Man Portable Anti-Tank Guided Missile (MPATGM) Developments : Updates & Discussions

Austerlitz said:
We went and bought 25,000 konkurs m nonetheless.:cautious:15,000 m version from 2008,then 10,000 m1 version in 2012.Just bought a new batch this february of upgraded m1 models unspecified numbers so army must be happy.
Its good enough for *censored* tanks and the bulk of chinese type 96g and older models.Its cheap and reliable,i guess thats why army went for it and also its vehicle installation ability.The newer Metis has slightly more penetration but half the range.Kornet weight as you said is massivedespite its awesome penetration and range.A limited number of spike should be procured for the china border.
Good to hear about the MMP.
The BMP-2 upgrade includes missile upgrade to kornet,which will help the independent armoured brigades on LAC.We also bought 3000 kornets,but where these are no one knows.Its said these are deployed with specialized tank buster battalions held in reserve,or in recon units.
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2nd gen ATGMs are very capable against 100% of Pak tanks and pretty much all of Chinese tanks. Naturally, they can be used against APCs, IFVs and other vehicles also. And the Kornet comfortably outranges all tanks and most other ATGMs.

We are still continuing to buy Kornet, Konkurs and MILAN. We recently signed a production deal for Konkurs, which BDL will build, followed by another soon-to-be-signed MILAN production contract for 5000 missiles.

The T-90 is also getting the Invar/Refleks missile, an upgrade over the older Svir. Plus DRDO is also developing a tube-fired ATGM for T-90 and Arjun called CLGM.

Based on the CLGM, infantry will be getting a new missile called SAMHO. It is capable of attacking tanks and helicopters.

As for BMP-2, 900+ of them are being upgraded and will carry the Kornet. So 10,000 missiles in the first order followed by a few thousand every year. This is separate from the man portable version. IA will also be introducing NAMICA with Nag (Prospina) pretty soon.

Among air launched systems, there will be Hellfire, HELINA, SANT, all fired from UCAVs and helicopters. Brimstone is being considered for some fixed wing aircraft. We may see induction of Spike or Pars 3 for Rudra, but the status is not clear. The delay has ensured import is not necessary, but import can be done as a stopgap measure until HELINA and SANT become available.
 
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Finally a better view of the launcher. The missile looks lovely.:love:

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Ashwin said:
Now i want MANPADs ! :cry:
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Me too !
What is this though ? From VEM Tech
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Also :
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BDL displayed this model in the past :
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Rather good looking for an model. Doesn't look like a lot has changed. Still can't believe the number of fins on the mid-section. I count 8 fins on the mid body, 4 on the rear.
 
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No more imports, army kick starts process to order anti-tank guided missiles from Indian industry

By Manu Pubby
Last Updated: Feb 11, 2020, 10.24 AM IST

The army has promised the industry an assured order of 101 launchers and 2330 missiles if the trials are successful but the potential orders in the coming decade could be ten times this number. For example, just last year the army cleared the purchase of 5,000 of the older generation Milan 2T missiles to replenish stocks.
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A 10 Assam Infantry Battalion soldier checking out the Anti-Tank Missile Launcher.(Representative image)

NEW DELHI: Seeking to cut down the import bill, the army has kicked started a process to order new anti-tank guided missiles (ATGM) from the Indian industry, preferring the domestic route for over 2,000 missiles, a number that could grow exponentially given its requirements.

The third generation ATGM project, which will replace thousands of Milan and Konours missiles that are currently in service, is being looked at keenly by the private sector, with some companies in advanced stages of prototype development.

The army has asked Indian companies – both private and public sector players like Bharat Dynamics Limited – to submit their `expression of interest’ in the program, which will be followed by the tendering process, trials and evaluations and commercial negotiations.

Spelling out its requirements, the army has said that the present anti tank capabilities have been in service for more than three decades and there is a need to catch up with other armed forces across the world that have third generation missiles.

“These systems have better accuracy, enhanced lethality, a higher kill probability, day and night operation capability and ensure better survivability for the operating crew,” an army document on the requirement says, inviting Indian vendors to develop a prototype to offer for testing.

While there are a handful of Indian companies that claim to have the technology, the army is open to them having a foreign collaborator as long as there is a minimum of 40% indigenous content (IC) as the contract will be processed under the Indigenous Designed and Manufactured (IDDM) category.

The army has promised the industry an assured order of 101 launchers and 2330 missiles if the trials are successful but the potential orders in the coming decade could be ten times this number. For example, just last year the army cleared the purchase of 5,000 of the older generation Milan 2T missiles to replenish stocks.

