I don't know what will happen in the future, in 2011 China, when the J-20 has just made its first flight, at that time China was a country exporting shirts, toys, cement and other primary industrial products, today we are a country exporting cars, 5G communications, LNG carriers, these 14 years, China's industry has undergone earth-shaking changes, for fighter aircraft, it's only going to change more
People's Liberation Army Air Force : News & Discussions
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I feel that there is no point in arguing with my Indian friends about how many J-16s China has, or who is stronger between J10C and Rafale. Our country is moving forward rapidly. If the J-20 fighter brought us fanatic love in 2011, then by the end of 2024, this aircraft brings us peace and comfort. Our nation will always go forward, in darkness and in light.
> Fuselage & IWB seems wider than F-22, J-20.
> Double wheel main landing gear like MiG-31.
> 3 pairs of Flaperons & 2 pairs split-aelerons.
> 2 intakes below & 1 intake on top? Hmm!! 3 engines jet?????
> USA created so many X & Y series of Experimental & Prototype jets for study. So i wouldn't be surprised if China just wants to study airframe design & flight characteristics by this kind of jet. May be China wants USA to force reveal their NGAD prototype.
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These are of the Chengdu 6th gen prototype. Apparently Shenyang also flew a 6th gen prototype. Are you guys able to find any pics?
Edit: I found these which claim to be Shenyang's 6th gen prototype but not sure if they're real. The design seems so different from the Chengdu prototype.
These are of the Chengdu 6th gen prototype. Apparently Shenyang also flew a 6th gen prototype. Are you guys able to find any pics?
Edit: I found these which claim to be Shenyang's 6th gen prototype but not sure if they're real. The design seems so different from the Chengdu prototype.
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Yea
The chengdu prototype has 3 engines (1 might be a ramjet?) and is clearly larger/wider.
Shenyang's seems more conventional with just 2 engines. There is some some speculation that the shengyang prototype has variable vertical stabilizers and can lay them flat when cruising and pop them up when in low speed.
Feels like the J-20 vs FC-31 contest from 13 years ago...
That's 2 6th gen prototypes coming out of China in 1 day. I think we'll see an H-20 reveal sooner or later too.
Means one of it eventually fall in to Pakistanis, by knowing what will going to be the actual amca timeline, Pakistan will get first sixth gen fighter much before we start operate a gen 5 jet.
You guys need to understand that the classification of GEN in China is different from what rest of the world follows. Plus what they have flown today has been flown by India over and year ago and its called Shakti. We did even better by testing Pushpak. The Space shuttle.
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The only Shakti I can think of is the ASAT test.
Even China has spaceplanes, it's not exactly a unique achievement or that relevant to what these are. The prototypes unveiled will have massive implications on the future of fighter squadron strength/quality between the PLAAF and IAF.
It's a s**t aircraft..... CCP is all about propaganda & deception ( sun tzu art of f@rts ) ........ Their mighty 5th generation plane has 4th generation technology and their 6th generation junk is very highly unlikely to have even 4.5 th generation one.
May be, may not be. But it definitely going to be more advanced than j20, right? And j20 being more advanced than the latest chinese flankers, some one can assume where will be our place.
What is shakti? Are you referring the asat weapon we tried? How it will be equivalent to the jet powered aircraft that Chinese flown today?
And pushpak, its just a TD for non powered glide weapon not a sixth gen fighter.
They can sleep peacefully, because their masters aka political leadership is sleeping peacefully by not doing anything even on the requirements IAF raised after 1999 kargil war ( mrca saga).
This has nothing to do with the space plane, you can see that the plane has a lot of aerodynamic rudder surface, which proves that this is still an object flying in the atmosphere, as for the Chinese space plane, there is not much information released, only some time ago, Xinhua News Agency issued a news, saying that China's reusable spacecraft, 248 days in orbit, something similar to X47b.
Wonder why the USAF is still keeping its NGAD prototype under wraps? Apparently flew much earlier. China has beat them to it.
There is a rumor that the sixth-generation fighter jets of Shenyang and Chengdu are not in competition, Chengdu's aircraft mainly focuses on high stealth, high speed, mainly focuses on ground attack, and has a great range, Shenyang's aircraft focuses on high mobility, high stealth, mainly focuses on air attack, and takes into account the design of carrier-based aircraft
Of course, it's all just rumors
Well, these words were common at Indian forums in 2011
Don't get me wrong but if we acquire Rafale or Tejas it becomes a game changer and when our adversary acquires something it is s-h-i-t and what not. We need to change this superiority complex.