Until and unless we sign the deal with france, everything is speculative.It's laughable the number of forumers who wake up and start attacking France, now that we have won the MRCBF and that we don't see how we could lose the MRFA. Technically it's impossible, so there remains malevolence and politics.
The F-16 was rejected for being too old. The SH was rejected for both being old and a still untested engine, the EDE derivative.
Connecting Rafale with Indian stuff will be easier than with American stuff. It's because while the French are fine with working on comm tech, the US doesn't do the same by law.
So American stuff can only talk to American stuff, and even the French are forced to use American stuff.
The SH wasn't such a big danger, but it depended on them handing over engine tech, with LCA Mk2, TEDBF, AMCA Mk2 and SH flying the same engine. Plus carrier aircraft don't have very long lives.
I was following the comp at the time on Keypub forum. don't try to reinvent history.
Yes but now I can't imagine India signing with Boeing, the SH F-18 assembly line will be closed...
Remembering c17 case? Mod babus are stupid enough to start procurement proces after production line closed and shameless enough to seek items from US reserve.
If PLAN attack us with their CBG, Rafale M would be at the forefront. So why not?
Rafale M weighs around 10 tons empty and has 150kn max power. That's almost Thrust to weight ratio of 1:5. While SH produces 196kn thrust against empty weight of 14.5 tons. There is no way its Thrust to weight ratio is better than Rafale. Once we integrate Brahmos NG and Rudram series missiles onto Rafale M, its versatility is going to increase several fold.
So even if Rafale lacks in area you pointed out, it excels in others.
E/A-18G was not in contention. No point discussing it here.
One correction. F/A-18E/F does carry an IRST on its centreline fuel tank. According to reports that IRST can pick VLO fighters in frontal sector(subsonic) over 100 miles(160kms).
This way or that, Rafale M is much better fighter for us. Its ITR/STR is much better. It can supercruise. It has world's most lethal missile in Meteor. And Dassault has agreed to integrate our Indian weapons onto it. So that adds to its versatility. Like it or not, GOI made the right call. Time to move on.
This seriously looks like someone was paid by Boeing to bring out all the frustration.
Pic you have 36 planes, the papers are saying 26 planes.. is it 3.42m euro for 26 planes? Can you put up the like to where you got these numbers from.
This is just some emotional rant from someone in Boeing.
This seriously looks like someone was paid by Boeing to bring out all the frustration.
SH F-18 BLK3 has total of 232KN thrust and is far more evolved aircraft in every manner than the blk2 aircraft which were part of MMRCA evaluation.
This is just some emotional rant from someone in Boeing.
Not Boeing, but anti-Modi rant.
The article smells of "corruption hua hai" language. Note title of article... "Part 2".
The newest engine on SH F18 blk3 has 75.75KN dry thrust and 116KN wet thrust. check out the official boeing site.
F/A-18 Super Hornet
Boeing has developed the Block III Super Hornet to complement existing and future air wing capabilities. The upgrades have evolved to complement other U.S. Navy aircraft to effectively operate together in the air wing for decades to come.
Nothing to do with modi or anything. Its a natural reaction from people, when you trying to procure an aircraft which is ridiculously expensive while comparing with the other aircraft participated in tender, that too when both the aircraft is cleared technical parameters set by the user.
Is it confirmed that Rafale is going to induct? I beleive, as a platform FA18 SH is more deadly than Rafale during an indo china war due to US's ISR & weapon available for FA18.The newest engine on SH F18 blk3 has 75.75KN dry thrust and 116KN wet thrust. check out the official boeing site.
F/A-18 Super Hornet
Boeing has developed the Block III Super Hornet to complement existing and future air wing capabilities. The upgrades have evolved to complement other U.S. Navy aircraft to effectively operate together in the air wing for decades to come.www.boeing.com
Problem with planes like Super Hornet and F-35 is that once your enemy has equal tech, your chances of blowing him out from over 100 miles becomes a pipe-dream. What if enemy nullifies your sensor advantage and closes in. In that scenario both F-35 and SH are sitting ducks against Chinese Flankers. Rafale M, even in that situation is an amazing fighter. Chances of Rafale M piloted by Indian Navy pilots coming on top of PLAN J-15s and others is much higher than not.
Rafale>>SH/F-35. Period.
Rafale>>SH/F-35. Period.
It's a shame that we have to buy foreign fighters even after 75 years of independence. I hope whatever aircrafts we are buying this decade, be the last foreign aircraft we ever procure and going forward we have poorna swaraj in the aerospace sector.
Again, not part of block 3. Even the USN did not take it.The newest engine on SH F18 blk3 has 75.75KN dry thrust and 116KN wet thrust. check out the official boeing site.
F/A-18 Super Hornet
Boeing has developed the Block III Super Hornet to complement existing and future air wing capabilities. The upgrades have evolved to complement other U.S. Navy aircraft to effectively operate together in the air wing for decades to come.