LOL they do need to wake up, they are working with Reliance,, actually the wrong one
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So Dassault managed a situation where They should have lost, in a situation where they sold 36 Rafale and they have chances to sell over 200 in all. Finally I admire their commercial ability.
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Produce in India
We are developing an aeronautical industrial sector in India to manufacture at the best cost, with the quality requirements expected by our civil and military customers, our Falcons 2000 as well as Rafale subassemblies and payload (pylons, pendular tanks).
Dedicated factory.
An aeronautical park, the Dhirubhai Ambani Aerospace park, located on the international airport of nagpur, will now host, on a site of 25 hectares, Dassault Reliance Aerospace Limited (DRAL) but also all our partners, including French SMEs which come to accompany the development of this industrial sector.
The new plant will start by assembling the Falcon 2000. The primary parts, components of these assemblies, will be subcontracted to Indian industry.
Stages of the project
Manufacturing transfers are organized in four stages.
The initial stage involves the assembly of the T1 section of the Falcon 2000 and its sub-assemblies, as well as sub-assemblies of the Rafale's moving parts, such as engine housings and control surfaces.
An initial Indian team of four production managers was trained in our methods in Biarritz for six months. A dozen companions have also received intensive training in assembly processes, provided in France by CODIFOR.
In the second quarter of 2019, a much larger building will allow the assembly of the T1 and T2 sections, then the splicing of the T12.
In the third quarter, production of the Rafale control surfaces will start in Nagpur.
The next stage is scheduled for the end of 2019 with the assembly of the horizontal plane, an additional section of the Falcon 2000 and the windscreens and skylights of the Rafale.
At the end of 2020, the third stage will begin. It will cover the junction of the fuselage sections, the layout (mattress assembly, cabin sealing, fluid and electrical circuit assembly) and the general assembly, the runway and the take off from Nagpur.
Finally, the last stage will begin in 2022 with the robotic assembly of the wings and the assembly of sections including oil tanks.
The Nagpur site ramp-up will see the construction of new buildings, in particular a kerosene test facility, paint facilities and a run-up area.
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Thats good and that is part of its obligations to offsets.,
Having this does not mean that it automatically qualfies to get orders.
Boeing already has several tie ups including those with HAL and Mahindra that puts them in much more better position than that of DRAL
HAL has experience to build planes, Mahindra is the private partner, and Boeing is one of the top companies in cutting edge technology.
Having this does not mean that it automatically qualfies to get orders.
Boeing already has several tie ups including those with HAL and Mahindra that puts them in much more better position than that of DRAL
HAL has experience to build planes, Mahindra is the private partner, and Boeing is one of the top companies in cutting edge technology.
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Local subcontracting partners
In parallel, the qualification of the first Indian suppliers was initiated by the purchasing and total quality departments (DGA and DGQT). Several companies, such as Mahindra, LMW, Maini and TAL, will produce protected and painted metal parts , which will then be assembled in Nagpur. New partners are being sought to expand this network.
The first assembly tools are also being manufactured by Indian subcontractors such as Hemkund, TAL, Alpha Tocol or Assystem India.
Essential to the success of our project, the training of companions began in France to strengthen their aeronautical skills. A partnership with Indian academic institutions is also under study.
Finally, DRAL's information system will comply with our standards. The technical data will be managed with Dassault systems software, such as 3DExperience, and will be operated with SAP.
Translation
Local subcontracting partners
In parallel, the qualification of the first Indian suppliers was initiated by the purchasing and total quality departments (DGA and DGQT). Several companies, such as Mahindra, LMW, Maini and TAL, will produce protected and painted metal parts , which will then be assembled in Nagpur. New partners are being sought to expand this network.
The first assembly tools are also being manufactured by Indian subcontractors such as Hemkund, TAL, Alpha Tocol or Assystem India.
Essential to the success of our project, the training of companions began in France to strengthen their aeronautical skills. A partnership with Indian academic institutions is also under study.
Finally, DRAL's information system will comply with our standards. The technical data will be managed with Dassault systems software, such as 3DExperience, and will be operated with SAP.
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Specific payloads branch
A specific industrial sector for payloads is developing in cooperation with the company DEFSYS, based in Gurgaon, near New Delhi.
