People's Liberation Army Air Force : News & Discussions

There is a rumor that the sixth-generation fighter jets of Shenyang and Chengdu are not in competition, Chengdu's aircraft mainly focuses on high stealth, high speed, mainly focuses on ground attack, and has a great range, Shenyang's aircraft focuses on high mobility, high stealth, mainly focuses on air attack, and takes into account the design of carrier-based aircraft
Of course, it's all just rumors

Well, these words were common at Indian forums in 2011
What are the new avionics any idea?
 
Wonder why the USAF is still keeping its NGAD prototype under wraps? Apparently flew much earlier. China has beat them to it.
Because it is a real program and not propaganda. And what did Chyna beat us in.... revealing an empty prototype?

US has been flying sht for decades that hasn't been made public.

Whatever these are they aren't public yet.
 
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Some drawings & CADs of this new jet:
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Russians are trying to estimate it:
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You dont have any idea about the capabilities of chinese aircraft yet you are calling it junk!
No one does..... Only Chinese knows about their plane capabilities & they do not want anyone else to know because it will expose their BS.
 
No one does..... Only Chinese knows about their plane capabilities & they do not want anyone else to know because it will expose their BS.
I woke up to a news on a African Military Watch Telegram channel showing news about China donating 30 APCs to Burkina Faso.

That's Burkina Faso Military having 15 more modern APCs than Indian Army.
 
No one does..... Only Chinese knows about their plane capabilities & they do not want anyone else to know
True.
because it will expose their BS.
How you can assume that its a bullshit. Based on the advancement we see on civilian engineering products from chinese side, i cannot assume that their military things are just exagerated items.

Also its better to overestimate the chinese products and develop counter measures than underedtimate and got f*cked up in war. We all know how US developed F15 Eagel to counter Mig 25 and what it turned to be.
 
Let the PMO, IAF Top Brass, HAL, DRDO, MoD and Nirmala Tai lead the procession......
Nirmala is tje worst FM we have seen in recent history. DRDO, why woul we need chinese & pak when drdo is there to sabotage military modernisation, same hoes to HAL . Leave IAF, they can only propose things, and incapable to purchase even a screwdriver by their own without taking money from goi. PMO, headed by a gujju.
 
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Nirmala is tje worst FM we have seen in recent history. DRDO, why woul we need chinese & pak when drdo is there to sabotage military modernisation, same hoes to HAL . Leave IAF, they can only propose things, and incapable to purchase even a screwdriver by their own without taking money from goi. PMO, headed by a gujju.
The most disappointing is the behaviour of IAF. If they cannot do an white paper in parliament they should do an internal one atleast.

Get exact estimates of their budgets for next 15 years, get threat perception, rank their pain points and address them.

They currently act as extremely confused.
 
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What are the new avionics any idea?
My friend, these things don't get out. So far, we haven't even seen radar photos of the J-16
> Fuselage & IWB seems wider than F-22, J-20.
> Double wheel main landing gear like MiG-31.
> 3 pairs of Flaperons & 2 pairs split-aelerons.
> 2 intakes below & 1 intake on top? Hmm!! 3 engines jet?????
> USA created so many X & Y series of Experimental & Prototype jets for study. So i wouldn't be surprised if China just wants to study airframe design & flight characteristics by this kind of jet. May be China wants USA to force reveal their NGAD prototype.
I've released some photos that may be related to yesterday's new plane, showing the way his rudder works
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> Fuselage & IWB seems wider than F-22, J-20.
> Double wheel main landing gear like MiG-31.
> 3 pairs of Flaperons & 2 pairs split-aelerons.
> 2 intakes below & 1 intake on top? Hmm!! 3 engines jet?????
> USA created so many X & Y series of Experimental & Prototype jets for study. So i wouldn't be surprised if China just wants to study airframe design & flight characteristics by this kind of jet. May be China wants USA to force reveal their NGAD prototype.
A brief description of the future tailless fighter
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The third is the vertical and horizontal decoupling control technology of tailless layout. After the removal of the tail, both the longitudinal and heading control need to design the control plane on the wing, which inevitably leads to the problems of vertical and vertical triaxial coupling and the reduction of control efficiency. For tailless layout, the lateral and directional coupling will be more serious, and the control ability should also meet the requirements of coordinated large roll maneuvers within the flight envelope. Taking heading control as an example, as shown in FIG. 10 and FIG. 11, there are obvious differences in control efficiency under different heading control modes under different conditions. The United States X-47B unmanned aerial vehicle and the Russian "Hunter" unmanned aerial vehicle all use the open outer wing upper wing spoiler for heading control, the French "Neuron" unmanned aerial vehicle uses the outer wing lower wing spoiler for heading control, and the British "Thor" unmanned aerial vehicle uses the same
The course control is realized by the difference of the inner and outer elevon of the trailing edge of the wing. The above exploration can provide richer combinations and possible decoupling
Control conditions.

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Because it is a real program and not propaganda. And what did Chyna beat us in.... revealing an empty prototype?

US has been flying sht for decades that hasn't been made public.
All I'm saying is it would have made for an interesting comparison. Anyways, there's one (non-CGI) image purported to be NGAD doing the rounds online. Quite different compared to B-21 too. Looks like dorsal intakes and sharp beak-like nose-tips are going to be common on next-gen fighters.

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True.

How you can assume that its a bullshit. Based on the advancement we see on civilian engineering products from chinese side, i cannot assume that their military things are just exagerated items.

Also its better to overestimate the chinese products and develop counter measures than underedtimate and got f*cked up in war. We all know how US developed F15 Eagel to counter Mig 25 and what it turned to be.
I can assume because of Chinese secrecy of not getting their equipment capabilities validated by neutral parties..... For e.g. You won't see Chinese fighter plane radars Antenna design ever as it will expose them very badly..... All you will see is badly blurred pictures. Chinese rely heavily on Russians and west for core high end technologies like rest of the world.
 
I can assume because of Chinese secrecy of not getting their equipment capabilities validated by neutral parties..... For e.g. You won't see Chinese fighter plane radars Antenna design ever as it will expose them very badly..... All you will see is badly blurred pictures. Chinese rely heavily on Russians and west for core high end technologies like rest of the world.
Check what India imports from China. In the top 10 items you will find computer equipment for medical purposes, engineering equipment for powerplants and electronics.

They are at the very least at par with global standards.