Pakistan Economy : Updates and Discussions

Mark my words, come what may, the PA will never be starved for finds.

Eventually they too should run out, but I am pointing to something else

We should know about the revenue of the fauji foundation to understand that, they have every kind of industry from food to cement and all.

Revenue of the Fauji group is trivial at the scale we are talking about. Its 2017 revenue was about 1.5 Billion.Take out the generous salaries, expenses, the net disposable income will not be over 500 million. Best guess cash reserves are 4-5 Billion (all channels black and white included).

The point I am making is that the Pakistan army has a war chest - taken literally. Their country might be bankrupt but they have the cash to fight a decent war. This is why they have not folded yet.
 
Eventually they too should run out, but I am pointing to something else

Revenue of the Fauji group is trivial at the scale we are talking about. Its 2017 revenue was about 1.5 Billion.Take out the generous salaries, expenses, the net disposable income will not be over 500 million. Best guess cash reserves are 4-5 Billion (all channels black and white included).

The point I am making is that the Pakistan army has a war chest - taken literally. Their country might be bankrupt but they have the cash to fight a decent war. This is why they have not folded yet.
Pak makes a lot of money by laundering money for "secular" Indian netas, narcotics etc
 
Anyone notice the other side of the equation? Pakistan does not have two pennies to rub together, but the Army is buying new gear and also making emergency off the shelf purchases?

Does any one feel its a bit strange?
The point I am making is that the Pakistan army has a war chest - taken literally. Their country might be bankrupt but they have the cash to fight a decent war. This is why they have not folded yet

The first rule of Pakistani existence or planning is India is your enemy and even if you have to sell your family members always have money for jihad against India.

They are never confused like us that we can be friends or things can ever be normal, even if you surender Kashmir the terrorism won't end, they want Lal Qila of Delhi cuz some jackass told them they ruled India for 1000 years and also Spain.

The jackass forgot to tell the rulers were never from the geography called Pakistan today, if anything they were the first to get raped and looted as per Islamic rules whenever some Islamic conquest of India happened. Anyway delusions and insecurity of Pakistanis aside this indoctrination is embedded in their pysche, they want to return to glorious old days of Muslims ruling the Delhi and Spain.

Indian case is very confused, we genuinely believe and still do that we can be friends with Pakistan, that there is something called Hindu Muslim Bhai bhai that Pakistan will realize after we do good to them. This misconception comes after our experience with Indian muslims who are under no delusion of being Arabs unlike Pakistanis.

If Pakistan army has to sell Pakistani people's mothers and sister for money to fight against India they won't hesitate a bit. They are already doing it when their sisters and daughters being sold into brothel of China Pakistan army is conveniently taking their cut. Do you think they are not aware of these fake marriages and what happens afterwards? They are facilitators to appease Chinese to help them against India. They said it publicly that letting their Hubra Bustard killed by Arabs on their leisure trip is part of their foreign policy where girls and daru is provided to Arabs in the land of pure.

Pakistani hatred for India is permanent and it will end with end of Pakistan. They are ready to go to any length against India don't be under any doubt.
 
The first rule of Pakistani existence or planning is India is your enemy and even if you have to sell your family members always have money for jihad against India.

They are never confused like us that we can be friends or things can ever be normal, even if you surender Kashmir the terrorism won't end, they want Lal Qila of Delhi cuz some jackass told them they ruled India for 1000 years and also Spain.

The jackass forgot to tell the rulers were never from the geography called Pakistan today, if anything they were the first to get raped and looted as per Islamic rules whenever some Islamic conquest of India happened. Anyway delusions and insecurity of Pakistanis aside this indoctrination is embedded in their pysche, they want to return to glorious old days of Muslims ruling the Delhi and Spain.

Indian case is very confused, we genuinely believe and still do that we can be friends with Pakistan, that there is something called Hindu Muslim Bhai bhai that Pakistan will realize after we do good to them. This misconception comes after our experience with Indian muslims who are under no delusion of being Arabs unlike Pakistanis.

If Pakistan army has to sell Pakistani people's mothers and sister for money to fight against India they won't hesitate a bit. They are already doing it when their sisters and daughters being sold into brothel of China Pakistan army is conveniently taking their cut. Do you think they are not aware of these fake marriages and what happens afterwards? They are facilitators to appease Chinese to help them against India. They said it publicly that letting their Hubra Bustard killed by Arabs on their leisure trip is part of their foreign policy where girls and daru is provided to Arabs in the land of pure.

Pakistani hatred for India is permanent and it will end with end of Pakistan. They are ready to go to any length against India don't be under any doubt.
In this information age, the misconception of being the ruler of indian subcontinent won't last for long as when confronted with the fact that the only region of which was ruled by foreign Muslim for 1000 years is Pakistan..There is a reason why Afghans say Punjabis never stood up for anything in their history, Punjabi implying Pakistani in their racist mindset..it was only the Sikh empire which turned the tides of invasion against the Afghans and invaded Khyber Pakhtunwa..which Pakistan retained after British left India...The term "daalkhor" used by Afghans instead of Punjabi came into existence as initial Sikh jathedars were amritdharis and were vegetarian..and daal was best military ration for them as being dry it was easy to transport, easily available and has good nutritional value..When a Choudhary,Bajwa,Bhatti of Pakistan is confronted with the fact that he ain't no conquerer, they just lose it and autistic screeching is their last resort.
 