In 2018, it will assemble the CRB 201 pylon and the ADP 170 adapter for the respective payloads of 2000-litre tank and MICA intercept and air combat missiles under the Rafale wing, using kits supplied by Dassault Aviation, before producing them entirely, from 2019, with primary parts made by Indian companies.
New transfers for the manufacture of drop tanks are being implemented, with the active support of the French company AEds.
Translation
Specific payloads branch
A specific industrial sector for payloads is developing in cooperation with the company DEFSYS, based in Gurgaon, near New Delhi.
In 2018, it will assemble the CRB 201 pylon and the ADP 170 adapter for the respective payloads of 2000-litre tank and MICA intercept and air combat missiles under the Rafale wing, using kits supplied by Dassault Aviation, before producing them entirely, from 2019, with primary parts made by Indian companies.
New transfers for the manufacture of drop tanks are being implemented, with the active support of the French company AEds.
Our Directorates-General, the Programme Directorates and the Legal and Insurance Directorates are mobilised. They contribute to the success of the project, in cooperation with the general management of industrial operations, Company industrial pilot of the Make in India, with the aim of the first take-off of the Falcon 2000 from Nagpur and, one day, that of the first Rafale manufactured in India.
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India has long been recognized as a centre of high competence in IT development. As part of Make in India, part of the development sub-contracting, usually awarded to French companies, has been entrusted to the Indians.
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As with software development, some traditional engineering work will be carried out by Indian companies.
An engineering centre is under study. Its mission will be to ensure local developments, such as the design of structural elements, support for production activities or the development of support systems.
The challenge for the DGSI consists in making all the tools and Company reference systems available to Indian subcontractors and Dassault Aviation personnel in charge of supervising them, in an environment controlled and secured by us.
The possibility of working in collaborative mode in India, as if the engineering centre were in Saint-Cloud, will mark the success of this project. It involves the establishment of a dedicated and efficient France-India gridded network, with an infrastructure managed from Saint-Cloud.
Translation
India has long been recognized as a centre of high competence in IT development. As part of Make in India, part of the development sub-contracting, usually awarded to French companies, has been entrusted to the Indians.
[....]
As with software development, some traditional engineering work will be carried out by Indian companies.
An engineering centre is under study. Its mission will be to ensure local developments, such as the design of structural elements, support for production activities or the development of support systems.
The challenge for the DGSI consists in making all the tools and Company reference systems available to Indian subcontractors and Dassault Aviation personnel in charge of supervising them, in an environment controlled and secured by us.
The possibility of working in collaborative mode in India, as if the engineering centre were in Saint-Cloud, will mark the success of this project. It involves the establishment of a dedicated and efficient France-India gridded network, with an infrastructure managed from Saint-Cloud.
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Finally, the objective is to deliver verified aircraft and products to customers that fully comply with their specifications.
For the programme directorates, this translates into four major challenges.
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The experience gained will enable us to implement the expectations of the Make in India of future Indian Rafale contracts.
Translation
Finally, the objective is to deliver verified aircraft and products to customers that fully comply with their specifications.
For the programme directorates, this translates into four major challenges.
- Use the execution of the 36 Rafale Indiens contract to promote transfer scenarios in the fields of production, but also logistical support and studies in order to achieve the local manufacturing transfer rates necessary to obtain future contracts.
- To associate Dassault Aviation, its subcontractors and its Indian partners through formal and rigorous processes of methodological transfers.
- Meet deadlines in this new remote environment.
- Controlling costs, seeking competitive gains to obtain a return on the major investments made.
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The experience gained will enable us to implement the expectations of the Make in India of future Indian Rafale contracts.
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DeepL misses on some subtleties of the French language here. It's the démarches (processes) that are formal and rigorous, but that word entirely disappeared from the translation.
- To associate Dassault Aviation, its subcontractors and its Indian partners through formal and rigorous processes of methodological transfers.
There was no mention in the RFP of the fact that the winner has to take the full responsability of the quality of the planes made by HAL, without the possibility of intervening inside HAL ...
whichever who win L1, (Boeing, SAAB, EF, mig...) the answer would have always been the same : NO ! too risky. Specially with HAL.
EXCLUSIVE : first indian Rafale, coded RB008 will fly this month (or early october)
In a Su-30, when the plane is flying like this it is usually just before crashing.
