Operation Sindoor: India Strikes Terroist Camps Inside Pakitsan

Yes, not good for India. This isbad for India unless pak splits via BLA & TTP.

BLA and TTP combined are barely around 12000 strong. They can't split Pakistan without massive infusion of funds for weapons and paying recruits. And we have a policy of non-interference, because interference means pissing off the Taliban and Iran.
 
Let's get real. India has no actual political or economic clout to erase a country off of the planet.

And we most definitely do not have the power to remove a country that others want around in order to suppress us. Only Israel wants Pak gone, the rest are scared of India.

As I've been saying for years, we need 3 things to be able to do what we want. A large enough economy is the default. But apart from that, we need energy independence (15 years), food independence, and technology independence (15 years, military and civilian). We are only good on food. The Russians can do whatever they want because they have all 3. Had they had a large enough economy, they would have been a superpower today. The Chinese have only technology, but will get energy in 10 years.

Someone's told Trump to stop India, and he did. And we don't have the power to say no.
In addition to your points - I think democratic leaders must be seen as reasonably by electorate. Hence, they want to look reasonably.

Id China is in india's position, they would have never agreed to ceasefire. They would be willing to risk a nuclear exchange.
 
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If Pak is to fix itself, the first institution and the last institution that needs fixing is the PA. So rest assured, nothing's happening on that front. They will just beg more shamelessly from now on. They have made their bed, they gotta lie in it.

Modernizing a military is one thing, but modernizing enough to fight India is a whole different story. As I've always said, warfare will soon belong only to the rich. In 5-10 years, only countries with a vast civilian-military industrial and financial ecosystem can fight wars at the highest level.

Take our forces, for example. The services are integrated, but there's no tri-services integration yet. Just that alone was enough to pummel Pak into oblivion. What will happen when we establish a proper space presence and full tri-services synergy like the US and China? Then there are whole new industries coming up that require civilians to take the lead, quantum, biotech, nanotech, AI, medical engineering, space etc in order to deliver byproducts to the military. You won't be able to buy these technologies with money.

Pakistan's gonna have to develop each industry all on its own to compete with India's military. Good luck to them.
What about chinese spillover of such technology into Pakistan?
 
100% agree.

It is so disheartening to see that the IAF could not claim even a single air kill.

The IAF is yet to reveal the damage they have done.
More importantly.... India could not establish an air superemacy... even it its own airspace. Thats ... frightening. To say the least. Pakistan's air force should not have been possible to go anywhere near our airspace.

@Parthu

There you go. Get the bad news out of the way first in preparation for good news.
 
In addition to your points - I think democratic leaders must be seen as reasonably by electorate. Hence, they want to look reasonably.

Id China is in india's position, they would have never agreed to ceasefire. They would be willing to risk a nuclear exchange.
But janab Chaina has lumber 1 air defence which can even intercept mach 25 Agni 5 like the eastern comrade claimed. I'm sure the glorious HQ whatever air defnece system will be capable of shooting down any nuclear missile.
 
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One thing, this whole nation all of us should give a standing ovation to our all 3 armed forces. Specifically to IA and IAF guys, i am in awe of their tactical brilliance. I mean getting an Islamic jihadist country with nukes to scurry back to talking table even for just a show, given the fact that our military pounded them so fking bad, hitting at their heartland is nothing short of being the most formidable and lethal military in the continent.
And yes i have my reservations regarding the ceasefire acceptance still but the political leadership also deserves a round of applause. Specially PM cuz i don't think we have had this kinda guy in decades atleast since 1971, who would give such free hand to the forces.
I just hope and pray that no more innocent lives are lost in our country following the ceasefire(if its still under agreement that is)
 
Wtr to air to air we need Astra mk2 and mk3 by 2030. We also need as many members in this forum have said a stealth fighters, either Su57 or F35 to face J35 that Pakistan will get as AMCA will be coming in more than a decade from now. Imo we need to get Su57 as it may be easier for us to integrate our own weapons on it compared to F35.

The IAF doesn't consider F-35 and Su-57 as stealth jets.
 
100% agree.

It is so disheartening to see that the IAF could not claim even a single air kill.
They killed a PAF mirage but that's still as good as nothing. We should have smoked Jeff or J10.
The IAF doesn't consider F-35 and Su-57 as stealth jets.
Even then either of them would be competitive to J35. We need something to match J35 at least because 40 AMCA will not be achieved before 2040 even.
 
@randomradio do you think we took out their AWACS on ground? I think so... Some idiot called RescueRanger in PeeDeeEff was also hinting that.
kek🤣
that hakim ranger was deleting anything showimg the hammering they received before, so it is suprising he is saying it.

But fb post says the hangar collapsed, 5 died immediately and 40 odd were inside the hanger and are injured. So, you can guess they must be working on saab when hangar collapsed and damage must have been done. But I feel it might be repairable like the one TTP caused which PAF restored it again.
 
Situation will always remain that very rich will give toys to hungry poors. That is not going to change ever.

Does not go beyond a certain point. Many technologies are denied for export.

You think Pakistan can walk up to Elon and buy Grok?
 
hey, it is defense day! you celebrate defending for the war you started. kek🤣

Even for 1971 they have weird excuses like western front we won, of the 93000 surrendered only 30k were army etc🤣
They lost in western Front as well loosing more than 15,000 km² of land during the course of the war which IG gave them back for free.
 
Does not go beyond a certain point. Many technologies are denied for export.

You think Pakistan can walk up to Elon and buy Grok?
They dont need to. They can get DeepSeek and hardware to run DeepSeek for free from China. Nations and armies do not consume technology, they consume products. A nation like Pakistan can consume products without ever mastering or developing any technology.