To Dominate eonomically : Yes.
MIlitarily : Maybe, Who Knows?
Let's See: If china takes Taiwan with ease then it's time to get serious( about Global ambition of china).
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MIlitarily : Maybe, Who Knows?
Let's See: If china takes Taiwan with ease then it's time to get serious( about Global ambition of china).
My scenario was specifically for a WW3 type situation. Attacking the EU is plainly to take advantage of the weakest link in the NATO alliance. It's 'cause I don't think the Chinese can take on the US directly.
Taiwan will fall, if not the first time, then the second. It will require China to take on the USN in the high seas.
With the US pushed back and the EU invaded, there's nothing stopping the Chinese from taking SE Asia and the ME. Countries are happily building China-specific railroad infrastructure.
Seeing the russian troups in Ukraine it's not so impressive.
China army is made on the russian model : very centralized, without delegation for troups on the field. This is a big and decisiv difference with west armies
180km of sea to cross... And we are not during ww2 where it is possible to hide.
It would be a disaster.
Russia in Ukraine isn't a very good metric. It's a badly run war. We will see what they will do once an offensive begins. If the Russians meet their objectives in a week or two via their actual offensive doctrine or even a part of it, then that would be their real capabilities.
China will learn. If they fail against India or Taiwan, the experience will make them better in the future. Financially no one is their match, so time is on their side for at least another 40 years.
If a Taiwan crisis in 5-10 years results in a WW, then India can only provide manpower, lots of recruits with basic training for specialised training with Western equipment afterwards in the US and EU. If no WW happens, then the US can take care of things, no issues.
Do you see the possibility of a new russian offensive soon? I see nothing. They are on retreat nearly everywhere.
Yup, remains to be seen! But IIRC, we are going to install more long range radars(low band UHF/VHF!!??) all across the LAC which I believe is specifically designed to thwart Chinese VLO threat. Let's see.
Ukraine has done awesome, but outside of Kharkiv, it's been bloody and attrition.
Meanwhile USA isn't sending Abrams, Bradleys so Ukraine is forced to use Humvees.
I think 80k out of 300k mobskis were sent to plug the lines so at good portion is actually receiving training. We'll see how the spring looks. This is mainly an artillery drone war, so the key question on both sides is ammunition stockpiles.
I remember that comic book. It was silly then and it is silly now.
The PLA has what, two million people in it? Plus one half million in reserve? How much of that could they afford to send? If you say "all of it", then Taiwan would finally be able to reunify China while the PLA is away. And you think they'd have the logistic capability to go all the way from China to Europe through Russian trains?
Need I remind that the EU is mostly in NATO, and that both EU and NATO have a collective defense mechanism, stating basically that an attack against one is an attack against all. So if you attack one EU country, you attack all EU+NATO countries. Need I remind also that there are three nuclear powers with second strike capabilities in that lot?
Just for fun: Ukraine is 45 million people, Russia failed to invade it with 200 thousand troops. The EU is 450 million people, attempting to invade it with 2 million troops would therefore also fail. Besides, EU+NAO combined is one billion people.
The Russians have mobilised. They now have the strength to go on the offensive.
People are estimating an early winter offensive. They won't give Ukraine the time to rearm themselves over the next 2-3 months, especially when the Russians have the ammo that the Ukranians don't.
I've never read that. The only comics I have read as a kid are most of the Tintin works and some of Asterix and Obelix. Pretty much nothing else.
Seems kinda interesting concept though. But it defintiely is silly 'cause it probably assumes India has already been defeated.
6 Strike Corps is 300-400,000 troops, the tip of the spear. As part of the offensive arm, they don't need more. The Russians also have 2+1. What comes behind to hold territories will be the Russian forces of a few million if necessary. Compared to that, NATO does not have enough forces in Europe. There are a handful of armoured brigades, like 3 from the US, but that's about it. The Polish were the first to move in terms of militarisation of ground forces, the French and Germans should follow. But this will take a decade or more to build.
