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Its clear that there are very few anti bjp anti hindutva voices here.

It is sad to see that these are being attacked in communal overtones.

By attacking their prophet (Muslim) or their church or rice bags (Christian) or their ancestors who came here for refuge from their cousin civilization (Parsi).

In effect they want a Sanghi echo chamber here. And they will succeed. The way things are going.

Cheers, Doc

Cut the shit and quit falsely playing the victim. You and the ideologically affiliated trolls you provide cover fire for like GND are getting what you deserve. You are being attacked for trolling and enabling trolling, not for having opposing viewpoints. You specifically are also being targeted for being a massive hypocrite with generous doses of snobbery.

Nobody had ever attacked you for being a "refugee" until you decided that you were the final authority on who is Indian, who isn't and how Indian everyone is. You tried to weaponize that argument and shut me down during a debate because you couldn't counter us on facts or logic; so then I let you have it, and reminded you exactly who you are, and why it is that you have the good fortune of being an openly practicing Zoroastrian living in India today with full rights, instead of being a Shia in Iran or dead as most of your fellow Persians ended up. Additionally, you have no room to look for sympathy or play the victim on the basis that we call you a refugee, because you hardly ever miss a chance to preach your racial and cultural superiority over your own "cousins" (your words) who gave you refuge.

This isn't about making the place a sanghi (a term I object to by the way) echo chamber, it's about making this place troll free - so either learn to debate in a civil and logical manner, or we'll see to it that you and your ilk like GND don't last.
 
@vsdoc , my lengthy response to you got deleted for no logical reason at all, but let me make this short and straight forward to you. As long as you decide to act as an authority on who is Indian, and as long as you try to establish your racial and cultural superiority over your own "cousin" Indians, I will keep reminding you who you really are and why you didn't end up Shia or dead like most fellow Persians.
 
@nair , this isn't remotely about opposing viewpoints and don't even pretend that it is. GND is a troll and vsdoc enables and supports him. Either teach them to debate in a civil and logical manner, or we'll keep putting them in their place.
 
It's like you go baba or raja . A term of endearment or respect.

"Bawa" means an old man, but it usually means an eccentric old man when used w.r.t parsis, crazy old man who is full of idiosyncrasies like shouting at people etc.

The name comes from their frequent bout of strange and asocial behavior due to a long history of inbreeding. If you have gone to any old Irani cafe and watched the behavior of the man behind the counter, you would know what I mean.

 
No, @vsdoc is neither congie nor sickular. He is someone else. :p

Please stop people getting communal here.

You are one of the many Hindus I like and have known for years because of which I do not go Mongol here.

And you know that I can go mongol and what happens then to holy cows and other animals.

And how much I give a fig then when that switch goes ....

Cheers, Doc
 
Please stop people getting communal here.

You are one of the many Hindus I like and have known for years because of which I do not go Mongol here.

And you know that I can go mongol and what happens then to holy cows and other animals.

And how much I give a fig then when that switch goes ....

Cheers, Doc

Go ahead then, nobody's scared, you'll just end up banned like you were from the last place. And this time, I sure as hell won't be pleading leniency with the mods on your behalf.
 
No, @vsdoc is neither congie nor sickular. He is someone else. :p

I dont care who he is. I normally dont get into political debates but when I see someone who is equally filthy in his line of thought but pretend to take moral high ground and start preaching I dont hold myself.
Earlier it was Bono preaching everyone for GND and now he is playing his godfather and preaching others about civility. I wonder if he ever reported Gomata, gomutra and other craps which he usually posts.
 
@Srinivas Three Back to Back loss for Arsenal. They'd finish at #6 this season. Arsenal europa league clash against Milan will be Cumbersome & can bring Curtains to it's campaign. Wenger should be Fired!
 
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@Srinivas Three Back to Back loss for Arsenal. They'd finish at #6 this season. Arsenal europa league clash against Milan will be Cumbersome & can bring Curtains to it's campaign. Wenger should be Fired!
Yes Arsenal F.C. is going through a crisis.
Wingers power is also diminishing in the club, there is new scout and things are changing in the club. Most probably this might be the last season for Wenger as a manager of Arsenal f.c.

Arsenal are prepared to spend on new additions this summer and I guess we will be back in 1 or 2 seasons to the top.
 
Yes Arsenal F.C. is going through a crisis.
Wingers power is also diminishing in the club, there is new scout and things are changing in the club. Most probably this might be the last season for Wenger as a manager of Arsenal f.c.

Arsenal are prepared to spend on new additions this summer and I guess we will be back in 1 or 2 seasons to the top.

Arsenal will be fighting for #5-6 spot in Premier Leauge for couple of seasons now. It needs to get lot of things sorted out in its squad - Goalkeeper, Defense etc...

Do you think they can beat Milan?
 
