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No, as per just looking at the damn thing. Please, just look at one closely and then look at a J-20.

It's got a bloody luneburg lens on the front of it FFS. Also see all the ridiculous protrusions, crappy paint and panel gaps.

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You're talking about IRST? Well it is turned back when not in use and the backend is RAM quoted. Don't repeat the same BS over and over again.

Very soon your Typhoons will need to face 100s of Su-57. Get ready.
 
You're talking about IRST? Well it is turned back when not in use and the backend is RAM quoted. Don't repeat the same BS over and over again.

Very soon your Typhoons will need to face 100s of Su-57. Get ready.
It's a round ball FFS.


Very soon? We already have more stealth fighters than Russia, and that's the UK alone. The US has >1,000. NATO ~1,200. Russia has 12 Su-57 prototypes. I think we got it covered. :ROFLMAO:
 
It's a round ball FFS.


Very soon? We already have more stealth fighters than Russia, and that's the UK alone. The US has >1,000. NATO ~1,200. Russia has 12 Su-57 prototypes. I think we got it covered. :ROFLMAO:
Instead of making stupid claims about the NATO having ~ 1200 stealth fighters why don't you make yourself useful , Paddy in the one field where you have some expertise apart from tiresome songs, lousy tastes in movies & truly unfunny jokes all of which masquerading as geo political analysis in that septic tank of a thread named the Ukraine Russia war ?

Over there in the last post on the Dassault Rafale thread a claim has beern made that Mig-41 has a hybrid engine likely a turbojet+ramjet . All this because the Russians are apparently ahead of the rest of the world. Since you're keeping a keen watch on the development of hypersonic aircrafts in the UK, what do you make of this claim?
 
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As per Western propaganda.
As per Western propaganda.
Per Sukhoi itself claiming this.

Did you know the Su-57 Felon has the same RCS of a clean F/A-18 Super Hornet (and 1,000 times bigger than that of the F-35)?​


The configuration of the Sukhoi Su-57 Felon is an evolution of the Su-27’s shape adapted for the requirements of low visibility and supersonic speed and agility.

According to Sukhoi, the Su-57’s radar cross section (RCS) is reduced to an average figure of 0.3-0.4m2 compared to 15m2 for the Su-27. As explained by Piotr Butowski in his book Russia’s Warplanes, Volume 1, the main solution to reduce radar visibility is internal carriage of weapons. Radar blockers reduce reflections from the engine inlet guide vanes and are installed in the engine air intake ducts. The shape of the airframe has been selected to reduce the number of directions in which electro-magnetic waves are reflected, and to ensure these directions are the safest.
 
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Per Sukhoi itself claiming this.

Did you know the Su-57 Felon has the same RCS of a clean F/A-18 Super Hornet (and 1,000 times bigger than that of the F-35)?​


The configuration of the Sukhoi Su-57 Felon is an evolution of the Su-27’s shape adapted for the requirements of low visibility and supersonic speed and agility.

According to Sukhoi, the Su-57’s radar cross section (RCS) is reduced to an average figure of 0.3-0.4m2 compared to 15m2 for the Su-27. As explained by Piotr Butowski in his book Russia’s Warplanes, Volume 1, the main solution to reduce radar visibility is internal carriage of weapons. Radar blockers reduce reflections from the engine inlet guide vanes and are installed in the engine air intake ducts. The shape of the airframe has been selected to reduce the number of directions in which electro-magnetic waves are reflected, and to ensure these directions are the safest.
There's no reference to the Sukhoi claiming what the article claims it claimed. The entire article is based on some amateur expert on Quora which makes one think the article should've merely linked the Quora page & saved himself the botheration of writing the article & us from reading it. Further the article is 2+ yrs old.

Having said that your Lightnings are now proven to be utterly useless without the new engines which it's due to get by 2030 followed by certification to FOC. USAF practically haemorrages blood thru it's rear getting the Raptors in shape after a single flight & I'm not just referring to the money quotient here.

Besides both Raptors & Lightnings are being test fitted with external pylons when you've the biggest collection of < 4.75+ Gen FAs in the world.

