Multi-Role Carrier Borne Fighter For The Indian Navy - Updates & Discussions

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Picdelamirand-oil said:
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Nope.

We have also received information pointing to two very long-range AIM-54 Phoenix shots dating from the 1970s. One apparently involved a target drone downed at just over 126 miles after the missile was launched from an F-14A Tomcat. The other, reportedly achieved during a training exercise in Iran, in January 1979, saw an AIM-54 hit a target drone at a range of 132 miles.
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F-15 Eagle Scores “Longest Known” Air-To-Air Missile Shot During U.S. Air Force Test

The AIM-120 AMRAAM blasted a BQM-167 drone out of the sky at an unprecedented distance.
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Aim-120D broke the phoenix record which makes its range longer than Meteor.
 
Innominate said:
Nope.

We have also received information pointing to two very long-range AIM-54 Phoenix shots dating from the 1970s. One apparently involved a target drone downed at just over 126 miles after the missile was launched from an F-14A Tomcat. The other, reportedly achieved during a training exercise in Iran, in January 1979, saw an AIM-54 hit a target drone at a range of 132 miles.
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F-15 Eagle Scores “Longest Known” Air-To-Air Missile Shot During U.S. Air Force Test

The AIM-120 AMRAAM blasted a BQM-167 drone out of the sky at an unprecedented distance.
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Aim-120D broke the phoenix record which makes its range longer than Meteor.
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Meteor>>>>>>>>>> AIM-120D. Period.

Get your head out of your egotistical American a s s and see the truth. Maybe AIM-260(with Ramjet/Scramjet) matches or exceeds Meteor. AIM-120D is obsolete.
 
Picdelamirand-oil said:
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Chinese and Pakistani jets just need to run away, when Indian Rafale goes up in the air. The attrition Rafale would be able to impart with Meteor is going to be bloody for them.

Indian Gov should directly choose Rafale-M because so far F/A-18E/F hasn't got anything like Meteor in its arsenal. Rafale with Meteor should match or exceed J-15 with PL-15 combo. But Super Hornet with AIM-120D is going to be seriously outgunned.
 
Rajput Lion said:
Chinese and Pakistani jets just need to run away, when Indian Rafale goes up in the air. The attrition Rafale would be able to impart with Meteor is going to be bloody for them.

Indian Gov should directly choose Rafale-M because so far F/A-18E/F hasn't got anything like Meteor in its arsenal. Rafale with Meteor should match or exceed J-15 with PL-15 combo. But Super Hornet with AIM-120D is going to be seriously outgunned.
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Living the dream
 
Rajput Lion said:
Meteor>>>>>>>>>> AIM-120D. Period.

Get your head out of your egotistical American a s s and see the truth. Maybe AIM-260(with Ramjet/Scramjet) matches or exceeds Meteor. AIM-120D is obsolete.
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Meteor is definitely a superior missile the AIM120D, but it is some 20 years earlier now to tell that AIM120D is obsolete.
 
So 8 twin seaters for Nuclear role..
Airforce already has 8.
16 jets will be made available for nuclear role.
 
Optimist said:
Australia could buy Meteor, like they bought ASRAAM. Yet we were approved and got AIM-120D
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Australia to Buy 450 Advanced US-Made Air-to-Air Missiles

The U.S. State Department has cleared a sale of advanced air-to-air missiles to Australia.
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Meteor is still not integrated in UK's F-35, forget about yours.
_Anonymous_ said:
That's so thrilling to hear pops. What were you going to mount the Meteor on ?
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The plan was for F-35s to also be integrated with Meteor. So far even UK has failed to do so. America doesn't like foreign weapons on its warplanes. That's the sole reason for delay.
Hydra said:
Meteor is definitely a superior missile the AIM120D, but it is some 20 years earlier now to tell that AIM120D is obsolete.
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USAF is actively pursuing AIM-260(with maybe Ramjet/Scramjet/Multiple pulse solid rocket motor??!!), which means they know that AIM-120D is now outdated against Meteor/PL-15/R-77M.
 