The size of the population is irrelevant, it's all about the length of the frontline. 2 SCs for the Baltics, 3 SCs for Poland, 1 each for Romania and Hungary. Once these countries fall, then there's 4-5 for Czechia and Germany. And so on. With 9-10 SCs, most of Europe can be attacked. Numbers beyond that for the offensive would be reserves.
Of course, I'm referring to what they have today compared to what they could have if they actually planned to invade via Russia, or what Europe could have by then.
Russia didn't invade with 200,000, they invaded with 80-90000, the ground forces they have in Ukraine. So the Russians are on the offensive with at least a 1:5 disadvantage, if not more. And to make matters worse for them, the offensive is actually being conducted by PMC and militia. This is not how they conduct deep battle. As I said before, the current war does not showcase Russia's true capabilities. If they screw up the war as a whole, only then will it be a different story. I believe it will be one-sided if the Russians actually took things seriously. Normally, it shouldn't have taken them more than a week or two to take all of Ukraine. What they are doing instead is the exact opposite of what they are trained for.
Nukes can't stop armies, or the Cold War wouldn't have seen such large armies in the first place. Nukes make war itself pointless to wage 'cause it kills civilians en masse. NATO will have to physically stop the 2 armies.
At this time, the Chinese already have the ability to take over all of SE Asia militarily. The only thing stopping them is their weak navy and of course nukes.
If that army depends on a very very very long rail line for its logistic support, it can be stopped by nukes very easily.
Your Chinese invasion army would not benefit from their IADS, since they'd be so far from home. So they'd discover the joys of getting pounded into dust by the largest concentration of airpower in the world.
A rail line is the last thing a nuke can stop. It's literally a 1.5m wide line.
In this hypothetical scenario where Russia and China have become bosom allies, we should also consider that Russian and Chinese systems will be able to talk to each other no different from how NATO is integrated. We can assume it's far easier for 2 countries to do it than it is for 30. So let's assume a Sino-Russia integrated IADS. Without having achieved a minimum amount of integration, they will obviously not operate jointly.
A more realistic assessment would put us 5-10 years in the future, buying enough time for all parties to prepare. Considering this, the point of my post was if there's a WW, then India will participate on the West's side, and we will be bringing in troops to Europe thereby fulfilling Nostradamus's so-called prophecy. So this discussion is all for fun.
Worst case, it could become real. The problem is the language from Russia has become really hostile, like Putin snubbing Biden over Ukraine and Lavrov talking about it no longer being "business as usual" with the West. And with China switching over to a planned economy, they will have to cement its foundation with blood, like they did with the Korean War.
How many time to train a noob to be a soldier, and not a guy going to the meat grinder?
How is the moral of these guys? More and more russians are asking to stop the war, so are their sons.
Indeed, but this was among their best trained forces. Specialy paratroopers, nearly all dead near Kiev.
The mobilised troops are reservists.
Putin's approval rating is still very high as per a Levada Center poll. Nov's rating was 79%. It may not be accurate, but it's still well above 50%. Levada is said to be a pro-West NGO and is considered one of the most reliable ones in Russia for public opinion.
The information about stopping the war is just Western propaganda. The Russians understand what's at stake for them here.
Their army is much bigger than 90000.
Dubious reporting without source but saw this, thought we rejected it before?
-#India & #Sweden offered to join 6th-Gen fighter program Tempest -Present partners #UK #Italy #Japan Features: -Manned unmanned supersonic ops -Machine learning, AI, Swarm attack drones -Hypersonic missiles & DEW -Defensive aid system -Virtual cockpit Pic: Defence IQ
-#India & #Sweden offered to join 6th-Gen fighter program Tempest -Present partners #UK #Italy #Japan Features: -Manned unmanned supersonic ops -Machine learning, AI, Swarm attack drones -Hypersonic missiles & DEW -Defensive aid system -Virtual cockpit Pic: Defence IQ