To meet immediate needs, the army has placed an emergency order for third generation missiles on Israel’s Rafael. The order is for 210 missiles and a dozen launchers and is being processed on the fast track basis.

Indian companies like the Kalyani Group and VEM Technologies have already initiated work on the systems, with others like Solar Industries also in the reckoning. Not to be left behind, the state owned BDL, which has manufactured the Milan series of missiles in India, too is ready with an offering. BDL launched its ‘Amogha III’ ATGM at the just concluded DefExpo in Lucknow.

No more imports, army kick starts process to order anti-tank guided missiles from Indian industry
 

Is Indian anti tank missile more powerful than Israel’s Spike?​

The test shot was carried out on October 23 at the test site of the Pokhran field field, in the western state of Rajasthan. The missile destroyed the target with extremely high accuracy in both desert terrain and rugged frontier hills.

“This is the final test and the NAG program will begin to be deployed to all units in the military,” the Indian Defense Ministry said in a statement.

NAG is a product of the Defence Research and Development Organisation Agency of India (DRDO). The missile equipped with an advanced passive navigation system with the ability to precisely destroy the target. It is designed to destroy modern tanks and heavy armored targets. It also has night strike capabilities.
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The missile can be launched from a ground-based launch pad or an airbase. The ground version can now be mounted on NAMICA (BMP-2 platform) using NAG missiles. The platform can fire six missiles with a gap of 20 seconds.

The NAG was developed under the Indian Integrated Guided Missile Development Program (IGMDP) program developed by the Ministry of Defense, involving four other types of missiles, including Agni, Akash, Trishul, and Prithvi.

The first test of the NAG was carried out in October 1990, but it was not until 2002 that there were initial successes. Testing of anti-tank NAG missiles against stationary and mobile targets took place from 2007 to 2016.

During the test in January 2016, a NAG missile successfully destroyed a thermal weapons system (TTS) at a range of 4 km at the Pokhran range. This anti-tank missile has undergone the last of the practical tests in different weather conditions this year.

According to DRDO, NAG is a line of anti-armored weapon guided missiles built of lightweight and highly durable composite materials. It has a high combat ability and can evade the enemy’s defenses.

The missile is installed with 4 penguins, spread and length 1.85, diameter 0.20m, wingspan of 0.4m and weighs 43kg. The missile is fitted with a targeting guidance system, while the middle body contains many compact sensors and warheads.

Is Indian anti tank missile more powerful than Israel’s Spike? - Defence News India
 
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Is Indian anti tank missile more powerful than Israel’s Spike?​

The test shot was carried out on October 23 at the test site of the Pokhran field field, in the western state of Rajasthan. The missile destroyed the target with extremely high accuracy in both desert terrain and rugged frontier hills.

“This is the final test and the NAG program will begin to be deployed to all units in the military,” the Indian Defense Ministry said in a statement.

NAG is a product of the Defence Research and Development Organisation Agency of India (DRDO). The missile equipped with an advanced passive navigation system with the ability to precisely destroy the target. It is designed to destroy modern tanks and heavy armored targets. It also has night strike capabilities.
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The missile can be launched from a ground-based launch pad or an airbase. The ground version can now be mounted on NAMICA (BMP-2 platform) using NAG missiles. The platform can fire six missiles with a gap of 20 seconds.

The NAG was developed under the Indian Integrated Guided Missile Development Program (IGMDP) program developed by the Ministry of Defense, involving four other types of missiles, including Agni, Akash, Trishul, and Prithvi.

The first test of the NAG was carried out in October 1990, but it was not until 2002 that there were initial successes. Testing of anti-tank NAG missiles against stationary and mobile targets took place from 2007 to 2016.

During the test in January 2016, a NAG missile successfully destroyed a thermal weapons system (TTS) at a range of 4 km at the Pokhran range. This anti-tank missile has undergone the last of the practical tests in different weather conditions this year.

According to DRDO, NAG is a line of anti-armored weapon guided missiles built of lightweight and highly durable composite materials. It has a high combat ability and can evade the enemy’s defenses.

The missile is installed with 4 penguins, spread and length 1.85, diameter 0.20m, wingspan of 0.4m and weighs 43kg. The missile is fitted with a targeting guidance system, while the middle body contains many compact sensors and warheads.

Is Indian anti tank missile more powerful than Israel’s Spike? - Defence News India
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Only Spike ER is comparable to Nag. All smaller versions are comparable to MPATGAM.

Spike failed in extreme hot conditions in indian desert. New Nag sensor is especially modified to work in those conditions. Thus Nag is 'better' for India.
 
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