Got a link that says they have MGTI now? I would think it comes with the radar upgrade. The French had no money to develop the Rafale. They wanted lots of stuff, dating back 20 years. It was stated the sale of secondhand Rafale was to get some development money. The French air force has been stripped of numbers, that were going to be built. The numbers and updates are still a powerpoint
IAF was in hurry for new fighter since kargil war, 23 years ago. So our definition of hury is having different meaning here.
what made French to rethink about GMTI now?
In the list of decreasing priorities it is its turn to be developed
The Radar upgrades we did for India are classified so the only thing you'll get in the open sources is "radar and SPECTRA upgrades" with no further details. The GMTI is not important enough for its existence to be classified, but in France we don't classify information one by one but we fully classify any document containing classified information.
Is this unimportant like the HMD? That everyone is happy about.
As I said, it will come with the F4 update. Why tell stories?
The is like France announcing they want SEAD/DEAD in the Rafale in 2030. While the fanboys said it had it 20 years ago
Indian Rafales' SPECTRA has in-built low band jammers, so that thing is pretty much known. Maybe our Rafale also have much fabled "active cancellation" of even LPI radars
I think you will find that it is Israeli jammers. The upgraded radar will most likely be LPI and will have DRFM, which I think is what they mean. Though with rapid switching, that's getting harder. Active cancelation is a fantasy.Indian Rafales' SPECTRA has in-built low band jammers, so that thing is pretty much known. Maybe our Rafale also have much fabled "active cancellation" of even LPI radars
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No way.
All AESA radars are LPI by design. RBE2-AA has already this mode from its inception. Even the earlier RBE PESA had LPI mode.
Now this is interesting. I think you are correct. With this our Rafale would be able to do EA/Active Jamming/Deception Jamming with its AESA radar. This is quite game-changing.
Go and tell that to the French because no one has pursed it more than them.
It is a fantasy, but even Eurofighter is trying to copy us!
Typhoon’s 'Digital Stealth' Can Evolve To Meet Changing Threat | AIN
Agile mission data reprogramming is a key to aircraft survivability in the face of advanced threats.
www.ainonline.com
Low Band Jammer (LBJ) pod with a frequency band of 1- 4.5 GHz. I thought I saw that it was an Israeli pod. It didn't say in what I googled. There would be better info on what Israel provided, I don't think the French has such.
Bill Sweetman gave it active cancelation (it's a longer story and would be on google) and the frogs ran with it,
Active cancelation is a very specific mode used on single frequency search radar many years ago. Digital stealth is another term for mission EW library. As the article saidIt is a fantasy, but even Eurofighter is trying to copy us!
Typhoon’s 'Digital Stealth' Can Evolve To Meet Changing Threat | AIN
Agile mission data reprogramming is a key to aircraft survivability in the face of advanced threats.
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The GMTI will be in the F4 radar upgrade with the other stuff.
Non-Cooperative Target Recognition (NCTR) mode in Radar
Doppler Beam Sharpening (DBS) and Synthetic Aperture Radar (SAR) modes in Radar
Ground Moving Target Indicator and Ground Moving Target Track (GMTI/T) modes in Radar
Non-Cooperative Target Recognition (NCTR) mode in Radar
Doppler Beam Sharpening (DBS) and Synthetic Aperture Radar (SAR) modes in Radar
Ground Moving Target Indicator and Ground Moving Target Track (GMTI/T) modes in Radar
As I have been saying. this is a good reason to get the rafale
"Both the aircraft are okay. They have proved themselves. But now there will be other issues, for example, we already have Rafales for the Air Force. Now there will be commonality for spare parts and support etc"
Rafale M Or F-18, Navy ‘Okay’ With Both, Ball Now In Govt Court: Navy Chief Hari Kumar
With the Air Force already operating Rafale jets, there may be commonality for spare parts for Navy’s fighter programme for INS Vikrant, Chief of Naval Staff R Hari Kumar tells ABP Live
Does the last sentence mean that we're politely telling Uncle SAM that your jet is good but we're going for Rafale-M because of ease of maintenance
It's not that simple...
If France Safran offers something irresistible it's Rafale and if uncle Sam GE offers something irresistible it's F-18. (Read Jet Engine Technology)..
If we are going for F18,its fine. Better overall naval aircraft, but problem is its production lune. There is ample chance that TEDBF will delayed like the way Tejas did or worst case scenario of project getting failed. So if goi is choosing F18,it should be 57 pieces or else better to go for Rafale.
This is correct. I was told that rafale-M is better as more of them can be kept inside the hanger due to the spot factor but this is also true that more number of F-18s can be kept on deck as they have smaller foot print on deck. Plus F-18 can be taken inside the hanger easily while Rafale-M will need the wingtip rails removal, everythime it needs to be taken inside the hanger. The total load out of F-18 is far superior to what has been demonstrated by rafale-M. One more factor was manitenance and commonality between IAF & IN if Rafale-M is selceted but this got nullified as the IN needs 16 fighters and 8 trainers and Rafale-M does not have a deck based trainer, so the trainers bought by IN vl not be able to go to deck.
Your last point is very intriguing. Why would IN need trainers in a 1:2 ratio ? Secondly if the Rafale M don't have a deck based trainer how does French Navy train it's aviators ? Moreover isn't that an automatic disqualifier for the Rafales given they don't have two seaters as it is which was a stipulation of IN in the tender .
Do we need to keep aircraft on the deck always? I think its bad for airframe because of marine conditions.
I dont think training will be issue, because IN can get trained with IAF twin seaters.