dispersion systems are also a major change, more so than the F-22 even. Then add in the awesome endurance and we have demonstrated being able to quickly get a combat capability to Europe without having to go through an Air Operations Squadron (AOS) movement, which requires time-intensive planning and significant personnel support. This is due to the F-35A legs, which has a greater endurance than a Strike Eagle with three bags of fuel.

So 900nm combat radius is looking like its true radius and not the 760+nm. And unlike Rafale the F-35 will be able to actually do 900nm because it can fly high and not worry about getting detected.
 
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Pentagon can't account for 63% of nearly $4 trillion in assets

DOD regularly buys parts and equipment it doesn’t need because it can’t keep track of the parts and equipment it already owns

The Pentagon failed its sixth audit in a row last month.

And “failed” is putting it generously. The department actually received a “disclaimer of opinion.” According to the Government Accountability Office, that means “auditors were unable to obtain sufficient, appropriate evidence to provide a basis for an audit opinion.” So the outcome is more like an “incomplete” than an abject failure.

But semantics aside, one major reason the Pentagon keeps failing audits is because it can’t keep track of its property. Last year, the Pentagon couldn’t properly account for a whopping 61% of its $3.5 trillion in assets. That figure increased this year, with the department insufficiently documenting 63% of its now $3.8 trillion in assets. Military contractors possess many of these assets, but to an extent unbeknownst to the Pentagon.

The GAO has flagged this issue for the department since at least 1981. Yet the latest audit states that the Pentagon’s target to correct insufficient accounting department-wide is fiscal year 2031. In the meantime, contractors are producing weapon systems and spare parts that they may already possess — an incredible waste of taxpayer dollars.

The F-35 program is a great example. The Pentagon technically owns the global pool of spare parts for all variations of the F-35, but the program’s contractors — mainly Lockheed Martin and Pratt & Whitney — manage those parts. According to the GAO, the Pentagon relies on contractors to record the “cost, total quantity, and locations of [F-35] spare parts in the global spares pool.” The department has estimated that the value of F-35 parts in the possession of contractors is over $220 billion, but the GAO reports that this is “likely significantly understated.”

The Pentagon doesn’t know what or how much government property contractors have because it doesn’t have access to contractor records. Lockheed Martin has even threatened to charge the Pentagon for reports on what and how many F-35 parts the government owns, but Lockheed possesses. A few years ago, the corporation estimated that it would take 450,000 labor hours to produce these reports — making them too expensive for even the Pentagon, which appears to have trusted this estimate. Congress authorized procurement funding for 90 F-35s that year, 11 more than the Pentagon requested.

Last year, the Department of Defense Office of the Inspector General noted that the Pentagon’s inability to keep track of its property could lead it to “understate its property held by contractors and potentially buy more than it needs.” In September, Inspector General Robert Storch reported that in 2021, the Army’s spare parts forecasting was only 20% accurate on average. As a result, the Army overstated how many spare parts it needed by $202 million, in addition to spending another $148 million on spare parts it didn’t anticipate needing at all. The other military services didn’t do any better, overshooting their spare parts needs by $767 million and spending $355 million on parts they didn’t know they needed. All in all, the military overshot its spare parts needs by nearly $1 billion. It spent over half a billion on spare parts it didn’t forecast.

The Pentagon could save hundreds of millions of dollars, if not more, by properly accounting for its assets. In a rare win for taxpayers, the department realized some of these savings in 2019, when the Department of Defense Inspector General flagged errors in the Navy’s property and inventory records. In an effort to resolve those errors, the Navy located a warehouse that was mysteriously absent from its property records. Inside the warehouse, the Navy found $126 million worth of spare parts for P-8 Poseidon, the P-3 Orion, and the F-14 Tomcat — the latter of which the Navy retired in 2006 (over a decade previous). Thankfully, the other parts were still useful and the Navy filled over $20 million in spare parts orders without having to procure new ones. These savings are too scarce.

Last year, Congress allocated at least $39.5 billion to procure aircrafts, their spare parts, and other equipment, despite not knowing what the government already owned. But insufficient tracking of inventory property doesn’t just increase the risk of overbuying spare parts, it also inhibits the Pentagon from maintaining government property in the possession of contractors. In May, the GAO revealed that in the past five years, Lockheed Martin has lost, damaged, or destroyed over a million spare parts for the F-35 worth over $85 million. The government had visibility into less than 2% of those losses, since it relies on Lockheed to voluntarily report not only what and how much government property it possesses, but also the condition of that property.

The Pentagon clearly has a lot of work to do to properly track its property and produce auditable financial statements. It has no idea what equipment it already owns, so it can’t maintain its property or anticipate what more it needs. The department is spending taxpayer money recklessly. But taxpayers cannot wait until 2031 for the Pentagon to correct its decades-old inventory problem.
 
Dassault's production of fighter jets for Europe is certainly far greater than the Australian aeronautics industry's production for Australia. :ROFLMAO:
That is true. However, quality of our air forces are different. Australia is far superior in its platforms.
F-35
Super hornet
Growler
MC-55A
MQ-28
E-7A
P-8A
Better transport aircraft too. C-17 for example
 
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That is true. However, quality of our air forces are different. Australia is far superior in its platforms.
F-35
Super hornet
Growler
MC-55A
MQ-28
E-7A
P-8A
Better transport aircraft too. C-17 for example
All American aircraft, and it's clear that the threat is still pretty far away, otherwise you'd be paying a bit more attention to the quality of your fighters.
 
Reality must be a terrible thing for you. Your clickbait rubbish, that you wrap yourself in. Feels so much better.
They knew there were holdups and issues with TR3 and block 4. Yet during this time, countries decided to buy the F-35, both new and old customers.
They don't purchase fighters, but a part of the US umbrella.
Like herciv, you should have just swallowed hard and accepted that Aussie air platforms are better. Instead of making a fool of yourself.
I hope Aussie air platforms the same bright future than Aussie nuclear subs !
 
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