MMRCA 2.0 - Updates and Discussions

What is your favorite for MMRCA 2.0 ?

  • F-35 Blk 4

    Votes: 31 13.1%
  • Rafale F4

    Votes: 187 78.9%
  • Eurofighter Typhoon T3

    Votes: 3 1.3%
  • Gripen E/F

    Votes: 6 2.5%
  • F-16 B70

    Votes: 1 0.4%
  • F-18 SH

    Votes: 9 3.8%
  • F-15EX

    Votes: 9 3.8%
  • Mig-35

    Votes: 1 0.4%

  • Total voters
    237
Older delivery schedule graphic, but evidently they are on track for IOC this year as planned. Weapon integration at least for Sweden is already going on, but interesting weapons for Brazil:

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😊 Jags will be in operational service beyond 2030 and Hawks even longer, because we kept ordering and producing them till recently and that shows, how much trust we have in British platforms.
If you don't have butter you eat only bread. If you are running out of bread, you dig for roots and collect berries. Why? Because otherwise you die.

That does not mean that you love/trust bread or berries or roots too much. If you could afford and arrange for meat and fresh veggies every day, you would love to have them.
 
Nice try, but there are multiple problems here. First of all the source, which is not really reliable. Secondly, your claim that the PESA has the same range as RDY, as far as I recall the old reports, it performed less. Lastly, the biggest problem for Meteor on Mirage, is not the radar, but the size restrictions on the fuselage stations =>

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Meteor is much longer than MICA and the gear bay opens right in between them. So unless we would integrate it on the wings, like the old Magic missiles (blocking an important wet station), Meteor is a no go for Mirage 2000 and probably also the reason why French air force is not considering it, but MICA NG EM instead. 😎

P.S. I am not the only that doubt the suitability of the radar.


There is another solution : a double central pylon. You loose the central external tank, but the 2 mains under the wings are free to be used.
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Replace the 2 bombs with 2 Meteor. Deadly !
 
P.S. I am not the only that doubt the suitability of the radar.
It is simplistic to characterize the range by the link balance. For example, it seems highly likely that the Swiss did not appreciate the radar range of the EF in "look down" mode. At Thales, the only explanation found was the poor frequency stability of the Captor's receiving chains:
  • Radars are able to use Doppler information from targets to distinguish those whose returns, mixed with those from the ground (Look down), are distinguished by their relative speed.
  • These Doppler radars are no longer only interested in the arrival time of the signal but above all in its phase in relation to that emitted.
  • These radars have become "coherent" and it is up to the receiving pilot to ensure extraordinary stability over time.
  • It is possible that some difficulties of the Eurofighter in look down are due to a Pilot who is not stable enough
The range of the Captor in "look down" was of course lower than the RBE2 AESA, and... not much better than the one of the PESA.
And it should be noted that the doctrine of use of the Typhoon in Air-Air is to attack the objective from a high and fast position so using the look down mode of the Radar. :)
 
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CAATSA still exists, I though they would have morally scrapped CAATSA by now.
Last I recalled, lot of threats & tweets to India on CAATSA were coming our way (coercion to India bad idea), India went & did a flurry of deals with Russia, just to make a point, must have totaled atleast a dozen billion plus since, somewhere down the line, all threats stopped coming, few which did didn't have the intensity.
So they migrated to small fish like Egypt, to capture the market illegally by threat.
 
CAATSA still exists, I though they would have morally scrapped CAATSA by now.
Last I recalled, lot of threats & tweets to India on CAATSA were coming our way (coercion to India bad idea), India went & did a flurry of deals with Russia, just to make a point, must have totaled atleast a dozen billion plus since, somewhere down the line, all threats stopped coming, few which did didn't have the intensity.
So they migrated to small fish like Egypt, to capture the market illegally by threat.

CAATSA is aimed at the Middle East and 'enemies' of the US, not others.

So Egypt, Turkey etc are among the targets. I don't know what the US will do about Saudi Arabia though, 'cause they are interested in the S-400, as are Qatar and UAE. UAE also wants to develop a next gen jet with Russia since America is not allowing the imports of the F-35 to many ME countries.
 
CAATSA is aimed at the Middle East and 'enemies' of the US, not others.

So Egypt, Turkey etc are among the targets. I don't know what the US will do about Saudi Arabia though, 'cause they are interested in the S-400, as are Qatar and UAE. UAE also wants to develop a next gen jet with Russia since America is not allowing the imports of the F-35 to many ME countries.
Saudi Arabia just take US THAAD for 4 billions... End of the S400 story there I think.
 
S-400 and THAAD are not comparable. The S-400 is an integrated air defense system, while the THAAD is specifically a missile defense system. The THAAD is there to protect against Iran's ballistic missiles, not to shoot down enemy airplanes.
 
S-400 and THAAD are not comparable. The S-400 is an integrated air defense system, while the THAAD is specifically a missile defense system. The THAAD is there to protect against Iran's ballistic missiles, not to shoot down enemy airplanes.

The American argument would be to use the Patriot and THAAD together instead of buying the S-400. Of course we know that the Americans have not developed something in the same class as the S-400.

The Americans are going to have to make something in the same class if they want to force someone else to opt for American systems. Maybe a combination of ESSM, SM-2 and SM-6 mounted on trucks.
 
S-400 and THAAD are not comparable. The S-400 is an integrated air defense system, while the THAAD is specifically a missile defense system. The THAAD is there to protect against Iran's ballistic missiles, not to shoot down enemy airplanes.
You're right.
I doubt US will accept to mix THAAD and S400.
 
Sir, can you provide the delivery schedule of 36Rafael jets month wise for India beginning with September this year
The official schedule is a first delivery in September 2019 and a last delivery in June 2022, i.e. 36 aircraft in 30 months worked, which is a little more than one aircraft per month. Then between June 2022 and September 2022 there is a software retro-fit for the specifically Indian ISE.
 
So India will have its 36 Rafale before Brazil has its 36 Gripen while Brazil signed its contract on 27 October 2014 and India signed its contract on 26 September 2016.
 
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They're Qatari aircraft, so the standard is a variant of F3R.

I'm pretty sure the cannon is on the other side of the aircraft.