The first rule of Pakistani existence or planning is India is your enemy and even if you have to sell your family members always have money for jihad against India.

They are never confused like us that we can be friends or things can ever be normal, even if you surender Kashmir the terrorism won't end, they want Lal Qila of Delhi cuz some jackass told them they ruled India for 1000 years and also Spain.

The jackass forgot to tell the rulers were never from the geography called Pakistan today, if anything they were the first to get raped and looted as per Islamic rules whenever some Islamic conquest of India happened. Anyway delusions and insecurity of Pakistanis aside this indoctrination is embedded in their pysche, they want to return to glorious old days of Muslims ruling the Delhi and Spain.

Indian case is very confused, we genuinely believe and still do that we can be friends with Pakistan, that there is something called Hindu Muslim Bhai bhai that Pakistan will realize after we do good to them. This misconception comes after our experience with Indian muslims who are under no delusion of being Arabs unlike Pakistanis.

If Pakistan army has to sell Pakistani people's mothers and sister for money to fight against India they won't hesitate a bit. They are already doing it when their sisters and daughters being sold into brothel of China Pakistan army is conveniently taking their cut. Do you think they are not aware of these fake marriages and what happens afterwards? They are facilitators to appease Chinese to help them against India. They said it publicly that letting their Hubra Bustard killed by Arabs on their leisure trip is part of their foreign policy where girls and daru is provided to Arabs in the land of pure.

Pakistani hatred for India is permanent and it will end with end of Pakistan. They are ready to go to any length against India don't be under any doubt.

Agree to most of the points above. I am just trying to find the reason to the madness. Thinking like them is the first step in understanding what goes in their minds. I genuinely feel the level of misunderstanding and mistrust between the India Pakistan is far higher than the US-Soviet ever had, including the times the Cold War was at its peak.

Their level of misunderstanding about India is so high they actually thought Pulwama was a good idea. Whereas everyone else was looking at them and thinking - A nationalist government has been thrown a challenge 2 months before general elections. Sweet....

I am just trying to figure out how these guys work as a personal curiosity. I am sure better minds already have the answer on how and when to break them up
 
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Agree to most of the points above. I am just trying to find the reason to the madness. Thinking like them is the first step in understanding what goes in their minds. I genuinely feel the level of misunderstanding and mistrust between the India Pakistan is far higher than the US-Soviet ever had, including the times the Cold War was at its peak.

Their level of misunderstanding about India is so high they actually thought Pulwama was a good idea. Whereas everyone else was looking at them and thinking - A nationalist government has been thrown a challenge 2 months before general elections. Sweet....

I am just trying to figure out how these guys work as a personal curiosity. I am sure better minds already have the answer on how and when to break them up
Since you are so curious, I've make so bold as to recommend these, in case you're interested.

Pakistan: Courting the Abyss https://www.amazon.in/dp/9352641779/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_qOw5Cb55P8FWG


Pakistan: At the Helm https://www.amazon.in/dp/9352779339/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_8Ow5CbV2TSM2V

The author retired as a special secretary in the cabinet secretariat as a specialist in security matters especially related to Pakistan. That's code for R&AW. While there are plenty of books on Pakistan, it's army, it's national ideology, this can serve the purpose of a good primer.
 
I am just trying to find the reason to the madness
Religion, identity crises, inferiority complex, manufactured history to subside that inferiority and claim superiority, all these indoctrinate them right from childhood.

You talk to any Pakistani and see if he can even entertain the fact that they were humiliated very badly in 1965, it's a victory for them, they celebrate it as Defence Day, even when you show third country write-ups of the events most of them their own allies of that time. Logical reasoning is killed by absolute faith and steel grip of army to make anyone talking logic disappear from Pakistan. It's a lost cause, they don't need reason, even @safriz here will support Pulwama and Mumbai even when these two attacks made them pay exponential costs. He will tell you how it was good for Pakistan and how they are ready for war, don't look for logic, it doesn't exists.
 
Religion, identity crises, inferiority complex, manufactured history to subside that inferiority and claim superiority, all these indoctrinate them right from childhood.

You talk to any Pakistani and see if he can even entertain the fact that they were humiliated very badly in 1965, it's a victory for them, they celebrate it as Defence Day, even when you show third country write-ups of the events most of them their own allies of that time. Logical reasoning is killed by absolute faith and steel grip of army to make anyone talking logic disappear from Pakistan. It's a lost cause, they don't need reason, even @safriz here will support Pulwama and Mumbai even when these two attacks made them pay exponential costs.

I worked with a few. Made for fun discussions. Burki for Khemkaran, Asal Uttar for Chawinda. One is a son of a retired Colonel. Apparently his music and scotch loving dad fell out of favor during the Zia years and then simply fell behind.

Safriz has the same utility Johnny Lever has in bollywood movies. One of the reasons why I never respond to him.
 
IMF forces Pakistan to disclose all borrowing from China

Pakistan, for the first time, fully disclosed the debt taken from China which stood at $6.5 billion for the current fiscal year alone, equal to three-fourths of the $8.6 billion worth of total loans that Islamabad received in the past 10 months, show official documents