That's actually exactly what you've been doing on here. You're a goldmine of quotes today.
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That's actually exactly what you've been doing on here. You're a goldmine of quotes today.
Vedic people existed even before 700BC when zarathrustha came. Also, Aryan theory is nonsense. Who are the aryans? Is it the white people with black hair or blonde hair? How can you explain people having blonde hair? Where did they come from?
Indianness is dependent on culture, not bloodline. Race is distant second. I have been repeatedly telling this but you just keep insisting same thing. We simply can't care if you think ahura mazda made bloodline links. It is irrelevant. Place of birth is also irrelevant.
Next, since you claim to have great links to bloodline, it should be irrelevant if modern parsis got something or not. If your father is given something, it is similar to giving you something. That is the point of giving prominence to bloodlines.
I did not know that Farsi was spoken in Bombay.
I thought it was Gujarati.
But what do I know. I am only Indian. Not an American observer and expert Indologist.
Not to worry about the Visa bit though. There are regular tours for Parsis several times a year. Much like the Haj. Or your Kedarnath Yatra.
It really is a beautiful country. With very good looking people.
Cheers, Doc
Once again Vijyes bhai, ignorance embarrassingly on display.
Keh raha hun bhai, apne dharam par nazar dalo. Doosron mein guru gyan na baanto.
Cheers, Doc
So are we pretending now that Parsis don't ever lace their language with Farsi words and phrases? Either you don't know what I'm talking about, or far more likely you're pretending to be naive, either way, a waste of my time.
People like you are Indians the same way Jinnah was (and now don't try to play naive talking about how he was born in Karachi, it was undivided India at the time).
Ones who probably won't care much for you, but go give it a shot, go ahead and move there. After all you must feel suffocated in the saffron Pakistan that you are cursed to live in.
We speak a mongrelized Gujarati man. Wonder whether you've been talking to Irani Zoroastrians instead ...
Lolwa
Parsis and Jinnah. You are really more American than I took you for ...
Again, why should it tickle you.
Not your land. Not your people. Not your ancestral faith.
Leave us Parsis to deal with things with our blood brothers and decide what we must do.
Cheers, Doc
And you think I don't know that when I've engaged you in Gujarati before...?
Not Parsis, just you. The Tatas are Indians, and they've done an incredible amount for India. Field Marshal Manekshaw and Dr. Bhabha were Indians, and did an incredible amount for India. Their allegiances were clear, and none of them could be found spouting Pakistani propaganda about India. You on the other hand, are increasingly doubtful to me since your stay at the other place.
It doesn't, I just find it kind of sad; but please, by all means, go if it's so much better. Leave the "saffron Pakistan" to "non Indians" like me.
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What will in all probability happen is that Parsis will not move en masse to Iran like the Jews did.
They will however increasingly set up industry and enterprises back on the ancestral land.
There will be a significant degree of Zoroastrian resurgence and the setting up on the ancient fires back in their ancestral origins once more. There will be Indian Parsi Zoroastrian priests and clergy working with Iranian Zoroastrian priests and clergy to re-educate Persians in the true path of Asha.
Indian Parsis and Iranian Zoroastrians and soon Iranian reverts will start inter-marrying increasingly, with family ties across India and Iran.
But I do not know about dual nationality or whether the Iranians allow it. The Indians would either keep their Passports or become NRIs or PIOs.
I believe this will pick up once the current regime weakens. It had already started and been going on during the days of the Shah.
Over a few generations things will be very different in Iran from what they are today. And I believe the current Shia clergy already sees that and has begun to make moves.
It took 300 years for Iran to fully convert. It might take less than a hundred once the momentum snowballs for it to revert. And it need not even be total. The world has seen what 150,000 Parsis can do. 20-25 million will be a different ballgame. Like Israel.
The biggest barrier more than culture and historical revisionism will be LANGUAGE.
I do not see how the holy Avesta can ever be written in a script that is borrowed from the Arabs.
@STEPHEN COHEN
And yeah, @Kshithij Sharma , you never know. The TATAs might even get a lot of that vital oil to India ....
Cheers, Doc
They will however increasingly set up industry and enterprises back on the ancestral land.
There will be a significant degree of Zoroastrian resurgence and the setting up on the ancient fires back in their ancestral origins once more. There will be Indian Parsi Zoroastrian priests and clergy working with Iranian Zoroastrian priests and clergy to re-educate Persians in the true path of Asha.
Indian Parsis and Iranian Zoroastrians and soon Iranian reverts will start inter-marrying increasingly, with family ties across India and Iran.
But I do not know about dual nationality or whether the Iranians allow it. The Indians would either keep their Passports or become NRIs or PIOs.
I believe this will pick up once the current regime weakens. It had already started and been going on during the days of the Shah.
Over a few generations things will be very different in Iran from what they are today. And I believe the current Shia clergy already sees that and has begun to make moves.
It took 300 years for Iran to fully convert. It might take less than a hundred once the momentum snowballs for it to revert. And it need not even be total. The world has seen what 150,000 Parsis can do. 20-25 million will be a different ballgame. Like Israel.
The biggest barrier more than culture and historical revisionism will be LANGUAGE.
I do not see how the holy Avesta can ever be written in a script that is borrowed from the Arabs.
@STEPHEN COHEN
And yeah, @Kshithij Sharma , you never know. The TATAs might even get a lot of that vital oil to India ....
Cheers, Doc
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It is a tough draw. At present Arsenal morale is low. It all depends on the home game because Arsenal are not playing good on away games these days.
When nothing to reason, deflect.
He is a shiv sainik and is now upset that Shiv Sena is going down because of BJP. So, all this nonsense comes out.
You now say that Irani Zoroastrians are different from Parsi Zoroastrians. But you seem to be overly eager about muslim persians and their bloodline.
Strange isn't it?
Not really. You cannot even spell Zarathushtra's name correctly. And lower casing Ahura Mazda makes your motives pretty clear.
Ok. So you are a PDFer. Interesting ...
Not strange at all. The only difference between Parsi and Irani Zoroastrians is the time we came to India, the route, and the language we speak. As well as some customs (marriage, Navroz, etc). And yes, we follow different calendars.
There is nothing called as Muslim Persians.
Persians are Zoroastrian. It does not matter that they have called Ahura Mazda as Allah for a thousand years. They have pretty much turned what was still Arabic about Islam on its head and Zoroastrianized it anyway.
We will simply finish and formalize the reversion back to the true path of Asha.
Cheers, Doc
You are one of the "others" I put in quotes.
Read into it what you will ....
Cheers, Doc
Sure. Call us Congressis.
Call us liberals.
Cal us seculars.
I personally would be least offended by any of these. I am a liberal (in most things not directly linked to my family) and a secular. I'm not a Congressi (really) but I wil vote for the Congress so that the BJP does not get my vote. But I won't sweat it if you call me a Congressi either. I do believe in the Congress and what it has done for our nation.
But don't be kiddish and say
Khangressi
Libtard
Sikular
Hope you get my point.
Cheers, Doc
But it's the second set of words that actually apply to the group that you have allied yourself with. You people aren't liberal or tolerant in the true sense of the word, you people are not secular in the true sense of the word; so if the ideological stream/group you belong to has decided to *censored*ize things like liberalism and secularism in practice, then why should we not use *censored*ized versions of those words to refer to them?
And if you think those terms are offensive, then we're all adults here, do you think we don't know the implied connotations of the word "sanghi" when you use it?