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Rajput Lion said:
The plan was for F-35s to also be integrated with Meteor. So far even UK has failed to do so. America doesn't like foreign weapons on its warplanes. That's the sole reason for delay.
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Was aware of it. I think it was one of the French members here who highlighted this in the not so recent past. I wanted him to answer this .. But knowing pops, he wouldn't. Yet he goes about labelling the French here as deceitful. I mean most Aussies actually don't mind being taken for a ride by the Americans or the British . The upcoming submarine deal is a good example of what I'm hinting at.
 
_Anonymous_ said:
In which case I don't know where did @vstol Jockey come up with his 16+8 formula ? Or perhaps that was the original requirement in the tender - 16 FAs + 8 x 2 seater trainers.

Frankly I really don't know what prompted him to state the "Rafale trainers " don't land on the AC when there aren't any dedicated marine trainers to begin with according to this post .

Pls check #1398 by vstol jockey .
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Thde IN tender is for 16 single seaters and 8 twin seaters. The trainer word has been used in the context of two seater. One aspect which has been completely overlooked by all the members is that IN needs more inter operatibility between its own assets than with that of IAF. IN has inducted P-8Is and also MH-60 helos and F-18 can just join in the web of these machines.
 
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Hydra said:
No, no two seater Rafale M variants yet.
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Yes, as per Picdelalmirond oil,

France uses 2 seater for Nuclear role.

One of the reasons we chose is for nuclear role, .. So Airforce has 8 , now navy also intent to procure 8 .
 
Sathya said:
Yes, as per Picdelalmirond oil,

France uses 2 seater for Nuclear role.

One of the reasons we chose is for nuclear role, .. So Airforce has 8 , now navy also intent to procure 8 .
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two seater cannot land on as deck. So there is no point in IN keeping this.
 
Rajput Lion said:
Meteor is still not integrated in UK's F-35, forget about yours.

The plan was for F-35s to also be integrated with Meteor. So far even UK has failed to do so. America doesn't like foreign weapons on its warplanes. That's the sole reason for delay.

USAF is actively pursuing AIM-260(with maybe Ramjet/Scramjet/Multiple pulse solid rocket motor??!!), which means they know that AIM-120D is now outdated against Meteor/PL-15/R-77M.
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I'll take it as national pride and move on.
 
Sathya said:
Yes, as per Picdelalmirond oil,

France uses 2 seater for Nuclear role.

One of the reasons we chose is for nuclear role, .. So Airforce has 8 , now navy also intent to procure 8 .
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There's no nuclear role assigned to the IN nor IAF. All such assets are normally under the control of the SFC & aerial assets are procured by the IAF not the IN under their maintenance , based in the IAF bases , just as SSBNs under SFC command are maintained by the IN in specialised Underground naval pens .

See #1432 for how the confusion came about .
 
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Whatever..You know that the UK and France are partners on it? We already use MBDA weapons and have partnerships with them for new weapons...UK is paying for it to be fitted to the F-35..It's just a purchase. You know what the UK in AUKUS is right?
 
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Rajput Lion said:
Meteor>>>>>>>>>> AIM-120D. Period.

Get your head out of your egotistical American a s s and see the truth.
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Aim-120D launched at a target greater than 200km likely 225-230km since it broke the Pheonix 200km+ shot. TRUTH!

Rajput Lion said:
Maybe AIM-260(with Ramjet/Scramjet) matches or exceeds Meteor. AIM-120D is obsolete.
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Aim-120D obsolete? Talk about ego. Lulz. You are nothing but an emotional zealot that craps out emotional rants when your reality gets slapped with real facts.

Aim-120D is a 200km+ missile and that is a fact you're going to have to choke on. ;)
 
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Innominate said:
Aim-120D launched at a target greater than 200km likely 225-230km since it broke the Pheonix 200km+ shot. TRUTH!


Aim-120D obsolete? Talk about ego. Lulz. You are nothing but an emotional zealot that craps out emotional rants when your reality gets slapped with real facts.

Aim-120D is a 200km+ missile and that is a fact you're going to have to choke on. ;)
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If you understood the difference between SFDR(solid fuel ducted ramjet) powered Meteor and single-pulse solid rocket powered AIM-120D, you wouldn't make such a blanket statement.

Truth is, AIM-120D is outranged and lacks end game kinematics of both Meteor and PL-15(also R-77M). Unfortunately, your false American pride can't accept this truth.
 
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