Link 22 is successor of Link16 which India is also considering for armed forces along with other existing users of Link16.
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No, Link 22 is a successor to the Link 11. Link 16 is complementary to the Link 22, not a replacement. In the future NATO will use much more advanced datalinks based on SDR, technologies similar to the Rafael BNET.
And no, we are most definitely not going for either Link 22 or Link 16. For now BNET is our future for the IAF. The IA will use indigenous TCS and BMS. The IN is already integrating indigenous SDR.
For integration with the US and allies like Australia and Japan, we will use American UCAVs and P-8I as a node to link up. So the UCAVs and P-8I will carry India-specific hardware along with American hardware. This is IN-specific.
I agree with your statement that Link 22 is successor of Link 11. However I disagree on using P-8I and UCAV as a communication node link up as these platforms are recent procurement. We have been using US's Centrix satellite-based system as a communication channels since more than a decade now during exercises.
What is the status of Bnet integration on IAF communication systems including fighters?
BNET is a SDR that will be used in mk1a what about drdo developed SDR are they comparable.
there is a requirement of thousands of sdr in air force BNET will be only used in mk1a whereas rest of demands will be met by drdo developed SDR.
The amount of work that can be done though P-8I is far superior. It's a battle management system after all.
India recently got into the Centrixs network. But this is a totally different system.
BNET has already been integrated in many ground and air systems.
DRDO SDR for the air force is a no show. The IAF has decided to use Israeli systems for now. At best, there may be some limited use.
Maybe in the future...
Neither. The Israelis use their own older gen comm system. They still need to upgrade it, probably starting with F-35. I don't know what their plan is.
ORCA getting approval and backing from all sectors expect few criticism that it will not be equal to Rafale in every field
The pilot who helped Tejas breast the FOC tape
The pilot who helped Tejas breast the FOC tape
The how come PAF got our comm. details, specially Abinandan and his ground controller (forgot the lady's name)
Oh, that's simple. PAF got our comm details etc, because you are reading propaganda.
Anyway, during Balakot, we did not have BNET. Work on it commenced only a few days before Balakot.
Well it will be ahead of rafale in some fields too. It's thrust will be 200kn vs 150 kn max available for Rafale. It's performance should be in league of typhoon.
India started operating P8Is recently, it's operating the mentioned secure communications system from way before that. Another thing, P-8I is altogether a multirole platform which "needs" secure communication channel to operate effectively, not the other way around. Centrix system is just a plug and play system which enables to share the data on almost realtime basis with security protocols engaged. Both can't be compared at all as one is a plane while second one is just a tool for secure communications. Thank you.
There seems to be some confusion here.
During exercises, the Americans provide the CENTRIXS hardware, and then they take it back after the exercise ends. It's not something we can use operationally. But after we signed COMCASA, now CENTRIXS hardware can be permanently installed on P-8I and ships, and we can use it operationally. And this will allow us to communicate with non-Indian forces carrying the same hardware.
What your're saying is the P-8I cannot operate the CENTRIXS?
Nowhere I have said that India can't use Centrix system on operational level, however there is nothing in public domain to the best of my knowledge if that has happened already or not, hence my original query on Link 16 specifically, or any other US based secure communications system in service with Indian armed forces.
Refer to post 1514.
I don't know if that's happened either. Only Indian systems right now.
P-8Is are being upgraded, and new ones are being delivered, so these may have the CENTRIXS.
Refer to post 1519. I have tried to dig in some information on communication systems procurement. So far I could find only three systems which might have Link16 or any other secure communications system on board. Hence my specific query if French suppliers have received any such requests from Indian authorities/armed forces.
I makes sense that if we are integrating BNET on mk1a then we should also integrate it on other aircrafts as well then only link can be created between them.But can't drdo SDR be interconnected with BNET?
To answer this, no, IAF has no interest in adding American comms to their jets.
There is no advantage and this will bring in the unnecessary American personnel into IAF bases. The same with the army.
India-US communication pact faces uphill climb
A senior Pentagon official who participated in CISMOA negotiations with India confessed: “When we sat down with the MoD in Delhi and the CISMOA experts explained the draft, even we were taken aback by the intrusiveness. We looked at each other and rolled our eyes [indicating], ‘this is not going to happen’.”
To assess the key hurdles, Business Standard has scrutinised the text of the CISMOA that the Republic of Korea (South Korea, or ROK) Ministry of National Defence (MND) signed with the US DoD on October 27, 2008. That text requires Korea to provide US personnel access to Korean military bases; reserves for US personnel the right to install, maintain and inspect CISMOA-controlled equipment; bans the transfer of CISMOA-controlled equipment to any third party; bans its indigenous production; and stipulates stringent safeguards for securing, storing and accounting for COMSEC (communications security) equipment obtained from the US.
Paragraph V of the agreement requires ROK to pay the full cost of reconfiguring its communication systems to be interoperable with US military systems, and for testing the Korean systems, whenever required.
Paragraph IX of the agreement stipulates: “DoD-provided COMSEC equipment and materials, including keying materials, will be installed and maintained only by authorized US personnel… When authorized by the US, qualified ROK personnel may remove and/or replace US COMSEC equipment previously installed by US personnel.”
Paragraph X mandates that “DoD-provided COMSEC equipment and materials, including keying materials, will not be subject to any cooperative development, co-production, co-assembly or production licensing agreements.”
So any Link 16 for operational use on Rafale requires to provide access of US personnel in Indian bases. During exercises, the Rafale can carry comm pods anyway.
But the same can be done for P-8I and American UCAVs, especially when they make regular visits to these bases to inspect them. Which is why a system like CENTRIXS being available to the P-8I makes sense.