If that's not all doesn't your B-21 Raider which can sneak behind enemy lines to bomb vital targets also require some sort of escort whereas previously the claim was it could carry out those bombing runs on it's own without any escorts.

I mean whom exactly are you guys taking for a ride? The world or yourselves?
 
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Pakistani fighter pilot impression of J-10C and his opinion about J-16. This article is 2 years old but still decided to post it here:

fighter pilot Omar said in an interview with Pakistani media that he believes that the most dangerous opponent is the J-10C fighter during the “Eagle” joint exercise, and he made an objective evaluation of the J-10C fighter and frankly said this fighter. Some aspects are quite good. Without the support of early warning aircraft, he is very good at sneak attack strategy.

IRST sneak attack capability of J-10C:

In an interview, he said that the J-10C is a terrible opponent. The J-10C can track and capture the target with only photoelectric detectors without using electronic radars, and the opponent has not even discovered that he has been tracked. The J-10C can be preemptive. , And the F-10C’s radar is very advanced and its detection capabilities are excellent. The radar reflection signal of the F-10C is much smaller than that of the F15SA. Without the support of an early-warning aircraft, the F-10C fighter can use sneak attack tactics to attack enemy aircraft.

Rates J-16 higher than J-10C(those who diss the Flanker for delta-canards should pay heed):

He also praised the J-16 fighter, believing that the J-16 fighter is stronger than the F15SA, and the J-16’s continuous hovering ability and mobility are very good, saying that if he is himself, he would rather encounter the J-10C fighter than face the J-16 fighter.

Link of full article here: Chinese J-10C is good at sneak attacks, but there are many problems - Defence View

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Pakistani fighter pilot impression of J-10C and his opinion about J-16. This article is 2 years old but still decided to post it here:



IRST sneak attack capability of J-10C:



Rates J-16 higher than J-10C(those who diss the Flanker for delta-canards should pay heed):



Link of full article here: Chinese J-10C is good at sneak attacks, but there are many problems - Defence View

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A Flanker is a high end jet, a J-10 cannot compete against it.
 
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A Flanker is a high end jet, a J-10 cannot compete against it.
According to some people, a Flanker is a turkey in modern battlespace whilst delta-canards are the perfect Flanker killers. Pakistani pilot just busted that bubble, IMO.
AESA radar, QWIP based IRST, carbon composite skin. Everything we're trying to implement in our Su-30 has already being done in J-16.

That's why Chinese rate is so highly. And now that Pakistani pilot confirms that J-16 is even a more dangerous opponent than J-10C.
 
According to some people, a Flanker is a turkey in modern battlespace whilst delta-canards are the perfect Flanker killers. Pakistani pilot just busted that bubble, IMO.

AESA radar, QWIP based IRST, carbon composite skin. Everything we're trying to implement in our Su-30 has already being done in J-16.

That's why Chinese rate is so highly. And now that Pakistani pilot confirms that J-16 is even a more dangerous opponent than J-10C.
Feb27:2019.
 
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The same day where two of our Avengers stopped PAF elite F-16 fleet consisting of multiple Vipers to enter Indian airspace, dodged multiple AMRAAMs, re-engaged and forced them to turn tail, thus turning Swift Retort into Swift Retreat, lol. Try hard.
Well. That's Hydra you are talking to.
Don't Expect a logical discussion.
 
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The same day where two of our Avengers stopped PAF elite F-16 fleet consisting of multiple Vipers to enter Indian airspace,
As per PAF F16 is not even assigned to cross LOC,it's not assigned to targets the ground position of us. It's was tasked to prevent IAF assets from engaging the Mirage jets, they succeeded in it.
dodged multiple AMRAAMs
Pretty impressive for a an the mainstay airsuperiority aircraft.yuck
 
turning Swift Retort into Swift Retreat, lol. Try hard.
They dropped ammunition inside indian military complex using PAF,fired missiles on IAF assets flying very well deep inside j&k.
By any standard it's an act of war.
They achieved their intention or not,only PAF & their guys in ministry can tell,but it tarnished our image as regional military power. So it's not Swift retreat at all.
Well. That's Hydra you are talking to.
Don't Expect a logical discussion.
Yup,he is talking all logical things so far.
 
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