hey, it is defense day! you celebrate defending for the war you started. kekThey have a national holiday for their 1965 loss.

Even for 1971 they have weird excuses like western front we won, of the 93000 surrendered only 30k were army etc

hey, it is defense day! you celebrate defending for the war you started. kekThey have a national holiday for their 1965 loss.
This time around their people saw with their own eyes their airbases burning and how helpless they were to our drones and cruise missiles.They have a national holiday for their 1965 loss.
Yes, not good for India. This isbad for India unless pak splits via BLA & TTP.
In addition to your points - I think democratic leaders must be seen as reasonably by electorate. Hence, they want to look reasonably.Let's get real. India has no actual political or economic clout to erase a country off of the planet.
And we most definitely do not have the power to remove a country that others want around in order to suppress us. Only Israel wants Pak gone, the rest are scared of India.
As I've been saying for years, we need 3 things to be able to do what we want. A large enough economy is the default. But apart from that, we need energy independence (15 years), food independence, and technology independence (15 years, military and civilian). We are only good on food. The Russians can do whatever they want because they have all 3. Had they had a large enough economy, they would have been a superpower today. The Chinese have only technology, but will get energy in 10 years.
Someone's told Trump to stop India, and he did. And we don't have the power to say no.
What about chinese spillover of such technology into Pakistan?If Pak is to fix itself, the first institution and the last institution that needs fixing is the PA. So rest assured, nothing's happening on that front. They will just beg more shamelessly from now on. They have made their bed, they gotta lie in it.
Modernizing a military is one thing, but modernizing enough to fight India is a whole different story. As I've always said, warfare will soon belong only to the rich. In 5-10 years, only countries with a vast civilian-military industrial and financial ecosystem can fight wars at the highest level.
Take our forces, for example. The services are integrated, but there's no tri-services integration yet. Just that alone was enough to pummel Pak into oblivion. What will happen when we establish a proper space presence and full tri-services synergy like the US and China? Then there are whole new industries coming up that require civilians to take the lead, quantum, biotech, nanotech, AI, medical engineering, space etc in order to deliver byproducts to the military. You won't be able to buy these technologies with money.
Pakistan's gonna have to develop each industry all on its own to compete with India's military. Good luck to them.
100% agree.
It is so disheartening to see that the IAF could not claim even a single air kill.
More importantly.... India could not establish an air superemacy... even it its own airspace. Thats ... frightening. To say the least. Pakistan's air force should not have been possible to go anywhere near our airspace.
But janab Chaina has lumber 1 air defence which can even intercept mach 25 Agni 5 like the eastern comrade claimed. I'm sure the glorious HQ whatever air defnece system will be capable of shooting down any nuclear missile.In addition to your points - I think democratic leaders must be seen as reasonably by electorate. Hence, they want to look reasonably.
Id China is in india's position, they would have never agreed to ceasefire. They would be willing to risk a nuclear exchange.
Wtr to air to air we need Astra mk2 and mk3 by 2030. We also need as many members in this forum have said a stealth fighters, either Su57 or F35 to face J35 that Pakistan will get as AMCA will be coming in more than a decade from now. Imo we need to get Su57 as it may be easier for us to integrate our own weapons on it compared to F35.
They killed a PAF mirage but that's still as good as nothing. We should have smoked Jeff or J10.100% agree.
It is so disheartening to see that the IAF could not claim even a single air kill.
Even then either of them would be competitive to J35. We need something to match J35 at least because 40 AMCA will not be achieved before 2040 even.The IAF doesn't consider F-35 and Su-57 as stealth jets.
kek@randomradio do you think we took out their AWACS on ground? I think so... Some idiot called RescueRanger in PeeDeeEff was also hinting that.
Lucman claiming Modi is attacking because he is sexually repressed
Situation will always remain that very rich will give toys to hungry poors. That is not going to change ever.
hey, it is defense day! you celebrate defending for the war you started. kek
Even for 1971 they have weird excuses like western front we won, of the 93000 surrendered only 30k were army etc![]()
They lost in western Front as well loosing more than 15,000 km² of land during the course of the war which IG gave them back for free.hey, it is defense day! you celebrate defending for the war you started. kek
Even for 1971 they have weird excuses like western front we won, of the 93000 surrendered only 30k were army etc![]()
They dont need to. They can get DeepSeek and hardware to run DeepSeek for free from China. Nations and armies do not consume technology, they consume products. A nation like Pakistan can consume products without ever mastering or developing any technology.Does not go beyond a certain point. Many technologies are denied for export.
You think Pakistan can walk up to Elon and buy Grok?
This time around their people saw with their own eyes their airbases burning and how helpless they were to our drones and cruise missiles.