You were able to put your "innate" qualities and traits to work because you were given a safe, conducive environment where you were accepted.

Fair enough my friend.

As long as you also realize that such was the case only for the first generation of settlers who came as Persians.

And that was 1358 years ago.

Their kids were born on this land. And all generations after them. As Indians.

Parsis did not come here either as invading looters nor as pole vaulters. We had been doing trade with you for centuries, using the same sea routes and ports we landed on. Using that as sanctuary was the obvious choice.

You (as in modern day Hindus) have given me (modern day Parsis) nothing. Nor have you done any special favors for the tone of entitlement used.

We were born Indians as you were (sorry, not you personally of course ...)

Modern day Hindus too carry bloodlines of Vedic Aryans who came here from us. Same people. Same place. Much much earlier.

So just because they inter-bred with the native indigenous population does it mean that they are "more" Indian than Parsis who did not, and came later?

How about your Jats?

How about your Agnikul Rajputs?

Indians?

Any thank you's needed there ...?

Cheers, Doc
 
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None of this in the present day would be possible if you weren't given a place to re-set your roots. And every time you forget that and insult our country (to which I have far deeper roots than you do, sorry), I will remind you of this fact. Historically speaking, you're still little more than a tourist, and judging from your comments, one that's ready to go back soon; do send us a postcard from your wonderful Shia dystopia of Iran if they don't behead you for practicing your ancient faith.

And every time you insist on preaching about your cultural and racial superiority, I will continue to remind you of these facts. There has never been any ill will towards Parsis from us, any potential threat to Parsis from Hindus is little more than a fragment of your overly creative imagination.

Finally, yes; we were here much longer than you and mingled with the local population, and we consider ourselves one with this land and all of its people. Most importantly, wherever it is that we may or may not have come from, we're not the ones with one eye still set on returning, nor do we harbor grand delusions of receiving a spectacular welcome in any other land.

Well, Iran is the ancestral spiritual homeland of Zoroastrians the world over.

Including Indian Parsis.

And yes, our claim on the land remains. Regardless wherever in the world we may be currently.

It is very very similar to the story of the Jews.

You should not be the one to snigger about Parsis returning to Iran, especially when your parents chose to make their homeland in a distant land with no connect of blood or faith or history.

For the Parsis, Iran is all three. So a bit less of the holier than thou spiel please.

Its funny when you call an Indian a historical tourist, when you yourself actually come to India as one in the real world, in the present.

Cheers, Doc
 
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Its funny when you call an Indian a historical tourist, when you yourself actually come to India as one in the real world, in the present.

It's not funny actually, it's sad because it's true. I'm the one who goes out of his way to visit India and maintain links there, you are the one daydreaming about returning to Iran while shitting on India which took you in. What a wonderful "Indian" you are lmao.
 
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Alright, so if it's your true home and India is so terribly intolerant, go ahead and go back. See if Iran offers you the same tolerance and opportunities that India always has.

And frankly, your community aside, don't compare yourself personally to Jews. Jews aren't Ehsaan Faramosh like you, every Jew I meet here whose ancestors fled persecution loves America and is eternally grateful to it. They don't talk shit about the same country that took them in (or its native populace).

I don't, I snigger about people like you who trash India and Hindus after everything they gave to your ancestors, while harboring grand delusions of returning to the fanatical, authoritarian, Shia dystopia that is Iran to a hero's welcome, where you think you will be allowed to practice your ancient religion, while native born Iranians who never left face severe persecution for practicing it.

Toh phir tum toh na ghar ke rahe na ghaat ke. Unlike you I'm not burning my bridges with Americans here, and unlike you, my ancestral homeland will not reject or persecute me.

Golden Advice, you should take it to heart.

You do realize that this is an academic discussion on the internet between an Internet Hindu and a Parsi Zoroastrian.

The medium providing common ground.

In the real world you need a Visa to visit my country.

As a tourist.

With all the same rights and privileges we afford to other foreign tourists.

Exactly like when we visit Iran as a pilgrimage to go back to the land of our ancestors.

Only difference being - I do not pretend to be an Iranian and an expert on all things Iran in the present world.

Cheers, Doc
 
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You do realize that this is an academic discussion on the internet between an Internet Hindu and a Parsi Zoroastrian.

The medium providing common ground.

In the real world you need a Visa to visit my country.

As a tourist.

With all the same rights and privileges we afford to other foreign tourists.

Cheers, Doc

HAHAHAHAHA, all out of arguments. Aa gaye na aukaat pe? Ever since your stay at the Green place you have become little more than a troll like your buddy GND.

Don't worry about my ability to visit, my OCI card makes it pretty damn easy. You should start looking up how to get a Visa of Iran, and while you're doing that, you might also want to start learning fluent Farsi (the kind spoken in Iran, not Bombay).
 
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