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Why would china want to fight India( in Mountain) before invading Taiwan?
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Why would china want to fight India( in Mountain) before invading Taiwan?
You are free to believe whatever you want, but I shall rather put my trust in my country's air force than you.Lol. I'm confident one day I'll make over a $ million per year in salary but reality says very likely won't happen.
IAF can be confident until the cows come home however reality tends to slap that confidence out of youz. Reality is IAF is in big trouble and they know it. Chicom Flankers are more advanced than IAF flankers and with the exception of IAF 36 Rafales chicoms J-10s are more advanced than any IAF fighter... take a guess why.
You don't have a damn clue what the J-20s performance is even with its new engines. And radio aint right he hasn't been right on anything and is a troll so what does that say about you for believing a troll?
I posted a video of a F-22 and F-35 pilot and if you'd watched it you wouldn't agree with such stupid claims.
Yawn.
Um... what? J-20 is no joke because J-10 and F-16 had an exercise together and j-10 tracked f-16 with irst and won.... what the hell does that have to do with F-35 being superior to J-20? What were ROE in this exercise? Were F-16's handicapped like F-15's were when taking on IAF flankers giving flanker a huge advantaged? See what I did there?
I count them non threat against US fighters but count them a huge threat to IAF fighters.
J-20 is evolving and it's a threat to both India and USA. But both are fully capable of dealing with it.
They don't have combat experience.
Against India, the Chinese can test their army, air force and navy at a much smaller scale with limited threat of escalation. India can provide the Chinese with enough experience that will help close the gap between them and the US, it would be better experience than what the US themselves have in fact. If the Chinese end up struggling against India, they will obviously recaliberate their stance in the short term.
What's understood is the Chinese have a very short duration of time to take Taiwan, that's 2025-30. Beyond that, the US would have earned itself enough time for their China-centric modernisation. So, assuming they fight India in 2024, it will give them enough time to fix any problems before their Taiwan invasion. Plus a short war with India will give them more experience than the Taiwanese.
As far as I'm concerned, as long as the Chinese have planned to take Taiwan using brute force this decade, India is going to be attacked.
It will be like, small scale war with Pakistan and India , after 10 months China will kick India. Then after 2 years Pakistan will kick India again , and after 1 year China will kick India. That's how they will engage India again and again and gain experience. In that process India will lose men, equipment, economy and ultimately will end up in a bad shape.
India has already overlapped the time, and if India had fought before this year and would have taken back the POK India would have secured it's territory for next 100 years. Now in future India is losing due to time's up.
Sorry to say but it's game over for Indians.
The opposite. The more time we buy, the less of an advantage both countries have. We will catch up with China faster and faster with each passing year, and Pakistan will go down the drain equally faster, while being chained to China.
Men, equipment and economy? China has more to lose. You forget that their population has started declining. They can't afford to keep getting into fisticuffs with India, especially when they have to deal with the US as well, and, in the future, Russia too.
How far is Delhi from LAC? max 400km direct displacement.
How far is Beijing or Shanghai from LAC min 1000km direct displacement.
If Chinese fire just their artillery it will fall on Delhi, you have BMD but not Artillery Projectile Defence. Then keep deciding who lost what and how much. This is simple commonsense. You cannot engage Pakistan and China together now.
You aren't catching anybody though.
It was only after the WTO that India even started outpacing Pakistan.
How? You're not even catching them, and when China's economy was your size they were growing way faster. Growth tends to slow as your economy gets bigger. When China's GDP was the same size as yours is now, they were growing at 15%, you're not even managing half that.
Incorrect, you cannot intercept artillery as efficinetly as BM. Because there will be 200 fired at you, China is not Palestine and you cannot fire 200 AAD PAD at them. Even if you use AA guns they will miss many.
More over India will be forced to defend their cities rather than concentrating on offense. Where you cannot inflict the same impact on China.
CNN, BBC Al Jazeera will show how smoke is rising from Delhi. Due to idiots and less IQ people sitting in North and South block.
China's slowing down.
Slower growth means it will just take longer to get to what they achieved. So what China did in 13 years, we can do in 18 years.
Anyway GDP isn't a good measure to compare India with China, it's not a good measure when there's an income difference. I'd actually say infrastructure is a better metric. What's interesting is we have more infrastructure than they did when they were at our level today. And a lot of our infrastructure projects are yet to deliver, like freight corridors, so we could see bigger changes within a few years.
Slowing down yes, but they're still growing at roughly the same rate as India despite being many times larger. When your size, they were growing >2x as fast as you are now.
Their current growth is only temporary. As time passes, it will continue slowing down. Especially the fact that they don't like immigration.
Otoh, ours should increase as our new infrastructure and economic sectors start delivering. India is basically entering its most crucial decade. It's when the middle class will grow to outnumber the poor.
You're missing the point. The growth of any nation falls as GDP/capita rises but theirs was way higher than yours at your present level.
Should, could.... The above fact far outweighs this. Another fact is China produces all their own stuff and India doesn't.
Growing as same rate as India? China is already in recession. Even the most loyal Chinese accept that the growth numbers are complete bogus just like their Covid numbers. China will be incredibly lucky to grow at 3% (per year) over next decade. There are big red flags in every sector. BTW those !5% growth numbers came from infrastructure and real estate development at breakneck speed. And now real estate market has crashed and the high speed rail company has a debt of $900 billion. Basically China was riding the tiger and now can't get down without being eaten.
India should follow a more sustainable growth pattern and average 7% growth over next 20 years is good enough.
I would expect the war within 2023. China's economy is in deep trouble and the social unrest is growing. A war with India will certainly help diverting the attention without attracting any international sanction.
If Xi wants to grab Taiwan, he can't wait till 2030. By 2030, the world would have significantly reduced their dependencies on China and Xi will not have much bargaining power. He has to act fast so that the world is forced to turn a blind eye and some middle ground will be reached (like Hong Kong model).
I don't think the combat experience at Himalayas will help much in Taiwan.
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